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Post# 631998   10/16/2012 at 02:04 (4,206 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Nice dryer selling with it. Hey, Gordon, is the bol washer you once told me about?

RCD



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Post# 632000 , Reply# 1   10/16/2012 at 02:05 (4,206 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The console...



Post# 632004 , Reply# 2   10/16/2012 at 02:23 (4,206 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        

Looks like an 1980's version of my childhood 1967 BOL Washer. I wonder if this is a Belt-Drive or a Direct-Drive??

--Charles--


Post# 632008 , Reply# 3   10/16/2012 at 02:40 (4,206 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

BOL machines have a certain charm to them, don't you think?
I don't think this washer even has a water temp control! Permanently warm wash/cold rinse?


Post# 632009 , Reply# 4   10/16/2012 at 02:43 (4,206 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Looks like hot-warm-cold depending on where you set the dial...

RCD


Post# 632034 , Reply# 5   10/16/2012 at 05:39 (4,206 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Andy - I probably did mention a machine like this at one time (thanks by the way!!). This model however is a direct drive. It appears to be a cosmetic clone of the BD version, but this is indeed a later 1980s DD. The size of the lid, the screws on the outside edges of the console, and the clear plastic skirt on the dial give it away.

Looks in nice shape --- these inexpensive models don't always get well care for. And for sure, this is as bol as it gets. This model would have the gray agitator (instead of the white --- gray was reserved for BOLs) and the blue tub, although the blue tub appeared some years and not in others. There are three wash temp choices. 1970s versions of this machine in BD quise often had only two temps, hot and warm, and a mid 1990s version, with the puke brown control panel, had only warm wash - no temp choices at all.

Gordon


Post# 632035 , Reply# 6   10/16/2012 at 05:44 (4,206 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Holy BOL batman! Is there a hit and miss engine underneath the skirt SmiliesFTW.com


Post# 632040 , Reply# 7   10/16/2012 at 05:58 (4,206 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

This model was also seen in the stores under the Capri badge. There were a couple of Capri models. I don't know anything about the name arrangement.


I remember when Sears used to offer semi automatic washers where the fill temp was controlled by the faucet setting for the single hose like at a laundry tub faucet. You filled it, and it would agitate for the selected period of time, drain, spin and shut off. You repeated the procedure for rinsing.


Post# 632050 , Reply# 8   10/16/2012 at 07:01 (4,206 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
One of..

My Aunts had an earlier BOL Kenmore, it had a single dial on the right hand front of the cabinet.

Post# 632060 , Reply# 9   10/16/2012 at 07:47 (4,206 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thats as about as BOL

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as it can get for an automatic. I remember seeing them in the store and thinking RUN JON RUN- RUNAWAY to the lighted control panels!!


Post# 632083 , Reply# 10   10/16/2012 at 10:20 (4,206 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
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We've all seen these babies in the stores - Sears had them, GE had them (I fondly remember some of GE's where they used the WWA5400 style control panels but put beige plastic blanks in the two holes where the toggles went), and WCI/Frigidaire, etc. I think many brands had basic machines, but it seems that Sears, GE and WCI did a really good job of getting them out there, at least to look at. We don't seem to find as many WP BOLs, though they had one-knob-wonders too.

Actually buying one of these was, or at least seemed to be, another story. We've heard stories of this too. I looked at a BOL GE/Hotpoint in 1982 in a store in Denver and the sales person shushed me away from that model outright telling me "You don't want that one". Many years later, like two years ago, I tried to buy a one-knob Roper, RTW4000SW to be precise, and the sales person came up with EVERY excuse in the book why I didn't want the $199 washer, saying "It won't wash anything". When I finally said "its the same agitator, basket, and drive mechanism that is used in many coin op machines, and I don't think they would sell to profesional laundries if they didn't wash..." Then they said "Well, they're out of stock and you will have to wait". I finally had to go to the store's administrative management to get clearance to buy something that was clearly for sale on the floor. By that time I was annoyed and never did buy it...

That Roper was a single valve machine similar to what Tom describes, though it had a full wash & rinse cycle. You got whatever temp water you delivered to that single solenoid valve. I came across one of those machines in Youtube recently - I'll find it and post a link.

I was recently surprised to see that even in a 1962 Consumer reports article that rated mid-line washers, they made mention of 'economy' models, which had been tested the year before along with top end units. Even back then, the economy models were said to be difficult to purchase as sales people may even be penalized for actually selling one. They also mention the "not in stock in the warehouse" trick - 50 years ago!

