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| Post# 47816 10/25/2004 at 23:37 (7,115 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
Okay guys, they're home! First question..what's the "PUSH" button do? No mention of it in the under-lid instructions. We cleaned 'em up and applied power. Neither dial lights up, so either the bulbs are burnt out, or (after a first glance) the low end didn't get lamps? As far as the dryer goes, it spins with gusto, but it's gas (wish it were electric) so I couldn't check on the heat output. I heard that conversion kits use to exist for gas/electric conversions; true? Only thing the dryer will need is a timer, the dial never moved. The washer- didn't get water hooked up to it yet, but we were able to get it to pulse at one dial setting, and spin with two different speeds at other settings. I think I may have a little electrical work to do to make sure the water valves are opening. Beautiful enamel and neat controls : ) 
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| Post# 47817 , Reply# 1 10/25/2004 at 23:38 (7,115 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
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| Post# 47818 , Reply# 2 10/25/2004 at 23:39 (7,115 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
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| Post# 47822 , Reply# 3 10/25/2004 at 23:47 (7,115 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR) | ||
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Post# 47825 , Reply# 4 10/25/2004 at 23:54 (7,115 days old) by gansky1  (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Beautiful set - congrats on the great find! Your "Push" button is for the motor overload protector. This dryer is going to be dedicated to gas use only but if you don't have gas to your house, you can probably convert it to LP gas input and use it with bottled gas from the grocery store like a grill. There should be a pull down latch for the top panel of the dryer - that's where the gas valve, pilot & burner are. Have fun !! | ||
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Post# 47826 , Reply# 5 10/25/2004 at 23:57 (7,115 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 47839 , Reply# 7 10/26/2004 at 08:36 (7,114 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Hi Cory, that's a wonderful find, congratulations and thanks for the great pictures! Yes the wash tub remains stationary during wash and rinse otherwise it would throw water out and down the drain. There is no way to convert the dryer to electric. Let us know if we can help with advice for the restoration. | ||
| Post# 47844 , Reply# 8 10/26/2004 at 09:22 (7,114 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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Post# 47845 , Reply# 9 10/26/2004 at 10:39 (7,114 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 47846 , Reply# 10 10/26/2004 at 10:47 (7,114 days old) by golittlesport (California) | ||
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| Post# 47879 , Reply# 11 10/26/2004 at 21:10 (7,114 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
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It's a Multimatic-
Took a peek underneath and sure enough, two belts- Multimatic, did these normally have a jet cone like this? Or did these come along with the Rollermatics? Great news, it works too! Both water valves function for both wash and rinse temps and it makes it all the way around the dial. I did the first load, some towels, and the thing almost walked across the floor at the start of the spindry until I rebalanced them, would this be a sign of weak suspension components or is this typical? And the only problem with the dryer is that the pointer never moves, but the timer motor runs, guess that's why they ditched the set. I really cleaned that unit up and the controls are just mint! Thanks a lot guys for all the compliments! Neat stuff : ) 
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| Post# 47880 , Reply# 12 10/26/2004 at 21:15 (7,114 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
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Post# 47888 , Reply# 13 10/26/2004 at 21:43 (7,114 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 47897 , Reply# 14 10/26/2004 at 23:49 (7,114 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 47915 , Reply# 15 10/27/2004 at 09:21 (7,113 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Really cool to see that console again! Mom had the Imperial with that console---a double set of push buttons as I recall. Mom's had the 3-ring agitator with the hard plastic twist-on cap (that we never put back on!). What a great find! Hope you have fun! -Steve | ||
| Post# 47921 , Reply# 16 10/27/2004 at 12:56 (7,113 days old) by davenp () | ||
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AMAZING!!! Totally AMAZING SET! I'm very jealous :) What are the three knobs in the middle for? I assume temp and load size maybe? Forgive the newbie here, never seen one of these before :) Dave | ||
| Post# 47932 , Reply# 18 10/27/2004 at 17:45 (7,113 days old) by drmitch () | ||
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Beautiful set Cory, the suds look good. Any clothes in it yet? You should be very proud of these! The radarranges would look good sitting next to these also! Enjoy! | ||
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Post# 48153 , Reply# 20 10/29/2004 at 22:46 (7,111 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Beautiful pre August 1964
Cadman you washer is made before August 1964.I am pretty sure of my research so far that it was during August when everyone was on vacation the plant shut down and they converted the manufacturing machines over to Roller Matic production. My 1964 was made in late August 1964 and it is one of the first Roller Matic washers. The Jetcone was introduced for the whole 1964 line up so that is probably an original agitator. You will be able to tell a conversion from a factory this way: When removing the Jetcone there will only be 1 nut and a plastic disk holding the Jetcone down on the shaft. By late, very late 1964 or early 1965 they increased the size of that agitator nut to accomodate a second nut inside it that held down the pulsator directly. Later machines and conversions always have two nuts holding the Jetcone to the shaft. The reason was Frigidaire soon discovered one nut was not enough to prevent a brand new problem with the Jetcone -- that was Cone Hop! On the older style after a time the middle cone (light blue) would slowly chip away at the upper (dark blue) cone and then it would slam back and forth on wash. A VERY loud noise--- unmistakeable believe me! Before they had a fix Frigidaire created a quick field fix. They produced a small kit that contained a rubber gasket that could be inserted in between the two cones to stop the noise and it would hold maybe a year before Cone Hop reappeared but by then they had created the 2 nut system. The 1964 has styling details on the panel ends that are unique to that year alone! No other Frigidaire ever had them! They have embossed speed lines on the end caps of the backsplash! Enjoy cadman!!! Hey Send me your serial number so we can compare them! Cheers Jetcone | ||
| Post# 48158 , Reply# 21 10/29/2004 at 23:38 (7,111 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA) | ||
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Jetcone, Wow, Impressive! Just last night while polishing the machine up I was admiring those endcap speed lines thinking they looked very distinctive. I just went down and had a look at the metal tag on the rear. In the silver box where I'd expect a serial number there's absolutely nothing printed; is this the spot to check? Next I took a peak under the bleach cup and noted what appeared to be a single nut looking almost like it was part of the tapered assembly directly below it. I didn't have my long extension to see if I could budge it. With the conversion, was the second nut hidden below the tapered cone covering it? This is interesting... : ) | ||
| Post# 48159 , Reply# 22 10/29/2004 at 23:59 (7,111 days old) by agiflow-action () | ||
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True beauties Nice machines is an understatement.I like the control panels of this particular era of Frigidaire machines. These models i am guessing are the precursor to the upswept porcelain tops Frigidaire would use until 1970. | ||
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Post# 48185 , Reply# 24 10/30/2004 at 15:33 (7,110 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Cadman Nut Warning!!
