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Post# 698039   8/22/2013 at 04:06 (3,887 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Post# 698051 , Reply# 1   8/22/2013 at 05:36 (3,887 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Woods, My Foot!

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Launderess,

Stone Mountain is named after the - well, the stone mountain that is in the middle of it, the largest granite outcropping on Earth.

For the rest? Freeways and suburbia and strip malls. Georgia still has moonlight, but the magnolias are losing ground fast. Except for the accent of the natives, you might as well be in Jersey.


Post# 698056 , Reply# 2   8/22/2013 at 06:22 (3,886 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Here is some geologic history along with descriptions of the "tarting up" of the site. My senior prom was held in the pavillion on the top of the mountain. Most of the year the shallow depressions on the mountain are filled with rainwater so there are pools up there with toads around them. It is a place most of us knew from our childhoods with the walk up the west side being fairly easy. High school kids used to drive their vehicles up the south side until fences were put up, but as I remember, they had to climb the hill in reverse. Maybe that was for traction or maybe it started with the Model T Fords with the gas tank up front over the engine so if the hill got too steep the gravity feed stopped and the engine died. All through my school years there would be a news story almost every year of some fool falling off the side of the mountain. As the saying goes, it was not the fall that killed them, but the sudden stop at the bottom. Older neighborhoods had granite curbstones because of the plentiful supply of granite in the area. It seemed that anywhere we dug in our old yard, we would hit granite and the sewer went out of the basement about 4 feet above the floor because of the granite that was encountered out in the street when they were putting in the water and sewer lines. It meant that no one could have plumbed-in laundry tubs in the basement, but most people did not have basements anyway and many who had basements opted for having the washer on the first floor instead of down in the basement. The builders called them "Yankee basements" because basements were not a Southern building feature. Some of the homes with basements did not even have interior stairs to them, but relied on outside stairs.

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Post# 698057 , Reply# 3   8/22/2013 at 06:22 (3,886 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
I Know

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Was going for affect! *LOL*



Post# 698094 , Reply# 4   8/22/2013 at 10:13 (3,886 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Maybe we could FOCUS on the Hoover Twin Tub.....

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... that's for sale on fleabay for $200??


Post# 698151 , Reply# 5   8/22/2013 at 14:11 (3,886 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Stone Mountain

Is a beautiful place, near Atlanta.

Post# 698162 , Reply# 6   8/22/2013 at 15:17 (3,886 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Hoover

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I wonder how many people on aw.org love these Hoover portables? Or is it just one of the collection type thing? Not to paint a negative picture in any way, but other than the turquoise and yellow(sorry, don't know the marketed color name)...these hoover washers look like a tub for anything but clothing..cleaning fish, machine parts, anything but clothing. It's true, I've picked up some microwaves and appliances only a mother could love, but these Hoovers- ? Compared to so many other appliances, these look like afterthoughts of machine design and function- something you'd stick in the old gas stations, maybe, to wash off the grease and oil from parts. But the yellow and turquoise units - I might use those to wash fruit and vegetables, if I could hook up a shower hose. Now I'll go to my room. (slips out quietly)

Post# 698173 , Reply# 7   8/22/2013 at 15:43 (3,886 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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WOW Phil........  It's pretty obvious YOU have absolutely ZERO love for these!  Geeze!

 

Yes people do love this just like you love your "microwaves and appliances only a mother could love".

 

Bashing appliances you don't like... that's not what AW is all about, is it?

 

Kevin


Post# 698181 , Reply# 8   8/22/2013 at 15:58 (3,886 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Well they look like a tub because that is what they are, hence the name "twin tub". Vastly prefer Hoover TTs over wringer washers for design but who am I to judge what floats someone else's boat?

Only Maytag and Hoover had twin tub washers in the United States so from a design point of view we are limited here; however across the pond there is or rather was a wide variety of designs.


Post# 698189 , Reply# 9   8/22/2013 at 16:30 (3,886 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Agree, Launderess, and to all else - coffee, tea or ? It's past 4pm. but never too late to wash.

Post# 698192 , Reply# 10   8/22/2013 at 16:35 (3,886 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Grossly misunderstood

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Oops, not at all Kevin - I wasn't bashing. I just find these odd in all the interesting other appliances. I really don't see how my comments were slanted to bashing...certainly not my style and apologies if I hit a nerve. I love almost everything in washers and dryers, even if I wouldn't have room to collect even the oldsters from way back.

Please - just was asking for some feedback - what is it about these that appeals to the collectors or non-collectors? I'm a curious heart...open-minded, never critical, but certainly human enough to allow enough room to say, "from my perspective, what's up with these? I'm truly curious as to where the afficionado-ness(I improvise of course) .....comes from.

Not a hair of criticism for owning one - not a hair or thread of bashing. I can really do bashing...but it would never come out of me, Kevin.


And thanks for keeping aw.org always a source of inspiration and interest - everyone.



Post# 698366 , Reply# 11   8/23/2013 at 09:48 (3,885 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Phil: Apologies, perhaps I misread or misunderstood, but that's what I got out of it.

