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Thread Number: 40896
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| Post# 605053 6/20/2012 at 14:59 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
Hey everyone got these yesterday. A friend of ours is losing his condo and offered these to us. They are about 11 years old and very low mileage. Still plenty of life in these two. The dryer is gas. The washer spins at 850 max and for quite awhile in the final spin. I was amazed at how dry the clothes were when they came out. I had to douche the washer since it had an aroma to it that was a cross between ewww and whats the scent?! Here are a few pix....
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| Post# 605055 , Reply# 1 6/20/2012 at 15:04 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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| Post# 605056 , Reply# 2 6/20/2012 at 15:05 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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| Post# 605058 , Reply# 3 6/20/2012 at 15:07 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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| Post# 605059 , Reply# 4 6/20/2012 at 15:08 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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| Post# 605060 , Reply# 5 6/20/2012 at 15:10 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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| Post# 605061 , Reply# 6 6/20/2012 at 15:12 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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| Post# 605103 , Reply# 7 6/20/2012 at 18:29 (4,327 days old) by golittlesport (California) | ||
Great laundry set up you now have. Machines for every need. Does that washer have the slow tumble/extended soak on the delicate cycle? Best handwash cycle I've ever used. I had the Kenmore 1000 rpm spin version of that washer and really liked it. It was a real workhorse and great performer for many years. Passed it on to my son and the bearings ended up going at 10 years old. If I had kept it, it possibly could have still been going as I know my son and his college roommate over-loaded and over-suds it.
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Post# 605107 , Reply# 8 6/20/2012 at 18:40 (4,327 days old) by gansky1  (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 605112 , Reply# 9 6/20/2012 at 18:59 (4,327 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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| Post# 605113 , Reply# 10 6/20/2012 at 19:08 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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I don't know about the Delicate cycle since I have only used the Regular/ Cotttons cycle. I had a set from Frigidaire back in the 90s that had the 850rpm 30 second burst final spin that really didn't extract much water. The dryer had the two way tumble that I did like but the blast furnace effect when it stopped to reverse and the elements were still on and it would stop, reverse and stop again and then start the heat was so intense pulling thru the load.
This set I was amazed that the bearings are still in great shape. But the guy we got the set from washed in cold water only. So you can see where I am going here. The scent that the washer and dryer has is a bit well stinky. I ran 2 cups of bleach thru the washer and got rid of mold in the bellows and in the dispenser drawer. I will have to get a washer cleaner to really deodorize it. I have been using borax and it does help. | ||
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Post# 605116 , Reply# 11 6/20/2012 at 19:57 (4,327 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Frigidare Built FL washers Nice usable laundry room set-up, you should be able to turn out lots of clean laundry per hour.
They sold MILLIONS of these machines between the Frigidare, Gibson, Kenmore and GE names and they are pretty decent performers. The washers had more than their share of broken spiders and bad bearings, the spiders are thinner than most FL washers and if you use too little detergent, too much fabric softener, in cold water and no bleach they corroded and broke often. The same user problems contributed to seal and bearing failures. Over sudsing and packing the machine never likely hurt any of these washers, or any other modern washer.
We work on these dryers almost daily, they are an OK dryer if you are not a heaver user, I estimate that they have about 1/2 the usable life of a WP built dryer, or about the same as newer GE dryers. Weak areas are the front and rear drum bearings, motor, idler pulley, heating element, and valve coils on the gas models. The good thing about these FD built dryers is that they sell a dryer rebuild kit that contains the F&R drum bearings, belt, idler pulley assembly for less than $50 retail so it really helps to keep these machines repairable without breaking the bank. | ||
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Post# 605120 , Reply# 12 6/20/2012 at 20:11 (4,327 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Mike--I had the same gas dryer (though mine was a few years older than yours) when I lived in a warehouse apt. It tended to singe a few areas with large loads of bath towels, so beware. Items at the back of the drum (again, large loads) tend to get the worst of it. Also: If you try to dry a comforter, use low heat and stop it every 10 minutes to reposition the load; otherwise, singe!
