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Post# 553376   11/1/2011 at 14:05 (4,421 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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Not sure if there is a reserve on this machine. If not, it could be a good deal.


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Post# 553379 , Reply# 1   11/1/2011 at 14:16 (4,421 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Malcolm. I was just looking at these. Going to put a watch on this on ebay for a day. Does this machine have the hot water boost? Also....does it put a fair amount of water in it, like at least up to the bottome of the door?

THanks so much


Post# 553398 , Reply# 2   11/1/2011 at 16:16 (4,421 days old) by appnut (TX)        
have the hot water boost

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Ray, no it does not!!!

Post# 553405 , Reply# 3   11/1/2011 at 17:01 (4,421 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Boosted Hot

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If this machine had the boosted hot option, I would have bid on it myself.

Funny, the cost difference is only 50 bucks.


Post# 553446 , Reply# 4   11/1/2011 at 18:41 (4,421 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

At 2.4 cu ft. capacity, it's quite small. I'm not sure that's such a great price.
Small capacity, no heater, uses not enough water.... no thanks.

Post# 553477 , Reply# 5   11/1/2011 at 20:38 (4,420 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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This is the best FL washer in the world made for home use bar none. It is a good deal at anything around $1300.00 if shipping cost is not considered. 

Post# 553522 , Reply# 6   11/2/2011 at 00:02 (4,420 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

DURNIT! Go bloody figure...

I just bought one of these .. Well, the Huebsch ZFN50R .. Set me back $1900. I don't believe they come with a heater option, it wasn't mentioned to me by the salesperson. Either that or they just didn't know. Can they be retrofitted with one?

It makes me wonder how much money I would have saved, having to deal with the extra shipping and the customs charges into Canada.

Post# 553565 , Reply# 7   11/2/2011 at 08:01 (4,420 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Guys. Thanks for the info on the temp boost.

How do you know which one has the temp boost though? Is it a certain model?

Thanks again.


Post# 553567 , Reply# 8   11/2/2011 at 08:13 (4,420 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I'm afraid Speed Queen stopped making the version with a heater. Some crap about energy saving I think?

Post# 553574 , Reply# 9   11/2/2011 at 09:04 (4,420 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

If your water heater is set high enough and you clear the line of cold water before starting the washer, lack of a heater should not be a problem. If you need really hot water, you could always fill the machine with hot water to heat up the tubs and then do a cancel/drain and then start it with the load.

Post# 553594 , Reply# 10   11/2/2011 at 10:58 (4,420 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Speed Queen Imperials

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I have the Speed Queen Imperial set. When I got them 2 years ago, I was concerned that results would suffer because no heating element to boost the hot water temp. After a few months, I realized that my laundry is just as clean as it was with the heater in the LG set I gave away.

Although I still have a mild fascination with the Boosted Hot machine, frankly, I am doing fine without it.


Post# 553605 , Reply# 11   11/2/2011 at 11:44 (4,420 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Malcolm. Thanks for the information. I am not that concerned with the Hot water Boost since my hot water is pretty hot and I can always adjust heater if I want. I can always use my AEG from 1991 if I want to do a boil wash.

My main concern is water level. How is that in comparison to the LG's?? I there a little more water in the Speed Queens?

Thanks again.


Post# 553608 , Reply# 12   11/2/2011 at 12:32 (4,420 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
More Water

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There is more water than in the LG's for sure. Plus the drum isn't tilted so the pool of water is even front to back.

Someone posted instructions a while back on how to raise the water level. I'll have to see if I can find them. Or maybe the original poster will chime in.


Post# 553610 , Reply# 13   11/2/2011 at 12:38 (4,420 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Water Level

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Here is the thread that talks about water level adjustment.



