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Post# 548295   10/9/2011 at 14:18 (4,662 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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hello to all aw members,

My duet set are slowly starting to show signals of replacement after 8 years of use 2004 to 2011, time and the set i am planing to buy for my mom. And me if they show thats its time to replace them will be a rebadge whirlpool washer dryer set eather roper or estate the set in this picture to be precise and i have a few things that i would like to point if members have recomendations

1- no suggesting to go with a front load washer i went a good old fashion top load with agitator

2 no suggesting models with a lid lock as i went to be able to set the wash dial to a certain wash time.

Brands i am thinking of buying are

1-Inglis non lid lock model

2-estate (*rebadge whirlpool model in picture)

3- roper with matching dryer

4- huebesch model (ZWN432) with matching dryer if they are on sale and at a resnable price

5 amana washer dryer set

and also please note that every 2 months or twice a week i have to wash a pet bed and sometime may need to have clothes soak all night if stain thank you very much and all advice welcome.





Post# 548298 , Reply# 1   10/9/2011 at 14:42 (4,662 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Well not sure why you dont want another FL.

1.They take pet bedding more easily as you dont have to wrap it around an agitator.

2.FL's wash stains away without having to soak, pre treat and mess around if you use HOT/WARM cycles with POWDERED detergent which is better for machines. Dont see the point of having a washer if you have to soak things over night in gallons of water which is a huge waste.

3.TL's waste water and cost more to run.

4.A FL has a window so you can see without having the danger of bypassing lid switches.

5. modern fL's let you set times and can be more programmable to your needs than you may think.


Post# 548302 , Reply# 2   10/9/2011 at 15:03 (4,662 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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well not for me the reason i am going back to a top load washer is because they are on a second floor and there is the matter that its a small space if 1 of my family members have to wake up at night and the main reason i am going back to a top load is because i can set the temp knob to cold water and leave it there and me i use liquid detergents and mostly wash in cold water the only time i use hot water is when i wash bedding and that vary from 1 a week to once every 4 weeks and second i for one thing do not need models with water heaters or fancy cycles like sanitize or vice versa and there is also the danger of my cats getting in the washer and have more control using a top load washer and top load washers do not waste water depending on where the water level is set. and if you look at this picture this is where my set is located and that space is very small and because the washer water pipe stick out behind the washer the washer is not = to the dryer position. and need to have the option to stop the washer if i have to go out of the house for a few hours as i do not went to have the washer running when i am out.

Post# 548307 , Reply# 3   10/9/2011 at 15:45 (4,662 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
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the model i have been looking up as an engery comsumption of 272 kwh per year and including the fact that i wash in cold water in terms of saving its worth it and this is the second model that is on my list in my first post

Post# 548376 , Reply# 4   10/9/2011 at 22:05 (4,662 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

After 8 years why do these need to be replaced?  I've had my washer for close to 9 years and it works like new.... What replacement  signs are your units showing?  Maybe they could be repaired?  I dunno I look at washer/dryers on the market today and I can't find any that I would really want badly. Top or front.


Post# 548394 , Reply# 5   10/10/2011 at 00:06 (4,662 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I respect you opinion, but there are some facts you might know.

I always do cold washes in my washer and never had any problem with them... of course, door always ajar.

other reasons were posted above by aquarius1984.

Remember the new generation of american/canadian HE front loaders are much better than the first versions. They rinse MUCH better, save tousands of gallons of water every year and you can also pause the machine for long times (just hit the pause button) after some time the machine will shut off completelly. when you come back, just hit the start/pause button again to wake it up and resume the cycle from where it was.

Also, you can use both powders or liquids without having problems. BUT DON'T CLOSE THE DOOR COMPLETELLY BETWEEN WASH DAYS.

And the second floor issue... well... modern front loaders are now insignificant to the floor, they won't shake your house at all.

Watch cleamteamofNY's videos. He has an Electrolux Wavetouch. Maybe your opinions can change.

More than that, the spin speeds can be much higher, saving you lots of time and money in the dryer and they clean much better than front loaders because as is uses much less water, the detergent solution is more concentrated and mechanical action happens during all the time to 100% of the load, while in a top loader it deppends on rollover action.

