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Post# 604957   6/20/2012 at 07:20 (4,327 days old) by paulinroyton (B)   |   | |
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Post# 604960 , Reply# 1   6/20/2012 at 07:22 (4,327 days old) by paulinroyton (B)   |   | |
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Post# 604980 , Reply# 11   6/20/2012 at 08:08 (4,327 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Thanks for taking tge time to scan and post this report - we are doing well for UK reference works today, and some machines that woudl be lost to posterity. Some quick points after my first read through: £112 - GEC. WHAT £112 GEC???? The only reference to a GEC washer I ever saw previously was a twinnie in 1960. So, could it be a variation of the Hotpoint? or the EE? Or something else entirely? Curious that EE stil had not got that hot water filling business sorted out, it had been like that since the first model in 1960. That Stokvis looks like it has an interesting control panel. I have an Ideal Home article from 1968 (I have previously posted it on here) which shows a Philips full size H axis washer - I wonder was that a successor to this one? This must have almost been the last gasp of the Parnall Spinwasher. It such a shame that this model range did not continue. It is curious that the semi-auto version tested the previous year had a substantially cheaper list price (from memory it was about £85) which put it very much on a par with the top end twinnies like HMDL, Supertwin & Supermatic. I presume that the mechanicals would have been much the same for both machines and I would not have thought the electronics and associated equipment to make it fully automatic would have made such a difference (it does not seem like much now but it is more than 40% difference if I have my sums right). It appears that the Parnall models were the only British auto (or semi auto) washer to have a suds saving facility although the operation was very different to that of the US machines. A great lunch time read :) Al |
Post# 604982 , Reply# 12   6/20/2012 at 08:37 (4,327 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 604985 , Reply# 13   6/20/2012 at 09:27 (4,327 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 604990 , Reply# 14   6/20/2012 at 09:43 (4,327 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 605031 , Reply# 15   6/20/2012 at 13:32 (4,327 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 605042 , Reply# 16   6/20/2012 at 14:09 (4,327 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Post# 605045 , Reply# 17   6/20/2012 at 14:22 (4,327 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 605072 , Reply# 18   6/20/2012 at 16:17 (4,327 days old) by turnamat (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 605198 , Reply# 20   6/21/2012 at 03:53 (4,326 days old) by paulinroyton (B)   |   | |
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I have never heard to a Stokvis washer, and I thought Bendix machine where made in Italy. The Bendix LA is made in the uk. Would love to find some of these vintage machines. Paul |
Post# 605214 , Reply# 22   6/21/2012 at 05:51 (4,326 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 605248 , Reply# 23   6/21/2012 at 09:04 (4,326 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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As noted in the other thread, you are just wonderful for keeping track of these things Nomination seconded! Looking at that GEC and particularly the soap powder dispenser I am thinking Philco bearing in mind from some of the postings of our Italian friends there seem to have been quite a variety of models. Paul (Royton) I find this confusing too - I wonder if they were assembled here only? Certainly the later ones are noted as being made in Italy (Paul (D) can you check the last wide bodied washer drier from the late 1970s - something tells me that was Spain) and the Philco connection is noted in Mike's 1977 report recently posted. Al |
Post# 605275 , Reply# 24   6/21/2012 at 10:59 (4,326 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Stokvis (literally translated from Dutch meaning stockfish...) was a Dutch company from Rotterdam. Full name was R.S. Stokvis. The company was named after it's founder Rafaël Samuel Stokvis. Originally it was a company selling stuff like British hardware, tools etc. Later appliances got the name Erres, after R.S. Other brands that Stokvis owned were EMI, Indola, ASW, Fasto and Solex. They also imported Austin cars into the Netherlands.
Philips took a business interest in the Erres brand in 1930. Some of the Erres products were relabeled Philips products that were sometimes sourced from other companies. Other products were still made in the Netherlands. In 1966 Philips owned the whole Erres label including the company that made products for Erres. In the 1980's Philips stopped using the name Erres. IIRC, some of the Erres products were sold in the UK as Stokvis. |
Post# 605366 , Reply# 25   6/21/2012 at 16:21 (4,326 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 605378 , Reply# 27   6/21/2012 at 17:50 (4,326 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Just checked back to the September 1960 Which report which tested the Double Plus and it states that the GEC was made in the UK - although there is nothing to say that the design was not of Italian or other origin - heaven knows there were enough products of that era where we "borrowed" the design from others. I recall that twin tub you mentioned but was it not of Russian or other Eastern Bloc manufacture? Although again, designs may have been borrowed and/or developed from others. That same report features both the EE (Westinghouse design), the Thor (built by Parnall i think) and a Parnall of which it states operation if not appearence is identical to the Thor. Here is a shot of that Double Plus, a real oddity - photo courtsey of ChesterMike |
Post# 605384 , Reply# 28   6/21/2012 at 18:11 (4,326 days old) by turnamat (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 605391 , Reply# 29   6/21/2012 at 18:44 (4,326 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 605461 , Reply# 30   6/22/2012 at 04:00 (4,325 days old) by turnamat (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 605462 , Reply# 31   6/22/2012 at 04:00 (4,325 days old) by turnamat (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 605464 , Reply# 32   6/22/2012 at 04:57 (4,325 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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There are often complaints about how long modern washers take to do a wash what with energy saving and water saving, but when I look back up the thread many of the washers seem to take a fair while too - the one that struck me straight away was the Servis Mk41 which is 1hr 45mins. My Miele (2004 model) takes 1hr 46 mins on its hot cotton wash and it is cold fill only compared to the H&C of the Servis. Most of the other machines seem to take around the same time.
I appreciate that many of the complaints about time taken come from US members comparing top loaders with front loaders (and let me be clear I am not making any judgement on the validity of those claims) which are not strictly comporable, but many of the above in teh thread are top loaders too using Hot or a mixture of H&C. I suppose it may be that, with the benefit of heaters "our" hot cotton wash might be hotter than a US hot cotton wash (85C or maybe more) and with the volume of water involved that may be part of the apparently extended wash time (effectivly giving the clothes a soak) as the machine comes up to temperature. The one I will be really interested to check out when I get home to see the full report is the Frigidiare which I am guessing is about the only directly comporable model. Al |
Post# 605636 , Reply# 33   6/22/2012 at 15:48 (4,325 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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