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Post# 676305   4/29/2013 at 20:15 (4,035 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)        

Recently showed up at our Sam's Club.  I haven't observed this version of Tide in our area before.

 

Anyone have experience or info regarding the variety and why it's designated as "Professional" Tide?  Interesting.





Post# 676310 , Reply# 1   4/29/2013 at 21:34 (4,035 days old) by mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)        

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It's a version of Tide, marketed for "Hospitality or Institutional Use" as such, it's not going to be limited to the standards our American/Home use detergents have.

Depending on what box you pick of at Sams Club, some boxes will have STPP, and some Phosphate Free.

I also understand, that it does have a ton of Sodium Percarbonate (active ingredient in OxyClean & Oxy Bleachs), plus, it has the nice edition of Enzymes to target carbohydrate/protein stains. Unlike Liquids, Powders can have both, while in Liquids, the Bleaches attack the Enzymes in the bottle, and vice versa :/

It's a really good detergent, for whitening. As is any detergent with STPP (Mexican ariel for example). Phosphate + Sodium Salt + Hydrogen Peroxide is just a amazing combination.

I think I'll stop now.. :P





Post# 676384 , Reply# 2   4/30/2013 at 07:39 (4,034 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

This is the box with directions for washing clothes, dishes, floors, loading docks, driveways, buildings & pretty much everything with thick, rich Tide suds. We found it years ago at a wholesale hardware place when it was in the big orange & yellow carton.

Post# 676395 , Reply# 3   4/30/2013 at 08:02 (4,034 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)        
Thanks....Cool

Thanks fellas for the info!

Since I took the picture, curiosity got the best of me; brought home a box but haven't tried it yet. Based on Tom's info, I won't try using in the FL Neptune, but should work well in the TL machines and maybe some other tasks or even in a wringer.

Thanks
John


Post# 676396 , Reply# 4   4/30/2013 at 08:04 (4,034 days old) by mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)        

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@Tom. I think the one your talking about is Tide All Purpose Cleaner. That Formulation is loaded with "ALKYL BENZENE SULFONATE"(for sudding) and Sodium Carbonate as a water softener.


www.pgpro.com/brands/tide...

This Tide Formulation from Sams Club, is for laundry.. Sadly. Although, with it's formulation, Your Laundry should show a nice hue of White :)



Post# 676398 , Reply# 5   4/30/2013 at 08:07 (4,034 days old) by mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)        

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@OldSkool, would you mind posting a picture of the back of the box?

Post# 676402 , Reply# 6   4/30/2013 at 08:14 (4,034 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I saw this a week or so ago at SAM's club. I don't recall there being any contents or ingredients listed on the box, but maybe I missed it. I did like the scent - much less fruity and putrid than many of the other choices. I don't like my clean laundry (or dishes) to smell of food as an indicator of being "clean". If they smell like food, that's why I'm washing them! LOL

Keep us posted on what you think of the Tide Professional


Post# 676410 , Reply# 7   4/30/2013 at 09:16 (4,034 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

What we found years ago had phosphates, but no bling.

Post# 676434 , Reply# 8   4/30/2013 at 11:18 (4,034 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)        
Will do

@ mich - Later when I leave work, will take a pic of the box and post,
@ Gansky - also will advise of how if works - God knows I've got tons of laundry to do tonight.

It's like 84 here today, makes me want to go home, pull out the wringer washer and then hang some things out on the line. Noting like sheets, quilts, blankets, etc...on the line. Now the white clothes and underwear...we're not going there.....oh how well do I remember the thread about that so to the dryer they go. (lol).

John


Post# 676452 , Reply# 9   4/30/2013 at 13:39 (4,034 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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I bought a box of this a few weeks ago at Sam's, but I haven't had a chance to use it.  Hopefully sometime this week.

 

Ben


Post# 676495 , Reply# 10   4/30/2013 at 18:54 (4,034 days old) by mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)        

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Forget to add, P&G specially formulated this detergent, to NOT LEAVE A SCENT, after washing.

It's really designed for Hospitably environments, for Washing of Linens. Or Restaurants washing table clothes, and really don't want them smelling like a field of flowers :P

If you've stayed at Hampton Inn, or Westin Hotels recently, you've slept on a comforter cleaned with Tide Professional :)





Post# 676496 , Reply# 11   4/30/2013 at 18:55 (4,034 days old) by mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)        

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*table cloths

I should have caught that :P


Post# 676503 , Reply# 12   4/30/2013 at 19:27 (4,034 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Above Product Is *NOT* The Same as Tide For Floors...

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Woodwork and other cleaning.

Rather it is a variant of Tide domestic laundry powder for institutional laundries. Product is similar to whatever version of TWB powder is being sold at the time.