Plus a pet bed in a top loader.. one side of it would be damaged (excess of rubbing against the agitator), maybe it would float and some parts won't wash and it's more prone to spin with a huge unbalance that could damage the machine or even make it walk.

$0,02


Post# 548418 , Reply# 6   10/10/2011 at 05:52 (4,662 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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well its the age for 1 thing and second there is the reason that for me in the space the washer dryer is the door of a front loader is in the way and there is the fact that for me du to my size its not practical for loading for 1 thing and the second thing thats also making me chose to go back to a top loading washer is i know that my clothes won't come out smelling like perfume as i am very sensitive to strong perfume smell if a sent is to strong i heart sneeze or get a headheach because of the detergent smell if they have a smell thats to strong and the pet bed that i wash is like a pillow case.

Post# 548434 , Reply# 7   10/10/2011 at 07:58 (4,661 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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and also the main reason i am going back to a top load washer is for these reason

1- a front load washer no longer fits my needs when i wash

2- a top load hides the plumbing pipes see my picture in my post number 548302 reply number 2

3 and finaly i do not need all these fancy cycles like sanitize allergen or a heater in my washer and there is the reason that for dose wondering why i prefer to op for a direct replacement rather than a repair is the last daily driver i had witch was a top load inglis superb 2 washer (whirlpool) had 2 repairs 1 in 1996 a motor change and around the year 2004 a few months before we had to replace it since it was already at the end of its life use a timer replacement and then by september it was the agitator so it was replace with the model in my post # 548302 i tryed but i never like it when it was replace i was looking at the price for a top load washer in 2004 and like i explain sometime i may have to soak some clothe that needs to be soak all night 24 hours and also the main reason i am going back to a top load model is because for me its easyer loading and unloading a top load washer than a front load model.


Post# 548442 , Reply# 8   10/10/2011 at 08:41 (4,661 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Ok... and can't you find in Canada any H-axis top loader? They save lots of space and still wash huge loads spending less water.

about the dependability, they will also last the same. If you want an excellent machine to last much more than moderns, you should get a vintage model

Not sure about the models you have there but... Probably the top loaders also have electronic boards and won't be the same as your previous top loader. If you're really lucky, it will last for 5 years.


Post# 548446 , Reply# 9   10/10/2011 at 08:55 (4,661 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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i rather buy new and for me the rebadge estate or roper brand rebadge whirlpools tends to fit my needs and i can get some conventinel top load that are set for low water usage like the amana brand washer dryer this set to be precise and here in canada the brand you are mententing i do not think they exist as well

Post# 548585 , Reply# 10   10/10/2011 at 21:10 (4,661 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

So if the machines fit your needs, go get them NOW!

Post# 548590 , Reply# 11   10/10/2011 at 21:19 (4,661 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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i am waiting until the ones i have breaks completly i am only in planining stage for when i do a spending budget witch might be in 2012 or if we decide to do some work in the bathroom but thank you for all the info but might first choice might be the estate set because my dryer is clearly startin g to show signs of failure like not drying proper so it might be soon i will keep everyone posted lol

Post# 548604 , Reply# 12   10/10/2011 at 22:00 (4,661 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

When was the last time you cleaned your dryer?

Maybe with some cleaning, you can give it a new life and postpone the replacement.


Post# 548607 , Reply# 13   10/10/2011 at 22:05 (4,661 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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its way to hard to clean the way its set and i do not have the requiered tools i might try using the time drye cycle that will disable the drying sensor since i always use the auto dry cycle and i think what shorten my dryer lifetime use is a couple of summers back that was around 2005 2006 there was a bird that entered the dryer vent and went inside my dryer so i think it kind of shorten the lifetime use of the dryer.

Post# 548608 , Reply# 14   10/10/2011 at 22:07 (4,661 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

I'm here wondering about the drying times...

How fast is the spin on these top loaders?
Maybe you could consider a spin dryer too. They are cheap, very useful as they can remove much more water from a load before you put it in the dryer and they are also very small so won't take space.

Think about it. I don't know what models are available in Canada or even if they are available, but i think they could help a lot.

These spin dryers are also very economical (only a few watts), very simple and easy to use and the load is ready in 2 or 3 minutes.