Combo/John has a fascinating story of how Sears tried to market a BOL dryer. Sears was selling it as some crazy low price, but again, apparently it was nearly impossible to purchase, and it sounds like this practice got Sears into some legal trouble? I gues that got worked out because there seems to be a great many of these BOL direct drive machines in their various guises out there. Kenmore / Sears / Capri and I think one other name were all marketed by Sears. These are plentiful on Craigslist. I don't recall seeing nearly as many 20 years ago when the BDs should have been plentiful as well.

The one thing I've always wondered --- would it have been equally as difficult to order one of these from the catalog? I somewhat doubt it. They were almost always included in the appliance pages, and Sears in the 1970s and 1980s used differnt font/bold-face highlighted print to exemplify their basic machines. "Even our very low priced model has an agitator and a power cord" sort of thing. Sure sounded like they wanted to sell it you called in with an order.

One time when I was about 17 I called Sears and placed an order for vac bags for my Mom. During that call, I gave a stock number for the BOL machine and asked if it was available. "Yes sir" is all they said. I didn't dare go further or I would have had some explaining to do when I got home from school. LOL

Gordon


Post# 632084 , Reply# 11   10/16/2012 at 10:28 (4,206 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Too many things to laugh at in this video, but sheets and a bathmat? Hence the out of balance spin.

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Post# 632090 , Reply# 12   10/16/2012 at 11:00 (4,205 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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I remember when my dad bought a new washer for his dad after his old one crapped out. He ofc bought a one knob wonder Roper very similar to the Kenmore pictured. Being a washer boy, purchasing a new washer for someone was a BIG DEAL lol ( Iwas about 7 or 8 at the time) and I fussed about the BOL. Love how these random machines on craigslist can bring back childhood memories


Post# 632094 , Reply# 13   10/16/2012 at 11:17 (4,205 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
We Had....

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....A BOL 1965 Kenmore pair. One-speed, one-cycle ("WASH"), and I think variable temp. Bed-of-nails lint filter. The dryer was one temp and timed only.

Both lasted a very long time, even in the hands of The Appliance Killer, a.k.a. Mom.

Control panels were die-cast metal, even on these cheapies, though that was probably more a function of available technology than any desire on the part of Sears to give anything away.

The only problem with them was that they replaced a 1951 Kenmore pair like Northwesty has (sigh!). But that's hindsight.


Post# 632095 , Reply# 14   10/16/2012 at 11:36 (4,205 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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We had a single dial Roper Dryer that dried for a family of eight and lasted for 40 years. I'll have to ask Geraldine if the dryer actually conked out, finally; or if she just got sick of it and wanted a new one. Last I knew it had never been repaired, just dried and dried and dried--AND DRIED. Truly a one-hit wonder!

 

I have a single dial KM dryer, 20 years old. Same performance. Hoping to have it till I croak. LOL

 

Hurray for one dial BOL's that never say die.


Post# 632097 , Reply# 15   10/16/2012 at 11:42 (4,205 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Gordon, That idiot in the video is typical of so many kids today who just don't have a clue about how to cook or care for themselves. I saw an underwear brief waistband in there. I wonder what temperature was selected for washing. It's disgusting to contemplate. That it spun at all is some kind of testament to the WP balance ring. It would be fun to see what happened if a frozen BR was put in the tub for that load.

Post# 632101 , Reply# 16   10/16/2012 at 12:12 (4,205 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Capri...

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I totally forgot about that label. I remember seeing them on the sales floor when I went drooling... ummm... looking around to see what was there. The ranges were cheaper than crap. Some were even still standing pilot ignition IIRC and I thought the burner grates would collapse under the weight of a Jiffy Pop package. No Pan drawers and the oven doors felt so light, I thought they might be using Kleenex for the insulation.

Does Capri still even exist?

RCD


Post# 632107 , Reply# 17   10/16/2012 at 12:44 (4,205 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        
Capri

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I am guessing it was at least 10 years ago Sears dropped the name. I had friends that owned a dealer store and when the merger happened, their store commission was drastically cut, to the point they only made a profit on the Elite line. They sold the franchise after working more hours for much less pay than it was worth. I once had a used BOL GE with the 2 beige plastic blanks and filter flo. I defeated the hot wash/warm rinse to be controlled at the faucet. Granted the capacity was dismal but it is a workhorse and still running perfect in a friends home after 40 years.

