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1970s Dishwasher NEW in original packaging from Sears
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Post# 686484   6/30/2013 at 15:00 (3,924 days old) by xpanam (Palm Springs California )        

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Wonder what model this could be?

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Post# 686513 , Reply# 1   6/30/2013 at 17:41 (3,924 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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A lot of these Craigslist sellers were sick on "Marketing" day at the Harvard School of Business.

Post# 686658 , Reply# 2   7/1/2013 at 12:32 (3,923 days old) by william637 (Damp pants? Not a chance. )        
Contacted the seller

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I asked her for the model number or a picture of the control panel. She said she didn't want to open the box, but she found a date of 1989 on it. She is going to contact Sears with the catalog number that is printed on the carton and see if she can get model information.

Post# 686674 , Reply# 3   7/1/2013 at 14:43 (3,923 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
For $60

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If one lived in the area I'd grab it and sort out the "what" later. I mean you can probably always sell it on if it didn't suit, probably at a good mark-up.

Post# 686685 , Reply# 4   7/1/2013 at 15:36 (3,923 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Combo52 lives near there.  Whoever gets it can go pick it up and visit the museum...


Post# 686692 , Reply# 5   7/1/2013 at 15:52 (3,923 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Mark, you may contact this guy if you can find a way... He seems to have a lot of the old Sears Catalogs...

 

http://www.searscatalogsonline.com/category/1989/

 

or 

 

Have you considered asking one of the ebay sellers of the 1989 catalog?  The number is on the side of the box.

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=1989+sears+catalog

 

I checked the 1993 book that I have, but alas, no luck.


Post# 686704 , Reply# 6   7/1/2013 at 17:59 (3,923 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Model # is 587.1409580, or 81, or 82 depending on color. Obviously not a roto-rack.

Post# 686711 , Reply# 7   7/1/2013 at 18:28 (3,923 days old) by william637 (Damp pants? Not a chance. )        
repair clinic dot com

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Thanks for the model number.

I looked up parts for that model number on repair clinic.com. I was hoping it might be one of the whirlpool built kenmores, but based on all the parts that come up for it, this does not appear to be the case. Looks like I am going to let this one go.


Post# 686720 , Reply# 8   7/1/2013 at 19:46 (3,923 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for 1989....this could possibly be an UltraWash machine.....worth every penny....

but I think its a regular wash system.....

for a Kenmore, always check www.partdirect.com... .... sometimes you can also get an owners manual....


Post# 686722 , Reply# 9   7/1/2013 at 20:02 (3,923 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
NIB 1989 KM DW

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It appears to be a D&M built DW, it would be best to never open the box, LOL. $60 is about 12 times what the current value of this machine in scrap.

 

My former partner bought a new condo in 1980 and it had a basic D&M built KM DW in it, It was about the most miserable  DW we ever used. I replaced it with a WP SHU9900 electronic DW with the tilt-out control panel after a few months. I took the D&M KM and sold it to a Lady and installed it in one her rental properties and gave her my usual 1 year parts and labor warranty on the DW. That DW not only had several problems in that first year but we ended up trashing it within 3 years after several more problems.

 

Afer this experance I always vowed that even if I found a D&M DW New IN The Box I would trash it.


Post# 686742 , Reply# 10   7/1/2013 at 21:31 (3,922 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Don't hold back, John...

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Let us know how you REALLY feel about D&M dishwashers... LOL!

RCD


Post# 686753 , Reply# 11   7/1/2013 at 23:41 (3,922 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
John is right.

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D&M are horrid machines and are only worth their scrap value. 

 

I could never understand why Sears sold such a great WP built washer and dryer but a total POS dishwasher for so many years.   Surely they could have gotten WP or Hobart to make someting better. 

 

My experience with these overgrown garbage cans came in the form of a Caloric builder model when I was very young.  It was extremely loud, did a bad job and couldn't even drain it's water fully.  The neighbors in the next townhouse would call my folks and gripe about the noise if we ran it at night.  At least it didn't leak and flood the house or burn it down from a motor shorting out. What a wonderful day for mom when we moved and she got a KA instead. 

 

Unless this is an UltraWash model made by WP it is better to leave it in it's box and sell it for scrap.  Sorry to rant but I HATE these machines. 

WK78


Post# 686765 , Reply# 12   7/2/2013 at 01:17 (3,922 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

The Kenmore DW we had in the mid 80's only lasted three years before the tub rusted through and dumped all the wash water into the motor while it was running. Maybe it was a D&M design?

Post# 686776 , Reply# 13   7/2/2013 at 03:15 (3,922 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with John. Just about any D&M dishwasher I've encountered has been noisier than a bench grinder on a sheet metal building and washed about as well as a brick is aerodynamic but I have customers who swear by them ( many swear AT them). I am still amazed at how many variations of this design there were and under how many brand names they've appeared. The smaller tub width machines still surface occasionally and are snapped up by landlords irregardless of age. Like em or hate em, they do hold a place in appliance history.

RCD


Post# 686781 , Reply# 14   7/2/2013 at 04:12 (3,922 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

We acquired a Kenmore in 1976.  It was the first one Mom owned. It lasted over 10 years. We thought it was a great improvement over handwashing.  I now understand the differences in the brands and their construction. At that time Sears was much less expensive than a KA or MT. 


Post# 686889 , Reply# 15   7/2/2013 at 15:36 (3,922 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Andy

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That wasn't a shot at you.  I was simply stating my dislike for those machines.

WK78


Post# 686893 , Reply# 16   7/2/2013 at 15:45 (3,922 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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I caught this thread the first night it was posted. I was sure this was a D&M machine. I knew right away that the 5 mile proximity to Beltsville was meaningless!

Even back in the early '80's I recall how much John cared for the D&M machines ;)

Still it would be a worthy pick, although I think I'd leave it in the box for another 25 years myself too.


Post# 686894 , Reply# 17   7/2/2013 at 15:56 (3,922 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
It's all good, Nick!

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I didn't take it as a shot at all. I was having a little fun poking John just a bit over his unhappiness with things D&M but wanted to clarify my standpoint. All's fun in love and laundry!

RCD


Post# 686899 , Reply# 18   7/2/2013 at 16:21 (3,922 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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While I agree they had their issues, I'm perfectly happy with my 1955 D&M Kenmore Portable dishwasher.  It cleans well and works perfectly.  While not a Kitchen Aide, I am content.

 

That said, the quality of most things went down in between the 1950s and 1980s and I've read the horror stories of later machines.  I wouldn't want one much later either.



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