The nut you are seeing is the one holding the whole assembly down. This is important. If you don't need to remove it then don't. All these 1960's Frigidaires had an achilles heel with that nut wether they were original or conversions. The problem is water and soap scale work their way up underneath and seize that nut on the agitate shaft. If you don't soak it with rust penetrant for days and days or you don't heat it hot somehow then when you go to remove it the agitate shaft will turn with the nut and break the special bearing down at the bottom of the transmission. RESULT you are throwing away the whole transmission. If yours is the Multimatic then those have very strong bearings unlike the Roller-matics and you will probably not have this problem. You can tell what you've got easily just by looking so "if it aint broke dont fix it". The original nut goes straight down to a large flange which covers the inside bottom below the bleach cup. The new nut does the same except it bells way out before the flange because like you guessed the second nut is buried inside that big nut you see under the bleach cup. So if you look at the hex head and then past down the hex to the flange and the nut doesn't bell out then you have an orignal Jetcone agitator. Also on the agitator the original Jetcones had slits for the recirculation on the upper cone. The conversions all had huge 1 inch openings to create the "jet" action at the overflow rinse. I just looked at your Jetcone and it is the replacment so I am guessing your machine developed Cone Hop early in its life and the whole thing was replaced. SO I will wager you will see a bell shaped nut down under your bleach cup. Cheers jon jon | ||
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Post# 48190 , Reply# 27 10/30/2004 at 15:59 (7,110 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Correction to last post! Third sentence begins with "I have more than---"(wishful thinking!) should read I HAD more than----"! -Steve | ||
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Post# 48222 , Reply# 28 10/31/2004 at 05:50 (7,109 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Oh Steve don't tell me that
That Infinite control machine was a WXL model. NO ONE has ever seen one in the club except you. I have only seen the tech manual so I thought the machine was a prototype and never produced. Oh if you only had it now what a rare machine!!! The WXL used a Hall effect sensor to sense the speed of the unit. The operator controlled the speed by turning the verticle control which actually controlled a magnetic clutch on the tranny. Stronger magnet faster wash etc. That Hall effect sensor was eventually used on GM's early electronic ignition systems to sense the speed of the engine from the shaft of the distributor. If I remember correctly on the WXL the sensor was used to maintain the speed dialed in by the operator so that the machine ran steady. Its been along time since I read that manual. I also think the High Top cabinet models had these infinite control units in them. What I would give for one of those machines I have kept my eye peeled for 25 years for one and have never even seen parts for one. I think they were only produced in late 68 or 1969 then Frigidaire switched to the 1-18 platform in 1970. Do you have any pictures of her??? jet That had to be the rarest Frigidaire ever made is there any chance you could get it back?? | ||
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Post# 48236 , Reply# 30 10/31/2004 at 08:51 (7,109 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 48307 , Reply# 31 10/31/2004 at 23:42 (7,109 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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WXN - 1968
There is a mechanism for that machine out in the shed that Peter and I brought back from the SD farm trip two years ago...never played with it though, I guess you could install it in a rapidry cabinet and rig up a switch for it. I might be the closest anyone ever gets to having one again. Never seen the cabinet washer but Don S. and I saw a cabinet dryer while out hunting last year. It was in a shop and being used as a storage cabinet and TV stand. | ||
| Post# 48446 , Reply# 33 11/3/2004 at 06:26 (7,106 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
I had a WXL model in Baltimore at my cousin's house in Dundalk.The main problem was the cluth kept going bad.It also had a built in liquid detergent and liquid fabric softner dispenser on the left side of the control panel.The speed for agitation could be "tuned in" from soak or 0 PPM to about 330 PPM.The speed for spin could be "tuned in"from a slow 75 RPM to a whopping 1,010 RPM BKA Rapidry.The washer had a see through window lid and automatic electronic dispensers for liquid detergent and fabric softner located on the left side of the illuminated control panel.There was also a WXP model (HIGH FASSION) that had the same features but added a cabinet above the washer and matching dryer(DXP)I had the dryer for a few yrars and loved the design.The FRIGIDAIRE emblem on the agitator of these models was silver (aluminium).Chuck
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