Post# 548616 , Reply# 15   10/10/2011 at 22:57 (4,661 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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i do not think that spins dryer are avalable in canada sadly but i do know that i set my dryer to high heat that shortens the drying time and even if the clothe are not fully dry i can finish the drying by hanging them on a clothe hanger

Post# 548617 , Reply# 16   10/10/2011 at 22:59 (4,661 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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but i do know that if i op for the huebech washer dryer set in ym list (canadian speed queen) that i would get a good spin speed but this depends on the price and the spending buget

Post# 548626 , Reply# 17   10/11/2011 at 00:35 (4,661 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Choose wisely

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Avoid any TL WP made set that does not have a fabric softner added switch. These machines only do a low water rinse which is the equivalent of a rinse in a severly overloaded machine(not very thorough and hard on clothes). The FS switch makes the machine rinse at the same level as wash. The Speed Queen machine is your best bet but you will have to adjust the water level switch as the Eco-Nazis and Green Police have regulated reasonable water out of them as well.

Post# 548644 , Reply# 18   10/11/2011 at 06:44 (4,661 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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that means that i would have a better choice in buying the amana model then?

Post# 548694 , Reply# 19   10/11/2011 at 15:18 (4,660 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
They are both good.

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Either the Huebsch/SQ or the Wp made Amana are fine choices.

Some things to consider are if you prefer Dual-Action or a 1 piece agitator. Porcelain on steel or stainless steel drum. Both the SQ belt drive and Wp direct drive mechanisms are very dependable.

All I meant on the SQ water level is that on 2010 and newer USA models the water stops filling about 5cm short of where it did on high level before the new regualtions. This can be adjusted on the pressure switch. On the Whirlpool/Amana the rinse will fill to a lower level than the wash unless the fabric softener switch is turned on. The Roper did not appear to have this feature so I belive it would always do a low level rinse.

Hope this helps.

Nick


Post# 548706 , Reply# 20   10/11/2011 at 16:37 (4,660 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you for the info and i have one question if a bird has entered the dryer vent and stayted there even when dead could this mess up the auto dry sensor or cause the dryer not to reach optimal drying temp? and i think that on my actual washer i did today a small load and then did a mainance cleanup on warm water only water no particular cleaning product because i had hand wash the soap dispenser just to rise it out fully even if i did it in the sink i check with my hand and the warm water seem dumb down and both water inlets are open = i think its just my set thats getting old do the reason that i am starting to plan there replacement.

Ps: the bird entered around 2005 2006 for anyones info during the summer.


Post# 548727 , Reply# 21   10/11/2011 at 18:29 (4,660 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Bird in the vent

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If the bird went in the vent and died you found your slow drying problem. If a bird died in the vent his remains are catching lint and the whole thing is plugged up. Your dryer isn't broke it just needs to breathe. As far as the sensor dry the sensor monitors the moisture in the laundry as it dries. After the clothes reach a certain dryness level the dryer runs for a predetermined number of minutes based on the dryness level you selected. Once this is completed the dryer cools down and shuts off. If the vent is clogged the alloted time for these 2 phases of the cycle may not be adequate due to lack of airflow.

As far as the washer goes if you felt the water before or during the heating phase of the cycle it would fell dumbed down as it has not yet heated to it's target temp. Once again I don't think it's broke just had not heated up yet.

Any other questions let me know.
Nick


Post# 548734 , Reply# 22   10/11/2011 at 18:47 (4,660 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thanks for the info and the particular washer model i have do not have a water heater as it do not have a sanitize cycle but the clothe staying abit damp happens 1% of the time but not always put for anyone 's info the replacement of the set on short term bases is plan and on long term it will depend if for exemple the bathroom is repainted and the color of the washer dryer thats kind of cream color no longer fits and that we need to replace them still with tl model that are white on white they will but i apreciate all the info.

Post# 548827 , Reply# 23   10/12/2011 at 02:17 (4,660 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Vey important information you gave us about this bird in you dryer's vent...

If you don't clean the vent, the new dryer won't work well too...

Make a simple test.

Your dryer is electric, right? remove the vent and run a cycle. Don't worry about it (a single cycle won't fill your house with lint).

If the cycle ends much faster, then you have a huge problem that has to be solved before thinking about a new dryer.