Post# 553800 , Reply# 14   11/3/2011 at 08:31 (4,419 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

While we cannot have them in this country, I think the ZUG at more than 3 times the price of the SQ could be considered a better home machine. Despite their smaller size, I think my Miele washing machines are probably better in most ways than this SQ, but they are not mass market machines either. That does not mean that the SQ is not a solidly built machine surpassing many in that aspect that cost more since it is built based on a design for a commercial machine, I think, and designed with a lot more simplicity & dependability in mind. Since I pick up parts each week, I know the parts distribution network for SQ products is well established in the United States, something I cannot say for some foreign brands.

As for the SQ drum not being large enough, a large size drum is not all that matters in a front loader and can be a distinct disadvantage. Smaller drums make for quicker and more even distribution of the load for spinning. Buying a machine based on its ability to wash large comforters, unless you do that weekly in which case I would consider duvet covers, does not guarantee that average loads will quickly distribute evenly for spins. Unless you are washing for a large family, which many are not, you do not need a huge drum in a front loader. Putting such a large drum in a moderately sized cabinet also makes necessary all of that jiggy sensor business that demands an almost perfectly balanced load before spinning will take place. The other thing about at least some of those machines (like the Duet) with the huge drum is that they have miniscule clearances between the drum and the outer tub coupled with such puny pumps and more stupid sensors that even when a load distributed and started to spin, the circuitry allowed the speed to ramp up too quickly and the amount of water thrown off by the load tripped flood sensors because the pump could not carry away the water. My W1986 Miele, which only cost about $500 more than a TOL Duet has very sophisticated motor speed control. It measures the increase in drum speed against the resistance posed by the water being spun into the outer tub and does not allow the speed to increase until it senses that the excess water has been drained. If suds prevent a spin from taking place, the machine resets to an additional deep rinse which takes care of the problem. I will admit that my standards of front loader performance have been spoiled by the no-nonsense performance of post 1960 Westinghouse front loaders. They had powerful pumps and adequate, recessed sumps that combined to pump out water fast enough to require that the drain hose be secured in the tub or standpipe because the force of the water would send it flying. With one motor running the tub and the pump, there was no stopping to pump out water being spun from the load and no need for it either. Getting through the cycle without delays caused by the machine alternately starting and stoping without making progress is a sign of a well-engineered machine and some of these super large size drum machines are not well-engineered.


Post# 553823 , Reply# 15   11/3/2011 at 10:39 (4,419 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Malcolm. So you can adjust the water level on the front loader? I thought that was just for the top loader, but I may be wrong. If that is so, can you post here or send to my email?

Thanks so much for your help.


PS: Did you adjust the water level in your machine?

Post# 553828 , Reply# 16   11/3/2011 at 10:58 (4,419 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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When I was looking for a new machine, I looked specifically at the SQ FL machines.  I liked them because you could get front or back controls, so it wouldn't look dorkey next to a standard dryer.   Metal outer tub, SS drum. Overall simplicity of the machine.


I disliked them because of their capacity, No hot water boost (without special order in our location) and water usage was set at 13 gallon fill regardless of the load, no smart fill.   So you used 13 gallons of water if you were washing your comforter or a pair of lace undergarments.   Then there was the price.  I got my Maytag 5000 Professional Series Washer/Dryer and pedistals for what the SQ washer alone would have cost.




Post# 553931 , Reply# 17   11/3/2011 at 17:03 (4,419 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Water Usage

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The water level is fixed in most machines. It fills to a preset level and only adds more for absorption. 13 gal is the minimum based on no absorption.

The SQ machines aren't for everyone. Bling is minimal to nonexistant. I liked the SQ machine because it is so simple and the integrated paddles in the drum are deep and really agitate the water. Plus, they are built to be serviced and not discarded.

To each his own though.


Post# 553967 , Reply# 18   11/3/2011 at 20:00 (4,418 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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Yes Malcolm is absolutely correct the SQ FLers do vary the water fill according to the amount of clothing that is in the load. On my SQ FL washer the water consumption more than doubles when I wash a large load of towels.