Post# 632112 , Reply# 18   10/16/2012 at 13:08 (4,205 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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I bet it just washes in HOT and at least if not rinses in COLD then probably rinses in WARM!

The kind of washer an old lady would buy! (After getting years of mileage out of her old wringer!)


-- Dave


Post# 632114 , Reply# 19   10/16/2012 at 13:21 (4,205 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Kelvinator BOL

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one of the recent Automatic Ephemera Kelvinator postings showed a real genuine TOTALLY BOL Machine from 1957--------one hose, no water level switch, you controlled amount and temp at the faucets. Then you turn the single knob to WASH for as long as you wanted. Then to OFF for over 30 seconds for the motor and tranny to stop, then to SPIN until it was as dry as you'd like. You turned the water back on for spray rinsing, etc. Then you repeat the entire steps for deep rinsing. Think about it-----no timer, no temp controls, no water level switch, no valve solenoids, no lid switch. The only cheaper thing would be to eliminate the pump and have it gravity drain. All you are really doing with that simple WASH-OFF-SPIN knob is sending power CCW and CW to the motor, nothing else. Being 1957, I'm gonna bet it was a non-polarized 2 prong plug, be careful.
Could actually be kinda fun, ya know?


Post# 632143 , Reply# 20   10/16/2012 at 16:47 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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These Roper/Galaxy/Estate BOL one-dial wonders are also only 24" wide too.

No water level selection and water temps were determined by cycle selection, all followed with a cold/tap rinse, since there is no ATC.  Very simple, kind of kewl grey agitator.

There is a set on CL here locally for sale, the seller wants $300.


Post# 632145 , Reply# 21   10/16/2012 at 16:48 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Direct drive in it's purest form. 


Post# 632146 , Reply# 22   10/16/2012 at 16:50 (4,205 days old) by wetguymd (Maryland)        

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My aunt had one very similar to this. I asked her why and her response was "do you really ever use all those cycles"? I stopped to think a minute and I had to answer no for the most part. I love all the TOL stuff and buttons and bells and whistles but I really don't use alot of them. I have a TOL LG front loader and I have to say the only cycle I really use is the "speed" wash cycle. The other cycles are way too long. I guess I don't have clothes that are dirty enough for the sanitary cycle and even the normal cycle is like over an hour. In the Maytag top loader I had before it only took like 35 on the longest time from start to finish. I am one of those people that really only do laundry once a week and I hate that it takes all day to do laundry.. so sometimes I pull out the wringer and "get her done". Back to my point.. I guess I do understand the point of a washer like this... quick.. to the point... and done.

Post# 632150 , Reply# 23   10/16/2012 at 17:30 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I'm more of a fan of the Roper version that has that simple stainless (?) control panel. Looks industrial/commercial. 

If I had a rental property, these are exactly what I would put in there.  Pretty basic and user friendly.

 


Post# 632151 , Reply# 24   10/16/2012 at 17:39 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Not even so much as a post mounted fabric softener dispenser.  Reminds me of those little Toyota Tercels they used to sell in the early 80's that didn't have carpet in them. Not even a cigarette lighter. Totally a price leader. 


Post# 632172 , Reply# 25   10/16/2012 at 18:53 (4,205 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Reminds me of those little Toyota Tercels they used to sell in the early 80's that didn't have carpet in them. Not even a cigarette lighter. Totally a price leader.

I wish they still did that now! The newer cars have waaay too many bells and whistles I don't care to have or use. Heck, I was pissed that I had to get power windows when I bought my Honda Accord back in '99. If I wanted cruise control, I had to get the package that included power windows. Grrr!

Funny, one of my neighbors has one of those little Tercels with over 300K miles on it. It's starting to look like crap but it runs wonderfully.


Post# 632176 , Reply# 26   10/16/2012 at 19:45 (4,205 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        
You guys are so lucky there in CA

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That you can keep a car going by the miles with care not the years of salt and now the pre-brine coating that rusts them out. My 95 Buick Wagon has reached finally the end with only 86000 miles but has seen 18 years of Maine winters. There is way too much rust damage to get a state inspection. You can wash it good and before you get home it is covered in a white film in the winter. I'd buy a new Corolla for that price now.

Post# 632188 , Reply# 27   10/16/2012 at 21:12 (4,205 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Neat find Drew

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I just scored a nearly unused (it was used twice)  BD version of that last spring from 1981.  Here's a link to the vid. 

