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Post# 697351   8/18/2013 at 21:31 (3,890 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Here's a rare one on the east coast... Amana RR-2 in nice condition.

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Post# 697360 , Reply# 1   8/18/2013 at 22:20 (3,890 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Nice paint on the knob plate!

Post# 697417 , Reply# 2   8/19/2013 at 01:38 (3,890 days old) by Travis ()        

Ugh,

I want it, but am not sure about having it shipped.


Post# 697419 , Reply# 3   8/19/2013 at 02:28 (3,890 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Seems nice indeed. Cory, do you know what kind of glass tray should be in these?


My RR-2 didn't have one when I got it. I did get one from a newer Amana and it fits there nicely but John showed me an older Radarange with a flat glass tray.


Post# 697515 , Reply# 4   8/19/2013 at 13:48 (3,889 days old) by Cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        
The tray...

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I was fortunate in that my RR-2 was an all-original, low use model right out of Cedar Rapids, IA. It has the 'early style' tray that was also used in the 3's and 4's with the warning about not operating the microwave without the tray in place.

I've talked with the owner of an RR-1 but his was a curb find so he's unsure about whether his had a tray, or not. We also know there's an "early" and "late" version of the 1, but having not set hands on either, I can't say if the difference is purely cosmetic, or if glass was introduced mid-year. -Cory


Post# 697571 , Reply# 5   8/19/2013 at 19:53 (3,889 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
RR-2

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The original tray was just a flat tempered glass shelf, all RR2s came with some type of glass shelf or molded tray. I have never seen an RR-1, but I would bet they also used a flat glass shelf,  would love to see one in person.


Post# 697574 , Reply# 6   8/19/2013 at 19:54 (3,889 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
RR-2

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The original tray was just a flat tempered glass shelf, all RR2s came with some type of glass shelf or molded tray. I have never seen an RR-1 but would bet they also used a flat glass shelf, would love to see one in person.


Post# 697582 , Reply# 7   8/19/2013 at 20:13 (3,889 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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John, I'm wondering if the flat tempered glass could be reproduced? 


Post# 697640 , Reply# 8   8/19/2013 at 23:18 (3,889 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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VERY nice! Nothing like an old MW that looks as good as new...and the control panel knobs with backlighting when operating....

Post# 697676 , Reply# 9   8/20/2013 at 07:29 (3,888 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Flat Shelf for the RR-2 MW ovens

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Hi Phil, it would be possible to have a piece of glass cut that would look much like the original tray although it might not be tempered glass, ours also has some strips of tape like material on both sides to make it easier to handle and I guess to keep it from scratching the SS oven interior. If the flat tray that I have didn't have the Amana label on it warning not to use the MW without the tray in place I would almost think that someone made this flat tray themselves. I suspect that a lot of these original flat trays got replaced with the later molded trays which fit perfectly in the RR-2s.


Post# 697726 , Reply# 10   8/20/2013 at 14:53 (3,888 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        
Tempered Glass

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Any decent glass provider can supply custom cut-to-size tempered glass. You could even get it with ground and polished edges and rounded corners.

I used to work at a small independent hardware store and we would routinely source custom made tempered glass pieces to replace shelves etc. The glass is usually cut to size and then tempered although it may be possible to waterjet cut pieces from an already tempered sheet now.

Do a Google search for Glass Supplier in your area and call them. I was always amazed at how cheap the pieces we sold were.


Post# 697727 , Reply# 11   8/20/2013 at 15:04 (3,888 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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That's interesting Phil!

I just called a local glass provider and they can order any size tempered glass under 3 square foot for $18.40 canadian and the edges are sanded smooth.

Then if your brother could measure the one he has in his RR-2 microwave oven and tell how the edges are (or take a few pics?!), maybe I'd try that!

John?!


Post# 697746 , Reply# 12   8/20/2013 at 16:58 (3,888 days old) by Travis ()        

I have sent an email.


Post# 697814 , Reply# 13   8/21/2013 at 00:00 (3,888 days old) by Cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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John, interesting that they had the warning imprinted on flat glass. I'd love to see a picture of this. The later trays (with drip edges) are borosilicate glass, and as such, aren't tempered. In fact, a common failure is that they split in two after years of microwave popcorn popping. Tempering probably helped with strength though. The trays are thick and weigh over 6 lbs each! -Cory

Post# 697838 , Reply# 14   8/21/2013 at 06:34 (3,887 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Flat Shelf for the RR-2 MW ovens

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Hi Cory, actually the warning label is just a red sticker applied to the front of the tray.

 

MW corn popping and broken glass cooking trays.

 

This still happens in brand new MWOs all the time and it can happen the frist time you do it. When I use MWPC [ which I seldom ever do ] I always place a piece of Corning-ware in the MWO and place the PC bag on top of the CW. I would do this especially if you have a vintage MWO, something else to consider is whether your MWO is vintage or new, popping pop corn in any MWO is very hard on the magnetron tube and often causes early and dramatic failures of the mag tube.


Post# 697848 , Reply# 15   8/21/2013 at 09:38 (3,887 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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John, if you have the chance to get the dimensions and thickness of the glass plate in your RR-2, I'd try to have one made to that size.