Other than that caveat, they were a fine pair. Too bad the dryer drum is so damn small. It's not big enough to deal with the rather large load the washer can handle---my only complaint. Hope you enjoy them! | ||
| Post# 605121 , Reply# 13 6/20/2012 at 20:13 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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The dryer I am not thrilled with since it's on the small side for capacity at 5.7 cu ft. And the vanes catch underwear and washcloths in the ends in the space between the vane end and drum wall. I know my Kenmore version of this dryer does this. Plus the Kenmore has the stainless steel drum. I might take that drum and put it in this dryer and I would have to take the air baffle out since that dryer is electric and this one is gas. What I am talking about is the air baffle mounted to the drum to shield the heater element. Then again I may leave well enough alone too....
That's good to know they have a kit to replace the belt and bearings. I may get that kit. | ||
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Post# 605122 , Reply# 14 6/20/2012 at 20:18 (4,327 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Excellent set you got there......I love these models....they seem to be the best models......I had the Kenmores, which I preferred, even the dryer had a Stainless Drum......for the most part, you can't kill these machines......
I adjusted my water levels too.....nothing these machines can't handle.....I think I still have my VHS user video for these machines somewhere.... Best of luck with them | ||
| Post# 605123 , Reply# 15 6/20/2012 at 20:25 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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One thing that I did notice is that the washer handles the same sized loads that my SQ toploader does. The front loader does wash well. But one odd thing is that you know those Tide Stain Release packs, well they have issues dissolving. I had the remnants of the pack glued to a couple of shirts. Had to rewash them. So I won't be using those packs. I followed the directions on the package and tossed them into the drum before the clothes.
But that said this washer extracts a whole lot more water than the SQ washer. Uses less water too so that's a plus for us since water here ain't cheap. Opening is smaller but thats not an issue. Softener is dispensed better than the SQ since softener gets hung up in the agitator and I don't use it plus the dispenser on the SQ sucks. Getting back to the extraction part. The SQ spins at 710 rpms. The front loader at 850 rpms and the drum has many more water exit holes than the SQ washer that holds onto water much longer in the load. Overall I like it. | ||
| Post# 605125 , Reply# 16 6/20/2012 at 20:29 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Aww thanks Martin. Let's see how long they last with my pain in the ass tenant using them. Not happy about that but the idiot was doing laundry tonight...yes in this heat too...and he was using the dryer and put it to more dry when less than Optimum will work. I told Scott that she will learn the hard way by shrunk clothes and singed clothes.
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| Post# 605126 , Reply# 17 6/20/2012 at 20:39 (4,327 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
I bought a set for my auntie and uncle 12 years ago whom I am going to replace them for with a nice Kenmore set in Berry.Nothing wrong with theirs,never.Just wanted to update their appliances since they and their daughters got all of their appliances from me and are just recently beginning to have issues.They'll get a nice Frigidaire dual oven range with two identical oven cavities, a GE Taltub dishwasher, a Frigidaire OTR microwave,a Whirlpool french door frig. w/indoor water dispenser and an insinkerator disposal.All those are black.My two cousins, their daughters, are in on this and the day I arrive in Baltimore will be the same day the appliances are being installed.
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| Post# 605134 , Reply# 18 6/20/2012 at 21:28 (4,327 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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| Post# 605146 , Reply# 19 6/20/2012 at 22:11 (4,327 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Post# 605160 , Reply# 20 6/20/2012 at 23:56 (4,327 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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It's a good washer | ||
| Post# 605170 , Reply# 21 6/21/2012 at 00:33 (4,327 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Also, high reliability clockwork timer. Only electronics are in the motor module. This machine ate a box of wooden matches a roommate left in a pocket. No damage, no clogging. Quiet. Thorough rinsing.
Do NOT 'twirl' the timer dial. It won't hurt the timer itself, but the cam that distributes water in the dispensers can jump timing and need the lid removed to reset. | ||
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Post# 605220 , Reply# 22 6/21/2012 at 06:29 (4,327 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 605223 , Reply# 23 6/21/2012 at 06:49 (4,327 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Frigidaire Built FL Small Door Washers Around 2000 They switched to the solenoid controlled dispersers as Martin pointed out, and with the switch to the three phase motor from the earlier brush motor these washers still used a mechanical timer, but the timers advance is controlled through the motor board as the machine became a Hy-bred between a mechanical timer and an electronically machine. | ||
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Post# 605224 , Reply# 24 6/21/2012 at 06:55 (4,327 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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One man's meat: While many of you raise water levels in front-loaders, I've always lowered them. I found them to clean better with less water, as the lift/drop action tended to improve. This was especially true of the '88 Frigidaire and the '91 Gibson. It goes without saying that my 2010 Frigidaire doesn't require such an adjustment, LOL. But I get great cleaning results despite the ultra-low water level, so I've made peace with its inherent lack of splashy drama. Lift/drop action is great, even with very small loads.
