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Vive la France! One of the most beautiful DW of all times!
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Post# 569027   1/14/2012 at 16:30 (4,485 days old) by whirlpolf ()        

Hey guys, look what our French friends have digged up! This dishwasher is more than I've ever come across in Europe or with the US machines or with whatever!
Tinted smoked glass front an chromed control panel! Can it be any spacier than this! Hello Jetson family!
Wow!
Have fun: A "Lincoln Grand Standing"! J'en suis fou! J'en veux une! ;-)

And probably a good companion to the black control tower Frigidaires, I guess.

Enjoy!
Joe


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Post# 569032 , Reply# 1   1/14/2012 at 17:07 (4,485 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Very goodlooking machine! I like the styling of the control panel. It looks like a very modern machine for that time with the upper spray arm getting water from the back. I bet it is noisy though!

Post# 569038 , Reply# 2   1/14/2012 at 17:36 (4,485 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
Kitchenaid Wanna-be Maybe?

What year is this machine from? Seems to have the same door latching system as the Hobart designed Kitchenaids of yore!

Now lest we forget, K/A's built in Europe had many of the same desiogn features as the American made machines but came with Stainless Steel tanks and water softeners and a few other goodies. This may have been a design used in France before or maybe after the Whirlpool sale. Or maybe a licensed use of the designs?

Just speculation on my part.


Post# 569117 , Reply# 3   1/15/2012 at 03:07 (4,485 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I don't think there is a link between this machine and the European KitchenAid. Here are a few KitchenAid pictures for comparison.

Post# 569118 , Reply# 4   1/15/2012 at 03:07 (4,485 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Post# 569146 , Reply# 5   1/15/2012 at 04:35 (4,485 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

My guess is that it was a totally separate and autonomous company at the time!
Anyway what a futuristic styling! :)


Post# 569151 , Reply# 6   1/15/2012 at 04:48 (4,485 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        
Yeah, it looks okay, but...

...it's not that I want to rain on anyone's parade, but I will anyway. The dishwasher looks good on the outside only to hide an ordinary interior and an even less extraordinary filtration system.

Post# 569153 , Reply# 7   1/15/2012 at 05:31 (4,485 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I don't think the interior is very ordinary with two fully usable racks, an upper rack that is quite peculiar with the right side totally different from the left side. The left side of the upper rack has a removable part, which is rather unique for that time. And I love the front row of tines in the bottom rack.

I can't tell from one picture if that is a good or a bad filter system.


Post# 569173 , Reply# 8   1/15/2012 at 08:01 (4,485 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        

On closer inspection the ueber basket is pretty big and unique and much more interesting than the lower basket. The filtration system looks typical for what was standard fare in Europe. No grinder or self-cleaning filter anywhere to be found in that machine. Put a Schwarzwaelder Kirschtorte in that dishwasher and you'll be picking out bits and pieces for the next couple of months.

Now, compare this French number to the 1973 Kitchen Aid dishwasher - the Kitchen Aid wins hands down in design, function and performance (in my very biased and unwavering opinion). Black glass and chrome look good as long as nobody touches it. If placed in a real household with busy little hands and whatnot, an appliance like that wouldn't look all that shiny for very long.

Like I was saying before - I don't want to rain on any parades here and for French people this may well have been the most beautiful dishwasher ever, but I'm not French.


Post# 569195 , Reply# 9   1/15/2012 at 09:57 (4,485 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Oh and btw, that dishwasher reminds me of this oven! :) All steel and glass too but born some 40 years later!

About the filter, it's pretty standard, many modern machine have an assembly like that, you simply clean it once or twice per season if not pre-rinsing!


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Post# 569317 , Reply# 10   1/15/2012 at 16:47 (4,484 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
yes, I was thinking the same

the door latch looks "Kitchen Aid-ish" to me, but the brand Kitchen Aid has never been sold here apart from their famous food mixer. All dishwashers were called Hobart and mainly sold as commercial machines. Yet I tend to think the "Lincoln" brand in France was supposed to give the machine some "transatlantic" and "pro home automation" American taste.

No self-cleaning filters? No food grinder? Alas, flushing food waste down the drain is prohibited in most European countries: I would love to install a waste disposal but if they check the sewers again (and I tell you, they DO, I've been watching them more than once) I might be liable to the cleaning-up costs plus some (up to) 1200,- € penalty. (Which is ridiculous to me as anyone is flushing bad food waste down the toilet, I don't know a single person who has not ever done this). Authorities claim "the waste water plants are not constructed in a way to handle that extra organic waste" (bla, if you ask me).

Odd to me is the porcelain coated interior of that machine. The only strange and even more odd DW interiors were plastic instead of stainless steel. (late 60s, nowadays they are all steel).

Yet the outer design (steel, chrome and black glass) that is so tempting and yes Gabriele, our kitchen ranges of today= the do have this sleek look.

Once I've watched a Kitchen Aid DW here in Germany (an imported model) but I was shocked by the sheer weight of the lower spray arm, it was cast aluminium. Accordingly the pressure of the pump must have been tremendous, it was able to smash the more fragile sorts of glasses. This made me rethink KA machines as "good" by all means, I might find them "good for tough stuff" though.

Of course, times have changed since and I would not trust that old Lincoln machine either.
But doesn't it look nice? Hello Mama Jetson ;-)



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