WK78



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Post# 632191 , Reply# 28   10/16/2012 at 21:32 (4,205 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
This is turning into a cool thread...

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Sandy - The 1965 Kenmore BOL, if it was a 29-inch machine, was most likely a 400 series, is that right? They were pretty cool - One full automatic normal cycle, a supplemental temp switch for Hot, Warm, or Cold wash, with H or W yielding warm rinse, and cold wash with a cold rinse. If you could deal with just a normal wash cycle, they were probably a fine choice. I would be fine with that. The diecast console panels were what most all Kenmores had at the time -- as you said, a function of available technology I think. Plastic and aluminum on panels were not far away however. I believe there are a few pics in the archives of that machine if you're interested.

Tom - I thought the same thing you did as soon as I heard the guy's voice in the video...just another kid who has no clue whatsoever how to do laundry or how to take care of things, let alone appreciate them. Its how his generation was brought up I think. As to the temperature - in this model, the temperature is set at whatever the incoming water is. It very well may be connected to cold water only. When I considered buying one of these, I was going to get a Y-connector in-line before the single hose, and control the temp at the faucets, but I bet there are a lot of folks who didn't do that.

Also Tom, I liked your comment about the Sears semi-automatic washers. They are actually numbered in a different series of model numbers than those with two separate water inlets. The single coil models, where temps are moderated at the faucets were numbered as 110.xx03xxx models (such as 110.6703300 for example) where the 3 was in position number four. A 4 there meant non-suds automatic, and a 5 meant suds-saver. Most 3-numbered semi autos were not feature laden machines, but some were two speed, multi-cycle models. They just required the user to manipulate incoming temps. I have seen these in photos here on the site, but only one ever in person. I do not believe that line made it into the 70s very far, if at all.

Andy - I never paid attention to much Capri stuff except the laundry, which was just rebadged Kenmores and not of lower quality, at least I didn't perceive this. Capri hasn't been around in a good while, and later on it seemed to morph into the Galaxy name, and they seem to be scarce if not gone as well. Sears hasn't had a BOL washer, not like this anyway, in quite some time. The BOLiest of the recent DD days was a two cycle, 300 series Kenmore with separate water level and temp switches, and a DA agitator, which is considerably more machine than this one. In fact, I think Roper may have been the last maker of a true one-knob wonder?

Gordon



Post# 632290 , Reply# 29   10/17/2012 at 08:28 (4,205 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Now with all the DOE mandates on washer water and energy usage, what's to become of the BOL segment?

Obviously they are not Energy Star friendly since they are devoid of most of the electronics that make all that possible.

Start collecting them now because this segment is about to go upmarket or away entirely.

 

 

This is a prototype from Electrolux called, "Intestine".  Which is appropriate, because I got sick to my stomach when I saw it.

And if this is the future of our Hobby I am going to never get rid of my "water hogs".

-Alex

 


Post# 632324 , Reply# 30   10/17/2012 at 11:12 (4,204 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

A friend of mine had bd KM similar to this one, but it had 3 water levels and water temp was controled by the timer setting and rinsed in cold water only. I was a nice machine for a bol/mol. It was on a farm, and washed a lot of heavy jeans.


Post# 632325 , Reply# 31   10/17/2012 at 11:12 (4,204 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
E-lux "Intestine"

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Now come on... what good is a "washing machine" like this one that deposits your freshly cleaned clothes on the floor?!?!?   Wink

 

AND.... as it's for "busy people" I suppose the idea is to do one or two things quickly.   There is no way this could be your primary clothes laundering machine.   Can you imagine doing your family's laundry with this thing, it would take H O U R S feeding each item one by one.

 

Kevin


Post# 632326 , Reply# 32   10/17/2012 at 11:15 (4,204 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
The Intestine...

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Yeah, that's hard to digest...

RCD


Post# 632333 , Reply# 33   10/17/2012 at 11:38 (4,204 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        
@RCD

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Niiiiice!


Post# 632334 , Reply# 34   10/17/2012 at 11:44 (4,204 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Uhh...

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That 'Intestine' is just kinda gross. And to be anatomically correct, the clothes should exit ont he back side.

Malcolm


Post# 632363 , Reply# 35   10/17/2012 at 16:10 (4,204 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Check one for Andy... that's a good one!   LOL

 

And Malcolm.... LOL... very true!

 

Ultimately I don't see how this "Intestine" thing could actually be functional and produce cleaned clothing items (out the front OR the back).   I'm sure it's just a non-fuctional design concept that someone dreamed up, then mocked up.