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| Post# 605314 , Reply# 25 6/21/2012 at 13:26 (4,326 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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I raised the water level a tad because I want it to deal with cat fur since I have been line drying lately. It's does quite alright I have to say! I did buy Tide Washer Cleaner and that stuff got rid of alot of gunk in the washer. The scent is rather nice I think. The dryer drum I washed it out and sprayed bleach onto the drum to kill anything growing in on the surface. It worked and I must say that I did use the dryer and it's rather quick. I had an electric version and I know all too well how hot the back can get. I am wondering if since this is gas if it will do the same. I did notice that the airflow into the drum is n the right side of the drum back so it's not like the electric version.
And yes I wiped out the drum after the bleach douche in case anyone asks. | ||
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Post# 605351 , Reply# 26 6/21/2012 at 15:31 (4,326 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass) |
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The gas version of these dryers do better because the heat source (gas burner) is under the drum instead of behind it like the electric version. Also the grease in the rear drum bearing socket tends to last longer and not dry up. That being said, I've never been a big fan of these dryers. | ||
| Post# 605370 , Reply# 27 6/21/2012 at 16:40 (4,326 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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| Post# 605430 , Reply# 28 6/21/2012 at 23:00 (4,326 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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When I bought it I knew there was really no such thing as Frigidaire. Safe assumption White didn't design it, but assembled it from Euro components. Which we now know were Electrolux. Now all we need to know is who Electrolux was (owned by) in the 1998-2001 timeframe.
Is the 3-phase chopper motor/electronic set as reliable as the brush/PWM? Having the electronics 'tell' the timer when spin is happening or not gets around the only operational problem I have observed with this set. | ||
| Post# 605459 , Reply# 29 6/22/2012 at 03:13 (4,326 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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I gotta say that I like having an old fashioned timer knob again for the washer. It makes it easy to tell how much time is left in a cycle and if I want to repeat the wash cycle I can with no fuss. Granted I do like electronic controls like I had on the dreaded Neptunes and even on the Mieles but one cannot change things up on the fly like a good old timer like this washer has.
The dryer still purrs like a kitten and except for the usual wear marks on the drum surface I think its going to be OK. If I have a rather large load I can use the GE Profile dryer since that will match the capacity of the washer. This washer holds a rather large washload. It amazes me the size of the new washers on the market today but I think its overkill. Cant be good for the bearings of these machines not to mention the motors and suspensions. | ||
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Post# 605469 , Reply# 30 6/22/2012 at 05:20 (4,326 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 605489 , Reply# 31 6/22/2012 at 06:54 (4,326 days old) by mtn1584 (USA) | ||
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Beloved? Ok Mike, did you say 'BELOVED' GE Profile Dryer? What gives with the love affair between you and this dryer?? LOL Sorry, but I think I love my Speed Queen more than you love your GE!! LOL MIKE | ||
| Post# 605496 , Reply# 32 6/22/2012 at 07:25 (4,326 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Yes I said it! LOL as much as I wanted the matching dryer to the SQ washer , the SQ dryer would have cost us close to $500 and the GE Profile dryer was on clearance at Sears for $500 and we got another $100 off it since I asked if that was the best they could do in price. The dryer originally was supposed to be $700. The GE has way many more features compared to the bare bones SQ dryer. Stainless steel drum, sensor dry, steam, tighter temp control. The SQ had the galvanized drum, thermostatic control.
So I got more for less with the GE. | ||
| Post# 606863 , Reply# 33 6/28/2012 at 13:01 (4,319 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Well I used the dryer yesterday and it does quite well and it's very quiet. I used the Cottons Automatic cycle and set it for Optimum Dry and was impressed at how well it did for a thermostatic control dryer. This dryer has a duct in the back of the drum that funnels the air onto one side of the drum and I have to say its very fast drying a load. I used the regular temp for the whites and it dried without cooking everything. I used low temp on the colors and things were wrinkle free. Medium temp I think is the best of both since ts not too hot and not too cool. Drum size is adequate I think for what I need.
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| Post# 606904 , Reply# 35 6/28/2012 at 16:11 (4,319 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
Mike what good washer!