Post# 553999 , Reply# 19   11/4/2011 at 06:04 (4,418 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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I see someone has placed a bid on the machine above. Doesn't appear that there is a reserve on this auction.


Post# 554002 , Reply# 20   11/4/2011 at 06:12 (4,418 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

For me, buying a SQ/Huebsch wasn't about bling. I have to admit that having special cycles would be nice, what was paramount to me was reliability and serviceability, Like Mr. Mrb627 was saying.

The local appliance shop I bought it from mentioned that they service these exact kinds of washers in high use areas like Hotels, Inns and Condominium Common Areas. If it's designed for that, I wanted one. :) After all, between me and my wife, there's no way we're going to wear that machine out before I'm a senior citizen!

To answer TomTurbomatic's response...

I thought about buying a European Style Washer, but the only candidate for the job was the Asko Integrated series. (Known in Sweden as Cylinda) Mainly because it had a steel inner and outer tub. However, that proved to be a very expensive proposition, not to mention having an electrician wire up a separate 230 volt outlet. (Yes, they make a 60 hz model, I checked.) However, the 1.74 cu.ft tub really didn't appeal to me.

V-Zug machines are unheard of here in Canada. I think if they wanted to sell machines here, they'd have to sell a large range of models from the 1.75 cu.ft all the way up to massive 4.0 cu.ft machines to stay competitive. Especially with Meile already in the market here with 4.0 cu.ft machines!

If V-Zug made a machine for Canadians and was around 3.0-4.0 cu.ft, I would have considered it, but asking $4k Canadian is a bit much.

$1900 was nearly right at the top of my budget for a washer. Meile offered their 4.0 cu.ft machine at about $200 more, but I didn't see the value, especially considering theirs has what looks like a plastic outer tub. Unfortunately, I think I nearly caused a flamewar bringing that up. :-(

Post# 554006 , Reply# 21   11/4/2011 at 06:44 (4,418 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The Mieles I was discussing were my W1918 and W1986, both of which have double stainless tubs, are no longer in production, operate on 230 volts and offer wash temps from cold to 190F. The new Mieles with the plastic tubs are the larger ones that operate on 115 volts where the plastic outer tub performs an insulating function since it does not have 230 volt water heating capability, although my Creda which operates on 230 and will heat to 200F has a plastic outer tub and has proven very durable. As I said, the 230 volt Mieles are not mass market machines. My post was in response to the statement that the SQ was the finest domestic washer in the world. I realize the Zugs are not available here, but they are elsewhere and they are much more sophisticated machines than even the Mieles so I had to refute the statement that the SQ was the finest domestic washer in the world.

You bought a very good washer.

Post# 554013 , Reply# 22   11/4/2011 at 07:29 (4,418 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Malcolm

What do you mean by Bling is minimal to non existant?



Post# 554076 , Reply# 23   11/4/2011 at 12:16 (4,418 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I think if you look at the very, very plain control panel and contrast it with the controls of other brands with displays and readouts, prompts, options and messages you will understand the lack of bling. I don't even think this machine has a bell, much less a whistle.

Post# 554092 , Reply# 24   11/4/2011 at 14:04 (4,418 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        

Hi Tom Thats what I thougt it was . lol



Post# 554115 , Reply# 25   11/4/2011 at 16:09 (4,418 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
SQ Front Loaders = Laundromat/Commercial Washers

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Once you wrap your head around that fact and act accordingly you'll understand SQ front loaders. If one can live with those limitations of design and or that is up your street, then have at it.

However as with laundromat washers you'll need a good supply of *HOT* water to reach the machine if that is the temp desired. Commercial laundries often have recirculation pumps on their hot water feed lines to keep things moving. Homeowners will probably have to resort to the old "dishwasher' trick of running a nearby tap to purge the line first.

Post# 554116 , Reply# 26   11/4/2011 at 16:10 (4,418 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
$750 & Free Shipping

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Not bad for a new SQ front loader. Someone is best pleased.

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