 

**Hey... shouldn't we be talking about this "thing" in the Deluxe forum?   LOL

 

Kevin


Post# 632477 , Reply# 36   10/18/2012 at 01:48 (4,204 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

How does the Electrolux "Intestine" washer work?By UV Light?Does sound disgusting.And can it clean the "tracks" the REAL intestines leave behind?

Post# 632519 , Reply# 37   10/18/2012 at 06:57 (4,204 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Keeping the FLOW

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Do you have to sprinkle your dirty clothes with a little fibre before cleaning to make sure the don't get backed up/stuck in your 'Intestine' machine?

If you do have a problem, do you call an appliance repairman or take it to a doctor?

Malcolm


Post# 632557 , Reply# 38   10/18/2012 at 10:11 (4,204 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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I created a seperate thread with more info on the Electrolux "intestine".

My point was what will be the fate of the BOL washer if this is where we are going?  

 


Post# 632558 , Reply# 39   10/18/2012 at 10:26 (4,204 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Post# 632588 , Reply# 40   10/18/2012 at 13:28 (4,203 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
weird

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Post# 634805 , Reply# 41   10/28/2012 at 00:17 (4,194 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Here's an oddity. This is the first time I have seen a relatively modern washer platform (GE Filter-Flo) as a BOL SEMI-Automatic?


Post# 634960 , Reply# 42   10/28/2012 at 21:02 (4,193 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Gordon:

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"Sandy - The 1965 Kenmore BOL, if it was a 29-inch machine, was most likely a 400 series, is that right?"

It was a 29-inch machine, but I could not for the life of me tell you what the model number was. I was embarrassed by the machines, for all that they were a brand-new matched set, because at that time Mom was still in her "BOL's all you need" mode (she would later become the Queen of TOL, not that she took care of TOL stuff any better than she had BOL stuff). Everyone else we knew had much fancier machines; my paternal grandmother had a new set of Kenmore 800's, and her next-door neighbor had a set of keyboard Lady K's. My second cousin's wife had a 1962 or '63 set of turquoise Lady K's (gorgeous, but unreliable as hell), and my mom's sister had GE's that weren't fancy, but still nicer than our set.

Mom used them for nine years, until they moved from the house I grew up in, and then sold them on. I do not recall any breakdowns, which given Mom's "work it 'til it drops" philosophy, was pretty good.


Post# 635011 , Reply# 43   10/29/2012 at 00:53 (4,193 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Sears sold a semi automatic portable in the  early 1980's  it was the "bait" machine to get you to purchase one of the totally automatic portables.  alr


Post# 635014 , Reply# 44   10/29/2012 at 01:36 (4,193 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Here is a Pic of my nearly unused BD KM BOL

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I know Gordon will like this. These are rare and even more rare unused. I had an insanely good bit of luck finding this. Alot like my All original KM Ltd from 1986. I am humbled by having this good fortune 2x in one years time.
WK78


Post# 635033 , Reply# 45   10/29/2012 at 06:06 (4,193 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Gordon:

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Thanks for the info about Robert's "Memories of Estate Sale Saturdays" thread, because the very first pic in that thread is it. The machine we had was indeed a Kenmore 400. Looking at it now, it doesn't look nearly so stripped-down as it appeared to me at the time; the control panel is nicely designed and it does have variable water temp.

Just remember, it was competing with lighted-console machines, which were a whole 'nother level of glamour.


Post# 635045 , Reply# 46   10/29/2012 at 08:31 (4,193 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Wow, the NEW Kenmore has a BLANK INNER-LID! (With just the Caution label on it!)

Wonder if the older model at least has instructions or if it's just as plain as a Maytag inner-lid?

Maybe we should start on an Inner-Lid thread to show if our washers have instructions & how comprehensive or limited they might be...!


-- Dave


Post# 635053 , Reply# 47   10/29/2012 at 09:52 (4,193 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Dave -

Back when Kenmore/Whirlpool had a choice of either a painted enamel top and lid, or porcelain, only the porcelain lids got instructions under them. Even then, a few porcelain lids, including our 1961 Kenmore 70, did not have instructions. The painted lids were rust prone in most areas except the dry climates out west. When a nice one comes along today, it is great to find and appreciate.

In 1983 when WP began powder coating lids and tops, they quickly stopped making enameled versions. The powder coated lids usually always had instructions of some sort, at least until fairly recently when they started increasing the use of adhesive labels which they can vary model for model.