Love the water shots. That was my first front loader got it for 40 dollers second hand. Since I have to downsize which of course I dont. I gave it to Martin and beleave Brian L took it. Hey Brian you got picks of that washer ? I called It Mr.Cotton. The GE made one was a quiter unit you have and accelerate nicer to top speed I beleave yours is 950 rpm. Where as mine was a 30 sec Burst at 850 rpms. Very nice and good luck with it. Here is Martin carting away The Frigadare Gallery line. Darren k 
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| Post# 606906 , Reply# 36 6/28/2012 at 16:16 (4,319 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 606942 , Reply# 37 6/28/2012 at 19:58 (4,319 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Darren I had that same washer when I lived in Omaha. It just did the 850 burst and then the spin was over. The GE/ Frigidaire does spin at 850 for about 5 mins. It's amazing how much water it extracts in the final spin. The Miele I have in Maine spins at 1400 rpms and I find that there isn't much difference in extraction. The GE extracts a whole lot more water than the SQ washer. And gawd I am going to get crucified for saying this but the front loader cleans better than the SQ washer. I have been using this machine for everything lately. I have been line drying and things dry in a flash on a warm breezy day here.
So I did the math with water consumption here. The SQ washer uses about 60 gallons per load set at extra large water level. I double rinse that's why the high consumption. Doing 6 full loads = 360 gallons of water used. The GE doing the same amount of laundry 6 full loads at 30 gallons per load = 180 gallons used and that's with 4 rinses. Water saved is 180 gallons. That's also taking into account for the water level rise. Now I normally do 6 loads a week so in a months time SQ 360x4 weeks = 1440 gallons. The GE 180x4= 720 gallons for a savings of 720 gallons. It adds up over time. | ||
| Post# 606953 , Reply# 38 6/28/2012 at 21:00 (4,319 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Wooohhh SQ police Run Run lol.
Mike yes that is amazing savings. In water... I mean you really have to look at it for what front loaders save. My friend just got a pair of SQ for his tenents the same model you have. He had problems with Whirlpools walking when the tenents overloaded or but large items like a comforter in. Darren k | ||
| Post# 607000 , Reply# 40 6/29/2012 at 02:39 (4,319 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Darren, you got it for $40? Geezus, I paid almost $900! Obviously one of us got snookered and I don't think it was you. The thing couldn't have cost more than $175 to build.
OTOH, that's $64 a year over 14 years. Whereas 2 x $2.00/week at a coin op over the same time is $2900 so besides the hassle of going there and minus what I spent in water, that FrigiwhiteelectroGEpool saved me $2000. Now hush, don't let it hear me say that or the spider and bearings will go out next time I use it. | ||
| Post# 607011 , Reply# 41 6/29/2012 at 06:32 (4,319 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Don't have a water softener here, don't need it since our water here is considered "soft" naturally. But that said we pay thru the nose for water here...not so much for when it comes into the house, it's the sewerage rate that's a killer! They charge double for it to go out. Doesn't make sense but that's what it is.
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| Post# 607131 , Reply# 43 6/29/2012 at 15:00 (4,318 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
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Mike I know what your saying lol but I have to tell you I do like this front loader. I had the Kenmore version with the rear control panel and it did quite alright too. But bearing issues caused me to buy the Mieles that I have in Maine. I didn't realize how much the GE Frigidaire washer does well on cleaning, capacity...holds as much as the SQ washer. I did use the SQ washer for a mat that I had to wash. The front loader would have not liked it by itself. Balancing issues would have occurred but the SQ washer did quite alright. I like having the best of both worlds here. It makes my life easier. The front loader cycle is about 10 mins or so longer than the SQ and as flexible too. The new front loaders like my dreaded Neptunes took forever to complete a cycle and balancing ...don't get me started! Lol
I am going to be doing an experiment and use the front loader for 3 months solid and see if there is a difference in our water bill. | ||
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Post# 607456 , Reply# 44 7/1/2012 at 13:50 (4,316 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Fl or TL Washer?
Use both let the wash water run out of the FL into the SQ TL washer, I do this all the time with my 1-18. I fill the 1-18 with dirty work jeans and save the hot wash water and first rinse water from two loads in the FL washer. The jeans get a nice soak while they wait for the second fill of recycled wash water and the jeans get nice and clean with only about 20+ gallons of cold rinse water, it is almost like getting a free load of laundry.
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