Tide launched a "Pro-line" of laundry products several years ago and some may recall one nabbed a few boxes of the stuff. Posted at that time the detergent was quite like TWB sold in stores but had a different fragrance and was very low frothing. The late Sudsman of Texas further confirmed this product and stated his chemical suppliers were carrying it and that in his tests it worked well. Again these threads can be found in the archives.

If you read the marketing and advertisements copy carefully the above version of Tide sounds just like new Tide "Vivid" (formerly TWB). Same properties are being touted; less alkaline/near neutral pH for less damage to textiles thus longer life, better bleaching/stain removal for "bright" whites/colours and so forth.


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Post# 676504 , Reply# 13   4/30/2013 at 19:27 (4,034 days old) by bravos4me ()        

Mich,

The drawing on the box seems to indicate that it IS for things other than laundry. It shows bed linens, dishes/silverware, and a comb & scissors. Perhaps Tomturbomatic is correct.


Post# 676505 , Reply# 14   4/30/2013 at 19:38 (4,034 days old) by mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)        

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The Advertisement is referring to Restaurant use, like Table Cloths, & Cloth Napkins, and other Restaurant Linens. It just looks better as a advertising perspective, to have restaurant like stuff on the box, instead of a picture of Table Cloths & Flatware..

It also shows Scissors & Combs, as a suggestion of also washing Hair Salon Linens.

Also Keep in Mind, the box says "Oxy Bleach". If P&G was making a all purpose cleaner, like there old Mr.Clean Professional & Professional, they'd use Sodium Hypochlorite/Real Chlorine Bleach.

I could be wrong, but the MSDS would seem to indicate, it's a HE formulation designed for Washing Machine Use.. not Floor Cleaner.

I'm not trying to be mean guys, I'm just saying what I know about the Product...


Post# 676506 , Reply# 15   4/30/2013 at 19:39 (4,034 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Futhermore

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P&G, Lever Bros/Unilever, Henkel, etc.. that is all makers of laundry products have long had larger "professional" sized versions of their domestic things. This goes back to Lux, Chipso, Ivory and other soap flakes. After all commercial laundries are big businesses and use quite allot of products. They also aren't going to purchase smaller domestic versions because they do go through so much per month.

In some cases the versions sold are totally different than what is sold in shops, others are merely tweaks and or slight variations.

In Europe both Henkel and P&G produce Persil, Ariel and other laundry detergents that are familiar to domestic consumers but the professional versions are promoted to "kill bacteria", and so forth. This action is supposed to take place in water temps < boil wash range (that is at or below 140F instead of > 180F). Since UK and EU laundries long used boil washing with oxygen bleach for sanitizing versus the chlorine bleaching systems of the United States, in the new era of "energy use reduction", laundries can save money by processing loads at *cooler* wash temps.


Post# 676507 , Reply# 16   4/30/2013 at 19:40 (4,034 days old) by 2011hoovermatic (owosso michigan)        

What does STPP stand for? I've heard it around here but couldn't figure out wheather it's short for phosphates or it's at is an actual acronum.






Post# 676508 , Reply# 17   4/30/2013 at 19:41 (4,034 days old) by mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)        

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STPP = Sodium TriPolyPhosphate

also called, Sodium TriPentasodium Phosphate..



Post# 676510 , Reply# 18   4/30/2013 at 19:43 (4,034 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Images On The Box Represent The Industries

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Product was meant to be used, not *what* to clean things.

Bed represents hospitality industry.
Flatware and dinnerware represents restaurants/catering industry.
Scissors and comb represent the spa/beauty industry.


Post# 676574 , Reply# 19   4/30/2013 at 21:31 (4,034 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)        
Back of Box

Here's a pic of the back of carton.   Sorry for photo quality - cell phone.  Another to follow.


Post# 676578 , Reply# 20   4/30/2013 at 21:52 (4,034 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)        
Another shot

Sorry about the poor photo quality - got a new phone yesterday - horrible camera.


Post# 676581 , Reply# 21   4/30/2013 at 22:11 (4,034 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Phosphates

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Neither this version nor any other of Tide sold for laundry purposes in the USA contain phosphates. This applies to commercial/institutional laundry products as well.

Since New York State along with others either outright bans, limits or is planning to phase out phosphates in commercial laundry detergents (they previously were given a pass even when domestic use products were banned), many product makers simply no longer wish to bother creating separate versions for "do" or "don't" markets.


Post# 676583 , Reply# 22   4/30/2013 at 22:15 (4,034 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)        
Wash Quality

Did a load of towels in the Kenmore TL - didn't notice much suds so I tried a load of whites in the Neptune FL - came out very clean - rinsed well.  Reminds me of original formula Tide w/Bleach.  Smells similar - very clean - not heavy fragrance.  Did another load of towels, dark colors, light colors, then rugs - no problems.  After drying the scent is un-detectable.

Made a short video clip of the TL washing but couldn't get it to load.  Well tomorrow is another day.

 

Thanks



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