Gordon


Post# 686721 , Reply# 48   7/1/2013 at 20:00 (3,947 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Seems like this would be an ideally good washer for a Barber Shop/Beauty Parlor/Hair Salon, along w/ a One-Knob/One-Temp dryer!


-- Dave


Post# 686729 , Reply# 49   7/1/2013 at 20:30 (3,947 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        
BOL Kenmore Washers......

The washer that is pictured at the top of the thread looks like a 1980's Direct-Drive version of my early childhood Kenmore that lasted from 1967-78.

Well, pictured below is the 1967 Belt-Drive version that I grew up with. Ours was paired with a 1975 Kenmore "All-American" Dryer in its later years. My washer is the last one that is pictured to the VERY right on the bottom.

Oh...... ours did not have any instructions under the lid either. Ours was blank white lid as well.

OKAY!!!!! Here it is!!!!!

Enjoy!!!!

--Charles--


Post# 1197642 , Reply# 50   1/21/2024 at 23:48 by chetlaham (United States)        
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Can anyone tell me more about that filter-flo washer? What year was the picture taken? And where was it taken? Is the washer a portable? Is it manual, semi or fully automatic? Does it roll around? I've never seen a GE filter flo in that format. Or that such a adaption even existed.

Post# 1197644 , Reply# 51   1/22/2024 at 01:12 by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
whirlpool dd

I've always been interested about the engineering and design of these machinese and have been looking for an archived press release on these or any other model, including this one.

Post# 1197676 , Reply# 52   1/22/2024 at 11:39 by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Our first washing machine was this kind of BOL

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It was a compact 24" wide 1956 Whirlpool on casters that was in the kitchen of our Peter Cooper flat in a "Hi-Fi" crate (because washing machines and portable dishwashers were taboo in those apartments so businesses in the neighborhood accommodated customers who desired such appliances by disguising them for delivery). When supers or workers came to the apartments, those illegal machines were just rolled into a closet. It was there when I was born and it had a rubber hose that fit over the kitchen sink faucet and a drain hose that hooked over the sink. I guess that machine was the beginning of my appliance fascination. I loved that machine. It did everything that it needed to do.

 

And yes,  GE had these models through the years but they weren't "Filter-Flos" and rarely if ever made it into brochures.


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Post# 1197680 , Reply# 53   1/22/2024 at 12:26 by chetlaham (United States)        

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Can you elaborate on that? I see a filter pan and flume above the clothes guard. Does anyone have on of these in their collection? Where were they sold?

Post# 1197685 , Reply# 54   1/22/2024 at 13:09 by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Sure

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The GE in my post didn't have a filter flume or a filter pan, but GE had so many variations of BOL models that a customer might be persuaded to spend 10 dollars more for the filter-flo feature or a WASH TEMP control or both. I'm sure a major brands like Whirlpool/Kenmores were offered with the same options.

 

In NYC where I grew up, lots of people lived in apartments with limited space where washing machines were run off of and into a kitchen or bathroom sink.  NY appliance stores like Grainger's and PC Richard sold/sekk extreme BOL's to customers who can't install them conventionally with dedicated water supply  or a drainpipe. I'm sure there were lots of people in the burbs and rural areas who bought them as well. 

 

AFAIK smaller brands like Maytag didn't but they did have stripped-down models that were used for coin laundries.

 

For what it's worth, I remember seeing a couple of Frigidaire WO-65's back then. It was kind of compact and didn't have bells and whistles.


Post# 1197689 , Reply# 55   1/22/2024 at 13:37 by chetlaham (United States)        

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I was thinking about the washer in the picture I'm attaching. It appears that it doesn't have temperature or water level control but has a filter pan and flume outlet like a full size filter flo. I'm not even sure if the timer knob is automatic.

I understand that in apartments and condos wheeled portable machines are common, however I've never seen such an adaption in regards to a filter flo. I've seen WP BDs and DDs with a modified suspension and smaller inner/outer tubs taking advantage of the full size drive mechanism however never with a filter flo. I always assumed all of GE's space maker washers were of the Hitachi design- the one with the 4 point suspension, PSC motor and solenoid shifter.

This pic is just so patriotic to the filter flo nation. To realize that a top load design was so common and so mass produced that it was adapted into a portable version. To think that a portable washer is so beast it has a 20 pound counterweight in it and steal inner/outer tub.

Lucky apartment dwellers.


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