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Speed Queen gas dryer help please |
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Post# 631236   10/13/2012 at 08:27 (4,212 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Hi all, my speed queen gas dryer just stopped igniting, the ignitor goes red, of course gas tap is open. The dryer gas valve does not open....so no flame or any gas not ignited. It just makes a weird thing, when I turn it on while gas tap is closed and after the ignitor went red and then cooled down and I open the gas tap it start releasing gas in the drum.....and does not stop until I stop the unit! What could be? Thanks |
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Post# 631237 , Reply# 1   10/13/2012 at 08:43 (4,212 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)   |   | |
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Post# 631240 , Reply# 2   10/13/2012 at 08:48 (4,212 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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There could be several things......
a timer issue...... or the gas valve itself is not functioning...... you may have to investigate more as to the cause....... does the gas still pour in even if the unit is unplugged, that would be cause for a bad gas valve......or like a washers water valve, something could be stopping it from closing, even unplugged, the water would still flow... or test the contacts at the gas valve, is the timer sending down the current when needed after the igniter has reached the red glow? my one experience was intermitant flame......all caused by a solenoid on the gas valve....using a screwdriver pushed against the solenoid to twist it, the flame burns, let go, and the flame stops......2 new solenoids cost about 30.00, and back in action ever since...... let us know how you make out.... |
Post# 631243 , Reply# 3   10/13/2012 at 08:58 (4,212 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Hi Martin thanks, no the gas just does not flow I would smell the odor from the vent, when I turn it on the ignitor goes red but no gas valve opens.... But another weird thing is that if I turn dryer on with the gas tap closed and then I suddenly open it I can hear a shhhh sound from the burner and gas smell from the vent and drum, but if I shut off the unit gas valve also shut off as well... Thanks Martin This post was last edited 10/13/2012 at 11:24 |
Post# 631244 , Reply# 4   10/13/2012 at 09:00 (4,212 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 631262 , Reply# 5   10/13/2012 at 10:46 (4,212 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I found this webpage but did not understand many things, especially this part: Checking the Gas Valve.This is done if you have established that the Ignitor Coil is coming on but the Burner is not firing up. A malfunction in the Gas Valve usually occurs when the Solenoid Coils that open the flow of Gas in the Gas Valve get weak and burn out. The Solenoid Coils are located on the top of the Gas Valve. After testing the Coils and establishing that they are good there is no need to check the Gas Valve any further. So lets go ahead and test the coils. In order to test the Gas Valve coils you will need your Multi-Meter. Disconnect the wires that are connected to the two coils. With your meter set on the resistance setting check the coils for the following readings.
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Post# 631302 , Reply# 6   10/13/2012 at 14:24 (4,212 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Okay I'm doing some continuous attempts trying to get more info, it was asked if it might be a pressure issue? Hopefully that it is a thing I could cheaply fix, also in case are coils to be changed there is always the problem of the voltage, i'd need 220-240 working ones and honestly I do not even know where to look for them.... This post was last edited 10/13/2012 at 15:54 |
Post# 631319 , Reply# 7   10/13/2012 at 15:18 (4,212 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Just took a video......
The video starts with me turning the dryer on, first ligting attempt went bad as usual, all the shacking you can see at 0:35 it's me going to close the gas tap, then at 1:11 I let stand the camera inside the cabinet waiting for ignitor to light and get red and so me going to open the gas tap, then as you can see the burner did again what I mentioned before, it just get a small gas flow at the beginning of burner assembly so I have immediately shut off the dryer, I took another video then showing again the gas tap trick which had success this time......and lasted lighted on for 5 minutes, then as always it shut off..... Thanks CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenmoreguy89's LINK |
Post# 631320 , Reply# 8   10/13/2012 at 15:22 (4,212 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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This is the other video: CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenmoreguy89's LINK |
Post# 631465 , Reply# 10   10/14/2012 at 07:45 (4,211 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I checked the contacts and the dryer send current to coils after ignitor get red, I didn't understand how this Multi Meter works, but, hopefully it is a coils issue I wil try to change them, do you maybe know if there is difference from 120 volt coils or 220 volt? Hopefully that it will be what will work for us.....
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Post# 631546 , Reply# 11   10/14/2012 at 14:49 (4,211 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Hi Jon, it's gas piping is brand new it just have a few weeks, except for the copper gas pipe bringing gas to the room which unfortunately is very hidden back behind kitchen furnitures so it is ver hard to reach for a change so I just hope it is the coils that went, I would need to move all the kitchen furnitures and wait for a plumber to come....and pay good money. I can just reach the copper pipe elbow and noticed that during the last works in the kitchen hand bending it they made it's circonference in the elbow tighter further... it could be a possible cause also..... it is 2 weeks that I've made these changes and no problems till yesterday... as for the vent hose is brand new,and also vent hood is new, nothning is blocking the airflow as I can feel a good amount of air getting out of the vent and also this morning I tried to dry a load with the gas tap trick and I can see a good amount of steam going out the vent.....so is vented as it should....
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Post# 631615 , Reply# 12   10/14/2012 at 20:09 (4,211 days old) by Iowegian ()   |   | |
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I don't have any dryer diagnostic advice, but: You should never use copper tubing or piping to distribute fuel gas. |
Post# 631762 , Reply# 13   10/15/2012 at 05:59 (4,211 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Can I ask why? |
Post# 631765 , Reply# 15   10/15/2012 at 06:16 (4,211 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 631833 , Reply# 16   10/15/2012 at 12:43 (4,210 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 631850 , Reply# 17   10/15/2012 at 13:57 (4,210 days old) by fido ()   |   | |
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I don't know how it works in Italy but in UK it is illegal to work on gas valves, pipes or fittings unless you are a qualified gas engineer. |
Post# 631855 , Reply# 18   10/15/2012 at 14:21 (4,210 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Really???
Here every hardware can sell gas stuff to anyone, intended as piping etc.... what it takes to put a pipe to a stove or dryer??? A matter is an house plant, another is piping an appliance, work on coils etc... Sorry but it sounds ridicolous to me.... Anyway not sure if there such a law in Italy, honestly......I don't care! |
Post# 632128 , Reply# 19   10/16/2012 at 15:19 (4,209 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Had to amputate by sawing the bolt head as it would not come off in any way, well it will always have just one bolt in the holder for the coils in place, not a problem I guess, tried to read a part number but looks like the code on them is not actually a code so tried to write to speed queen and online seller to ask if (american) 120 volts would work anyway for my model and dryer running on 220 volt...let's see and hope to fix the problem changing the coils... Thanks |
Post# 632275 , Reply# 23   10/17/2012 at 06:54 (4,209 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Almost everyone I know that is able to connect a hose does it byself over here, and would laugh at a law (if there is here) telling they can't connect their gas appliances or extend a gas pipe theirself....of course gas is dangerous and would result in damages for others also, but like dangerous would even be an old gas heater operated and not checked for awhile, that would make no that sense to put a law avoiding every work on gas, rather that would be personal good sense to call a plumber if you don't know what you're doing or have doubts about....this is my thought and prohibiting to anyone to do that byself if he does have personal skills (not wrote on a piece of paper) is not fair nor have sense for me. Ignitor sensor works fine as I can hear the "clunk" when it open the valve, so mean ignitor sensor recognize the heat of ignitor and so current is sent (verified it with a current tester).... freddy
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Post# 638495 , Reply# 24   11/12/2012 at 11:58 (4,182 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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