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Thread Number: 37235
new belt drive whirlpools/kenmores/ amana's |
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| Post# 553710 11/2/2011 at 19:41 (4,420 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago ) | ||
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hey what do you guys think about these new beltdrive wp ne good what are your experiences with them??? and do you get any problems with them there dont seem to be much posts on these or how they run per say | ||
Post# 553716 , Reply# 1 11/2/2011 at 20:35 (4,419 days old) by Pulsator  (Saint Joseph, MI) |
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I have one and I do like it despite a few drawbacks...
-The lid lock- annoying but relatively easily defeated -The fill flume- EXTREMELY slow. It takes a good 7-10 minutes to fill for a large load depending on the temperature. -The temp selector- cold is well, cold, shocker. Warm is 85F, my definition of cool and hot is 110F, not hot enough. -The cycle times are excruciatingly long for a TL washer. A standard normal cycle with one fabric softener rinse takes over an hour. Mainly due to fill times, sensing, shifting to and from agitate and spin, and the stupid brake-less tub taking FOREVER to coast to a stop. It also does this annoying thing where it spins on low speed for several minutes then coasts to a complete stop and then spins again on high speed for several more minutes. On the plus side, the wash action is very thorough and gentle, the clothes come out quite dry from the spin, and it's pretty to look at! Here are two short vids I took of my machine running. | ||
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Post# 553736 , Reply# 3 11/2/2011 at 22:49 (4,419 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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NEW BD WP BUILT WASHERS | ||
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Post# 553742 , Reply# 5 11/2/2011 at 23:56 (4,419 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Good videos, Jamie.
I have a good friend that bought a Maytag version of this washer a year or so ago, replacing a 1996 Hotpoint washer. He loves it. Sounds a bit different and takes longer, but for someone who just wants wet clothes stuck to the sides of the huge tub when he opens the lid, it's perfect. | ||
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Post# 553796 , Reply# 7 11/3/2011 at 08:02 (4,419 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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APPLIANCE CONTROL RELILABLITY I was merely putting this question out there, no one here including me can diffidently answer it. We replace boards and panels every day on washer, dryers, dishwashers and ovens, but twenty years the customer parts shelves were filled timers, selector switches and thromostats waiting to be installed. Years ago there were many washers and DWs that had nearly a 100% chance of needing a new timer in its 10 - 15 year average life span. And it is definitely true that appliance makers do not use the highest quality electronics as they as always are trying to keep cost of building down to the minimum, but thats nothing new. | ||
| Post# 553804 , Reply# 8 11/3/2011 at 09:11 (4,419 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
My coment on this washer
Well here is my coment on this washer and my toughs since when my actual set breaks i think that companys like whirlpool kenmore maytag if they went to keep up on the market should stick to making washers where we can turn the dial to the wash time we need like this model and also i might be 1 that wash in cold water and warm water bed sheets when not sick and 1% of the time hot water when sick and need to kill the germs from a cold put at least a TRUE WARM WATER WASH TEMP AND A FULL HOT WATER WASH TEMP when its needed (sorry fir using all caps for this part)and also put a decent fill and skip all this sensing part as well as putting a full spin well this is my 2 cents in this thread. and also for top loaders bring back a true warm rinse temp.
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Post# 553807 , Reply# 9 11/3/2011 at 09:22 (4,419 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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I have mixed feelings about electronics in appliances
In some cases, electronics allow functions that a mechanical timer could not perform on its own. Machines that "think" may offer interesting cycle variations, etc. but in 2003 when I got my GE Spectra range (it came with the new house) I repeatedly asked myself "And why do I need this keypad vs. the function knob and temp dial that was on my 1990 GE?". The jury is still deliberating on that one. I would presume that at some point the board will fry in my current GE and I'll be faced with replacing the unit or paying a ransom for a new board - things which never would have happened to the 1990 range.
That said, John is right - timers go bad too. In fact, both my 1980 built Kenmore washers that are installed right now did timer related things last weekend that tell me dead spots are developing. In one, the motor briefly turned off then back on as the timer was advancing during spin. This is VERY common in Mallory timers used in WP washers from the 1970s and 1980s. The other machine, also with a Mallory timer, actually shut off in between increment advances, also in spin. It was funny because I noticed a certain early silence in the garage, went out to investigate, and the machine turned back on as I was about 12 feet away from it, almost as if it thought to itself "oh crap, here he comes, I'd better get with it!". My point is that yes, electronics aren't perfect. I fail to see why they're necessary sometimes, and they cause premature replacement of appliances (and thus cause waste). But, what they replaced wasn't perfect either, not at least when it came to timers and other controls in appliances. I'm not sure about movie projectors.... Gordon | ||
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Post# 553808 , Reply# 10 11/3/2011 at 09:27 (4,419 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Pierre -
Warm rinses are gone. Energy guide regulations won't allow them in the U.S., maybe not in Canada either. If you want that Estate washer with an electro-mechanical timer, you may want to get one in the next few months - their days are very numbered. That's why I want a new Speed Queen, just to have one of the last of a very long lived breed. Gordon | ||
| Post# 553813 , Reply# 12 11/3/2011 at 10:21 (4,419 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Supposedly...
the electronic boards are cheaper to manufacture. Whether or not that is true surely isn't evident to the consumer when they are charged a king's ransom for a replacement.
Although, I think the only manufacturer that doesn't overprice the spare parts is Fisher and Paykel. Their pricing seems to be quite reasonable from a consumer standpoint. Malcolm | ||
| Post# 553846 , Reply# 13 11/3/2011 at 12:48 (4,419 days old) by KenmoreBD (Mass, usa ) | ||
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Also I have a timer on DD lock up before, that was a pain. The only thing I hate is the fact that electronics have been known to have issues with steam. You would think someone would have pointed this out to the big wigs. -andrew | ||
| Post# 554454 , Reply# 16 11/6/2011 at 06:42 (4,416 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC) | ||
Pierre, Pierre....
Your posts are so entertaining :). Since you want features that are now rare, en mass, why not buy a rebuilt TL? It will have true HOT and WARM options that you are always quick to reply your next machine should have. Locally I know of several businessmen that rebuild these from the early 90's and later (depending on age and features) for btw $150 and $250...and, this is my only post...LOL
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