Thread Number: 44287
Imperial by Hobart Kitchenaid dishwasher is flooding |
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Post# 651500 , Reply# 3   1/6/2013 at 22:33 (4,127 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Well, for build quality, it absolutely is --far superior -- but otherwise it's a very straight-forward, tried and true design.
The issue is more about parts availability than the machine's age or design. A lazy repairman who lacks any sense of dedication will be quick to advise you it's not worth fixing and to replace the machine.
"Pay no attention to the man behind the access panel!" |
Post# 651898 , Reply# 6   1/8/2013 at 17:58 (4,125 days old) by Anne ()   |   | |
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By the way, I could find nothing that fit the description of a coil on the drain valve.... |
Post# 651900 , Reply# 7   1/8/2013 at 18:00 (4,125 days old) by Anne ()   |   | |
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Here is a picture of the workings... |
Post# 651913 , Reply# 9   1/8/2013 at 18:17 (4,125 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 651916 , Reply# 10   1/8/2013 at 18:18 (4,125 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 651956 , Reply# 12   1/8/2013 at 21:17 (4,125 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Beautifull ! |
Post# 651958 , Reply# 13   1/8/2013 at 22:02 (4,125 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)   |   | |
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Also sometimes the drain hose gets clogged if it's connected to a garbage disposer. Turn off power to the dishwasher at your breaker box first. Then you can disconnect the drain hose at the solenoid (having a large bowl/bucket and plenty of towels ready) and try blowing through it. If it's clogged you'll know it. They usually clog where the hose connects to the disposer inlet under the sink. It can be messy but disconnecting the hose and cleaning out this port may solve the problem if there isn't a problem with the drain solenoid.
Best of luck. Patrick |
Post# 651962 , Reply# 14   1/8/2013 at 22:32 (4,125 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 652000 , Reply# 15   1/9/2013 at 06:04 (4,125 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 652010 , Reply# 16   1/9/2013 at 07:52 (4,124 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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You either have an inlet valve that is sticking open [ does water ever still keep flowing into the DW from half way up the left side of the tank when you open the door when the machine is running and overflowing ? ] and or an overfill protector pressure switch that is clogged or broken. KD-16 DWs do not have a turquoise drain valve that can be activated manually, your drain valve is the nylon thing in the middle underneath with the black coil on top with two wires attached.
Other things that may be causing the flooding are, Timer not advancing [ the DW should only fill for about one minute ] and you could in addition to the bad over fill pressure switch problem have a restricted drain [ partial clog ] or a bad drain impeller in the pump.
The best way to get something like this fixed is to call an independent appliance repair company that has been in business for at 25 years or more. Be sure to tell them how old the DW is and supply the model# and ask them if they are experienced and willing to fix an older DW. Many parts are no longer available for this DW, but with the help of this group we can help you most anything you will need to fix the DW, but sure to tell the repair company that you will be willing to track down any parts if they either do not have them or can not get them. Good Luck John. |
Post# 652400 , Reply# 18   1/11/2013 at 05:00 (4,123 days old) by zippyjet (Baltimore)   |   | |
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Hi, maybe I'm misreading this thread but, this Imperial looks like a very early 1970's model. By 1983 all KA front loaders had the upper wash arm with the "China Guard." Also the detergent dispenser is the older Hobart design. KA dishwashers from 1972 onward had the updated aqua oval soap dispenser. Good luck with your DW it's a classic and when you fix this problem it will be like the Energizer Bunny and keep going and going...
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Post# 652401 , Reply# 19   1/11/2013 at 05:02 (4,123 days old) by zippyjet (Baltimore)   |   | |
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Post# 652424 , Reply# 20   1/11/2013 at 08:02 (4,122 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Were an ok design at the time but had MANY problems, because their Bi-Metal actuators were wired in series with the main motor they would not always open reliably if the wash filter was dirty, the water level was a little low, if the machine was foaming from certain protean foods etc. This dispenser design had lots of leaks into the inside of the door and because of the placement of the BM opener it could cause shorts, burned connections and sometimes even FIRES. The lids on these dispensers also did not seal their contents very well and they sometimes washed out too soon.
While NO manufacturer has made a perfect Det Dispenser for their DWs, the various dispenser designs that WP has built and used since the mid 1970s have been without all the above mentioned problems. |
Post# 652425 , Reply# 21   1/11/2013 at 08:36 (4,122 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 653725 , Reply# 23   1/16/2013 at 12:25 (4,117 days old) by Anne ()   |   | |
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Just spoke to Larry at Modern Parts House in Cleveland. He said that those part numbers are not correct. He has the timers for KDI-16 that do not have the soak cycle. My model does have a soak cycle..... |
Post# 653736 , Reply# 24   1/16/2013 at 13:27 (4,117 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 653799 , Reply# 25   1/16/2013 at 18:47 (4,117 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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..you may want to email this seller and see if he has what you need.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO chachp's LINK on eBay |
Post# 653867 , Reply# 26   1/17/2013 at 05:22 (4,117 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Anne, here is another one you may want to check out. Looks like he has some timers for the older machines but I wasn't sure of the actual part number for yours. I have a KDS-17a and he had an upper spray arm (a new one) for mine which was a real surprise. He actually had multiples of them so it's worth a shot.
Ralph CLICK HERE TO GO TO chachp's LINK on eBay |
Post# 653875 , Reply# 27   1/17/2013 at 06:57 (4,117 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Anne glad you are on the way to getting your DW fixed, be sure when you get a timer and are having it installed that the service guy fixes the overfill control switch, usually the metal tube in the sump is just clogged with rust, but in some cases the pressure switch is bad. If the overfill control is working these DWs should never flood unless the inlet valve mechanically sticks open.
I checked my parts inventory and found a new timer for the KDI-16 Non Soak cycle model. I suspect that the non soak timer would work but you would lose the soak feature and a wire may have to be jumped so the DW would not stall near the beginning of the cycle. |