DO NOT DO THIS TEST IF YOUR DRYER IS GAS!!!!! Well, you can do also, but let all windows open and avoid staying next to the dryer during the cycle. Carbon monoxide is very dangerous and kills, but again, only a test load won't be the worst thing in the world, just don't forget to have all windows open.


Post# 548838 , Reply# 24   10/12/2011 at 05:41 (4,660 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Yes! Dryers that can "breathe" dry clothes pretty fast!

I can ALWAYS tell when I need to clean my vent! I wish I had a dryer that just was on an outside all and went STRAIGHT out, but that's not the case as mine goes straight up and out the roof. It's really amazing how you can look at your roof and get a ladder, climb up and get on the roof and you find yourself thinking, "this was a mistake", because the roof pitch is SOOO steep!

I actually have this long telescoping wand and I put a brush on the end of and stand on a ladder to clean the exhaust cap with that after I've used the lint eater from the inside up. The exhaust cap is at the very top of the roof and hard to get to unless you actually climb on the roof. It's amazing how much lint just sticks to the roof cap (even with no screen on there) Takes about 45 min's total and I have to do it twice per year.

Too bad so much lint escapes from dryers or this wouldn't be a problem.


Post# 548839 , Reply# 25   10/12/2011 at 05:45 (4,660 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

birds--not just dryer vents-but generator exhaust vents,too-any sort of vent opening in a house or building-birds will try to build their nests in them.Does the dryer vent above have a screened,flap type vent on the portion of the vent going to the outside of the building.the flap opens when dryer is going-but closes when its off.You will have to check the screen for lint.I had to do a similar thing for a generator exhaust pipe for a radio station transmitter building.One day I tested the generator-at first when it started-sounded strange-then the answer came flying out of the gen'e exhaust pipe--flaming remains of birds and bird nest!After that put a flap type valve cap ordered from Caterpillar-solved the problem.the flap would open-like the dryer vent flap-when the gen was running-but closed when it was off-amusing to watch the birds trying to peck their way into the gen's vent pipe.didn't want to cook anymore birds!If they managed to find their way thru the muffler and into the turbocharger turbine-could have been an EXPENSIVE genset repair!--or a burned down transmitter building!

Post# 548847 , Reply# 26   10/12/2011 at 06:58 (4,660 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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well when the bird came in i had the original dryer vent dating from 1983 but they where replace and at the bottom of the vent there a plastic grid to prevent birds from getting in now.

Post# 548848 , Reply# 27   10/12/2011 at 07:00 (4,660 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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its not in the vent it went inside the dryer because when i was close to the dryer i could hear it inside.

Post# 548900 , Reply# 28   10/12/2011 at 11:14 (4,659 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
VENTING GAS DRYERS INDOORS

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While it is not desirable to vent any dryer indoors, running a gas dryer without an outside vent should not cause a problem if the room is reassembly well ventilated. In many parts of the US an outside exhaust is not even required for gas dryers any more than it is required to have an outside exhaust for a gas range. Gas dryers only produce a fraction of the carbon monoxide that gas ranges do, so there is no short term danger in using it un-vented for testing purposes.


Post# 548906 , Reply# 29   10/12/2011 at 11:42 (4,659 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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but me in my case i will remain with an electric dryer and whne i buy my nex set i plan on paying for the installation as well and i think that for me the estate washer dryer set fits my need perfectly as i do not mind a low water level for the rinse as my washer is never over loaded and its very rare that i have to use a large setting the only time i would set it to ex large or large it would be for bedding other than that the water level would be set on med or small or ex small if only 1 item needs to be wash.

Post# 548914 , Reply# 30   10/12/2011 at 13:50 (4,659 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
here is the reason why i am chosing to go back to a top load

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Here is the reason why i am going back to a good old fashion top load washer:

Top-loading washers



• Removes more dirt on average in a normal cycle front load washer.



• Met generally less time to complete a normal cycle that front-loading washer.



• Rise in average a little more than a gentle cycle front load washer.



• Is generally less noise than a front-loading washer.



• is more ergonomic, due primarily to the position of openness and lack of clean seal.



• Takes up less space generally a deep front-loading washer.



In short ...



Overall, the efficient top-loading washers that Protect You have tested provided better performance than the front-loading machines.