Post# 697885 , Reply# 16   8/21/2013 at 13:11 (3,887 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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The heat from the popcorn bag is intense and concentrated. I did wonder if the glass shouldn't be a low expansion kind, Pyrex etc. Once I used my infrared thermometer and the glass tray was 450F where the bag sat! I pop on top of an upside down Corelle plate if I microwave popcorn now.

Of course one should avoid microwave popcorn as the high heat leaches lots of nasty chemicals from plastic liner of the bag. I love how people I know freaked out about BPA water bottles, but they still eat several bags of microwaved popcorn a week...


Post# 697897 , Reply# 17   8/21/2013 at 14:09 (3,887 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Corelle:

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Can break under the conditions you describe; if something extremely hot comes in contact with the Vitrelle glass of which Corelle is made, the glass can suffer a "dropout," meaning a chunk of glass the approximate size and shape of the hot item will break loose, leaving you with a hole in the plate. This phenomenon is sporadic; some people never have a problem. Or they go for years without a problem, until one fine day....

My own choice for microwave popcorn is a Corning Ware pie plate (Blue Cornflower, natch!), which can take much greater heat than it's subjected to in the microwave.

Just wanted to be sure you knew - you don't say which Corelle pattern you have, but some patterns are not easy to replace.

Corelle Corner has an article that describes this kind of damage; scroll down to the paragraph titled "Heat Fractures":


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Post# 697930 , Reply# 18   8/21/2013 at 17:22 (3,887 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Thanks Sandy for the warning, I realize that Corelle can have thermal issues. So far no problems though.

The plates I use are some old all white hackers. Some are even off color pieces that came from the outlet store. A failure wouldn't break my heart!


Post# 697931 , Reply# 19   8/21/2013 at 17:32 (3,887 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Phil:

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Sounds like you know what you're doing, so that's all right then.

I am much more careful with my Snowflake Blue than I would be with Spring Blossom Green or Butterfly Gold; those last two patterns are sitting about knee-deep in every thrift store in America. But not Snowflake Blue.

There are other Corelle patterns that are HTF, as well.


Post# 705294 , Reply# 20   9/25/2013 at 14:15 (3,852 days old) by Travis ()        
It made it home!

My RR2 just got here and has been cleaned. It's in nice shape having come from the original owner.

Post# 705305 , Reply# 21   9/25/2013 at 14:57 (3,852 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Congratulations! Does yours have the flat glass tray? If it does, I'd like to have the dimensions!

 

Thanks

 

 


Post# 705328 , Reply# 22   9/25/2013 at 17:32 (3,852 days old) by travis ()        

Phil,

 

It's has the flat tray.  I can see why they went to the later style tray.  The flat glass was a pain to handle.


Post# 705342 , Reply# 23   9/25/2013 at 17:58 (3,852 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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I'd like if you could send a picture of it with the door open and if you have a chance to note or take another picture showing the serial number of your oven, it would be great! It's probably on a tag under it near the door

 

Here's a picture of mine:

 

1969 Amana RR-2


Post# 705400 , Reply# 24   9/25/2013 at 22:01 (3,852 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Flat Tray For RR-2s

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Yes the later molded tray was diffidently an improvement, it was not only easier to handle but it contained pretty good sized spills.


Post# 705485 , Reply# 25   9/26/2013 at 13:49 (3,851 days old) by Travis ()        

Here you go with the interior pic. It's heavy. I'm not looking for the serial number without help!

Post# 705523 , Reply# 26   9/26/2013 at 18:15 (3,851 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Travis, that's a beauty- Nice Save!!

Post# 705544 , Reply# 27   9/26/2013 at 20:59 (3,851 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Thanks for the picture!

 

The serial number if located between the door and the front leg on the early RR-2 models. It's easy to see if you move the microwave a bit on the counter as I did to take the picture...

 

Your glass tray doesn't seem to be clear. Is it textured? If I remember well, John's glass tray is clear?

 

Also, is there a buzzer on-off switch under the control panel? My RR-2 lacks a buzzer and a switch and I think John and Cory's RR-2 microwaves also lack them but some do have one like Jon's RR-2.


Post# 705548 , Reply# 28   9/26/2013 at 21:23 (3,851 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Travis - great looking RR-2. You just had it shipped and it arrived intact? Can I ask who you used to ship it?

It looks like your interior light is in the center rear!? If so, that's where it should have remained, imho. Oh well, small matter to most.

Phil


Post# 705557 , Reply# 29   9/27/2013 at 00:07 (3,851 days old) by Travis ()        

Phil,

I know a shipper that was fairly close to the seller. He picked this up and brought it to me. It was only mildly dirty when it landed on my counter. I can't wait to smell the cooking through the door.


Post# 705607 , Reply# 30   9/27/2013 at 07:37 (3,850 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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And you'll also hear the cooking through the door!


Post# 705828 , Reply# 31   9/27/2013 at 23:25 (3,850 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Ha! I forgot there's nothing but screen - and I missed thinking about the sound and smell experiences - unique!


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