They are the best choice if you are not or little delicate cycle.

and its very rare that i use the delicate gentle cycle i only use this cycle for washing curtains


Post# 549894 , Reply# 31   10/16/2011 at 23:10 (4,655 days old) by qualin (Canada)        
Front vs Top load

Hi Pierre.

To argue your points a bit:
• Removes more dirt on average in a normal cycle front load washer.

Well, I guess that depends on the load, but front loaders are better at getting sand out of clothes than a top loader, at least in my experience. I've also experienced slower turnover in a top loader than in a front loader.

• Met generally less time to complete a normal cycle that front-loading washer.

Depends on the cycle. The Speed Queen / Huebsch washers have a 44 minute wash cycle. (For regular, I think the Perm. Press cycle may be 5 minutes shorter) I have some friends which have an LG, if you set it on Sanitize with heavy soil, the entire cycle takes about 2.5 hours. (Yikes!)

• Is generally less noise than a front-loading washer.

Disagree with you there. One of the reasons why a top loader is quieter is because the spin isn't as fast. I believe most modern top loaders spin around 600-700 RPM, whereas the front loaders I saw do anywhere between 1000-1400 RPM. So, that's not a fair comparison. I have found that front-loaders are a little noisier when washing the clothes, but that's a good thing. The more splashing, sloshing and splooshing sounds, the more water is moving and thereby the more cleaning it's doing. Quietness has never really been a measure of cleaning performance for me. The big concern I think is spinning and it's not a fair comparison.

Asko makes a washer which spins the clothes at 2000 RPM. I would bet money that there wouldn't be a room in the house you wouldn't hear that. No need for that though. After all, dryers are designed to dry clothes.

• is more ergonomic, due primarily to the position of openness and lack of clean seal.

I agree that without pedestals, you have to stoop down to load and empty clothes. Pedestals fix that. A lot of front loaders these days come with the pedestals included or are extra for a rather modest cost.

I also agree that front loaders don't need a door seal. What I'm seeing though in European made washers is that the seal is actually on the door itself rather than between the door opening and the tub. I hope that more washer manufacturers finally realize this is the way to go and makes the machines much more hygenic.

I can see though how that is a considerable advantage.

Now, on the downside, for top loading washers to give you a good wash with lots of good turnover, you really need to think about your water bill. Do you mind living with the idea that your top loader uses 180 litres per wash instead of 50-something litres a front loader would use? If not, then yeah, go for it.

IMHO, you sound really eager to get rid of your current set and buy something else which you may like a lot better. What's stopping you?

Buy a Speed Queen / Huebsch set... you'll be happy with it. Top or front load!


Post# 550576 , Reply# 32   10/19/2011 at 22:10 (4,652 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you for the info but this will also depends on the price i am going to pay because so far the models that would fits my need are the estate washer dryer set by whirlpool the roper washer dryer by whirlpool (top load model for the washer) and the amana and inglis and it might be soon as usaly its like a chain and it would follow right after changing the water heater lol.

Post# 550692 , Reply# 33   10/20/2011 at 10:47 (4,651 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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You'd better hurry up, the Amana toploader has already disappeared from the American website. It might not take long before they are not available in Canada anymore.

Post# 550790 , Reply# 34   10/20/2011 at 15:35 (4,651 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you but i do not think that canada will be eliminating there toploaders because i know for a fact tha the inglis line of washers still makes and sell top load washers as inglis is made in canada but i am pretty sure that when i replace them when they brake there will still be topload washers for sale in canada.

Post# 550851 , Reply# 35   10/20/2011 at 20:10 (4,651 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WP DD WASHERS

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Don't count on it, there are already no full fill washers left.


Post# 550852 , Reply# 36   10/20/2011 at 20:14 (4,651 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Dream On...

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Eventually, everyone will be on the bandwagon. And I heard on the news last night that manufacturers will begin dropping the warranty on their machines to less than a year.

Ultimately making the purchaser buy an extended contract. They already make you buy your own hoses for goodness sake!

I feel like the mainstream manufacturers have lessened the quality of their TL machines. Probably trying to ween consumers away to expensive FL machines. Surely a conspiracy...

Malcolm


Post# 550859 , Reply# 37   10/20/2011 at 20:43 (4,651 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

That's why the used market is around.

Post# 550863 , Reply# 38   10/20/2011 at 20:58 (4,651 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Don't count on it, there are already no full fill washers left.
Perhaps not WP-family brands/models, but there's at least one other I know.


Post# 550869 , Reply# 39   10/20/2011 at 21:13 (4,651 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
for me and thats just in the long term i am thinking

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Maybe but me in if i think in the long terms its the question of budget and the question of space and the fact that both the washer dryer is near 2 bedrooms that is if my actual set broke tommorws morning(*long term senario here)and needed one fast its the question of budget and me the way i chose a washer is by evaluating my needs and cycle use and even if it would be a low level fill for a top load washer i do not mind if i compare this 8 cycle model washer thats close to the estate rebadge whirlpool and roper brand also by whirlpool an 8 cycle washer model (8 program for those that understand this term) or 16 cycle program model would fit my needs perfectly and there is the danger of my cats because i am afraid that a fl model would be a danger to my cats compare to a top load where they can not jump up.

Post# 550870 , Reply# 40   10/20/2011 at 21:14 (4,651 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
Pic 2 16 cycle model

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Here is the second picture

Post# 550896 , Reply# 41   10/20/2011 at 22:15 (4,651 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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Think I will chime in here.... I have used my friends 2004 Whirlpool Duet off and on since they were new. I never have liked them! The washer shakes the house on the final spin. The pump is loud. I don't care for the soap dispencer drawer. The gas dryer has never dryed the clothes completly. The cool down cycle is not long enough and the extended cool down is that on off thing. These Whirlpool dryers are know for the thermisters going out. I had to change it twice now. Both machines are installed properly.

 

Since I moved into an apartment complex last January.... my Maytag Neptunes have been in storage. When I first moved in I was using the coin laundry here in the apartment complex. It has a brand new G.E. TOP loading washer. It is horrible!! Sounds like a toy and does not clean clothes at all! I have to use twice as much soap in it since it is a TOP loader. So.......I have been going over to my friends house and using her Whirlpool Duets (even though I don't like them) since they do a much better job at cleaning than the TOP loader.  I really really miss my Maytag Neptunes. Nice and quiet,easy to use,dryer drys my clothes perfectly with a great cool down cycle. They fit nice,not bulky.  Maybe something newer/used might be worth looking at for you. Leave no stone unturned....


Post# 550898 , Reply# 42   10/20/2011 at 22:16 (4,651 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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My Maytag Neptues that I miss so much....


Post# 550901 , Reply# 43   10/20/2011 at 22:32 (4,651 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        
Explain..

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What are the physical "Signals" on your duet set, make you think replacing is needed??? Do not go into a long drawn-out lame explanation.

Post# 551188 , Reply# 44   10/22/2011 at 03:18 (4,650 days old) by qualin (Canada)        
Stop being neurotic about this!

Let me break down what you mentioned here in a reasonable, point by point explanation, because obviously you're not getting the answer you are looking for.

> its the question of budget and the question of space

My TOL GE washer set me back about $830 when I bought it back in 2004. The BOL (Bottom of the line) version was somewhere around $350. I don't regret purchasing it at all. Despite the extra money I had spent, I suspect that the $350 model probably would have cleaned my clothing just as well as the more expensive model.

If space is an issue, then perhaps a full sized laundry set isn't what you are looking for. You could look at a european-style washer/dryer instead, but they are pricey.

> if my actual set broke tommorws morning and needed one fast

Well, that's what laundromats are for. Seriously. But let me elaborate below.

> its the question of budget

If you compromise on the price, you will end up buying crap and you'll have to replace them again. Put aside some cash every month until budget is no longer an issue. If you save your pennies and put a bit aside every month, you can get a TOL machine which you won't regret purchasing.

> evaluating my needs and cycle use

Well, seriously... how often do you use cycles other than the normal / cottons cycle? I found that even though my TOL GE has Perm. Press, Handwash, Delicates, etc, I spend most of my time using the Cottons / Normal cycle. So, I didn't really need the extra features. However, being able to use the handwash cycle has come in handy every so often.

> low level fill for a top load washer

I've been seeing more and more top loaders like this. This is one good reason to move away from using a top loader. I don't see how they can clean your clothes.

> rebadge whirlpool and roper brand

Roper is downmarket Whirlpool. It's what contractors buy when they build houses. Inglis is just about the same quality as Roper. It's all made by Whirlpool. Why settle for less and buy a downmarket brand that you're not going to be happy with?

> 16 cycle program model

Do you really need that many cycles? Why? What kind of clothing do you wear? Seriously, how many cycles do you use on a regular basis?

> i am afraid that a fl model would be a danger to my cats compare to a top load
> where they can not jump up.

This is why you check the machine before you put laundry in it. You watch it from the time you put your clothes into it to the time you close the door and start it. I had a friend of mine who accidentally killed his cat because the cat lept into his "Front Load" dryer.

Jeez man, stop being so neurotic about this. If you want to replace your machines because you love to spend money and make Whirlpool that much richer, go right ahead, but you will never be happy with what you buy.

If you save up and spend a decent amount of your hard earned wages on an expensive machine, you'll be happy with it.

Ultimately, when it comes down to it, it's not the amount of cycles which determine what makes a machine good or not. It's just how well it cleans your clothes and how well it dries them. I don't think I can make that any more clear.

Let me put that last sentence into perspective. Before the automatic washer days, wringer washers had one cycle. On. That allowed people to get by just fine.


Post# 551253 , Reply# 45   10/22/2011 at 12:52 (4,649 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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8 cycles on the Inglis pictured above is misleading, nothing more than marketing.  It's actually only 3 cycles.  The marketing department gets 8 cycles out of it by considering each of the *marked wash times* on the dial as a separate cycle.

- NORMAL cycle has (1) Extra Heavy 18 mins, (2) Heavy 14 mins, (3) Regular 10 mins, (4) Light 6 mins

- PERMANENT PRESS cycle has (5) Regular 10 mins, (6) Light 6 mins

- GENTLE WASH cycle has (7) Regular 6 mins, (8) Light 4 mins

There's the (8) cycles, when it's really three cycles starting at longer or shorter wash times.

Also, this is a ONE SPEED machine.  All agitation and spin is at high speed.  GENTLE WASH gets so-called gentle action by intermittent agitation at high speed, which is not the same thing as a true low speed.


Post# 551293 , Reply# 46   10/22/2011 at 16:35 (4,649 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
I have nothing to explain about my choice on going back to a

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I have nothing to explain about my choice in going back to a top load washer and this is also my final post as well And 1 other thing you should know is washers today are meant to last 10 years so its normal that after 10 years of use that they are replace and i also find the washer i have for 1 thing very noisy when it drains And also when it comes to energy saving a top load washer do not need to heat the wash water as it wash even if they are not rated energy star this i do not mind and for me clothes that smells like detergent can make me sneeze or give me a headche and also i had to wash one of my shirts thats only hand washable i had to rely on doing 4 EXTRA SPINS just eliminate the excess water from my shirt for me that a proof that fl washers are a bad choice of washer for me and one of the main reason that when it breaks that i am going back to a top load washer and i hope my duet set breaks soon so that i can replace them with a top load washer with matching dryer during the current year. and sorry for shouting

Post# 551315 , Reply# 47   10/22/2011 at 19:45 (4,649 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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If you are so dissatisfied with your expensive Whirlpool FL machine, why would you replace it with the same brand machine?

Malcolm


Post# 551327 , Reply# 48   10/22/2011 at 21:39 (4,649 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
to answer your question

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To answer your question i am not disatified of the topload model of the brand i am only disatify with the front load model of the brand and for anyone wondering front load washer dryer sets are not made for me for the main reason that as a french canadian i am use to using shorter wash time like in the inglis washer model i posted for me a 10 minute wash or even 6 minutes is more than engough because longer wash time is not very good and for me a front load washer do not clean very good aspecaly when it comes to stain as they do not remove them and 1 other thing is sometime i can have only 1 shirt to wash so having to wait 45 minute to 1:04 minutes is just to long for me and i wash everyday and also for me in my case loading and undloading a fl washer is a bit harder because it force me to sit down and sometime i can have witch is very rare knee pains witch means that for me loading unloading the washer standing up is easyer.


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