 

Kevin


Post# 698370 , Reply# 12   8/23/2013 at 10:20 (3,885 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Phil

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In the US and Canada, these were usually sold for apartments, tiny homes, college dorms, etc, where you didn't have a regular automatic standing machine hookup. My guess would be some 2% or less of sales in the overall washer market. So keep that in mind. I would guess that almost anyone who could hookup and afford an automatic would have chosen one instead.

 

For a hobbyist like many of us, they are an alternative way to do wash, a fun occasional few loads of clothes. They are not for everyone or everyday, but they are effective and economical. I have a mid-70's Hoover #0519 that I use about once a month. I wouldn't want it as my only machine, but it's a fun alternative at times.

 

As long as you don't try king sized bed sheets and throw rugs, you be AMAZED at how quickly you can get through tons of clothes with economical water usage. And the spin speeds in the spintub are about triple what an automatic will do, your dry time is cut down to 1/3.


Post# 698385 , Reply# 13   8/23/2013 at 11:04 (3,885 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Akronman;

Thanks for explaining...it makes sense now and I actually wouldn't mind seeing one in action - at least the size would fit somewhere in this "compartment" (a.k.a. "apartment).Spins that fast? If it has a turbine sound, I'm "in" for 2 - could have fun there(can't help, love jets). So they're quite a little power pack, it sounds like - and filled a small niche market. :

When were these last made and were they improved into the last years (?year) ..was Hoover the better of the two brands that were available? And what do they weigh?

Thanks again.


Post# 698395 , Reply# 14   8/23/2013 at 11:52 (3,885 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
I agree with Mark:

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I suppose wringer washers and twin tub machines are in the same category, in the sense that, as Mark stated, you can power through mounds (mountians?) of laundry quickly.  Granted I don't use them regularly, because I prefer an automatic.   But they are fun to use in a occational basis.

 

I have 3 twin tubs in my collection.  An Easy Spindrier, a Maytag A50 and a 1970 "oovah". 

 

On the spinner RPM, yes they do spin FAST.   The Maytag is 2200 rpm and I believe the Hoover is around 2000 rpm.   But you have to remember, the spinner is only 7 or 8 inches in diameter, they need to spin that fast to be affective.

  

Here a video of my Hoover & Maytag twin tubs.

Kevin

 







Post# 698403 , Reply# 15   8/23/2013 at 12:27 (3,885 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

If you were in a situation where you could not have a washer in an apartment, these beat shlepping down to the laundry room. I put them in my "do not have to have" category now, but cannot say that one would not have been welcome when I was in the efficiency apt.

Post# 698444 , Reply# 16   8/23/2013 at 14:54 (3,885 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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I'd like to have one of these (or perhaps a Maytag). Indeed they aren't stylish or sexy but I would call them neat. For certain articles of laundry I think they could do a great job and you can learn a lot being "hands-on" through the process.

For sure they don't replace the automatic though!


Post# 698468 , Reply# 17   8/23/2013 at 16:15 (3,885 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
IMHO From Both Actual Use And Observation

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A wringer washer is actually of more use than most twin tubs.

The wash basket of a Hoover and most TT's does not hold that much nor can it cope with large bulky items such as blankets larger than crib size. Even if one could launder vast amounts and or a large item in the tub the spin basket has definite limits. OTHO most wringer washers had decent sized tubs and a standard sized mangle can cope with heavy blankets/bulky items. One has to know how to fold such things into the wringer and so forth, but it can be done. One knows this from having put queen sized blankets through a hand wringer.


Post# 698556 , Reply# 18   8/24/2013 at 08:42 (3,884 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Weight and noise

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Weight is under #100, whereas most full sized machines are over 200. Noise?? When out of balance and the spin motor can't get up to speed, not too loud. When properly loaded and doing 2000RPMS, it's like a plane takimg off. Amazing, loud, effective fun.


Post# 698803 , Reply# 19   8/25/2013 at 12:30 (3,883 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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I give the video high fives- the crickets at the end...perfect.

There's no real comparison to a full size washer and not fair to compare. I can see where these are cute and wold be fun. In terms of actual use...a few select tems that one wouldn't want to use in the daily W&D's.

Your towels were pretty dirty, but it showcases how it cleans. I like the Maytag, but wished it was larger. Depending on what level of dirt you accumulated in your wash, it might take another rinse cycle.

So, would the next step up in this concept be the Servis Super Twin 111 or Hotpoint Supermatic 9400? I could see having the Hoover and Maytags for small washables and see how it fit the niche' market, now.

Thanks for making/sharing the videos.

Phil





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Post# 698832 , Reply# 20   8/25/2013 at 14:05 (3,883 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Does any expert know what the broken off bits are above the washer compartment?

Post# 698887 , Reply# 21   8/25/2013 at 19:51 (3,883 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Hoover TT Actually Cleans Quite Well

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Even for very soiled loads. However there is the problem inherent to all impeller washing machines; tangles.

Hoover's service manual for these machines first and foremost gives the reason for wash becoming a tangled mess is running a load too long. Maximum time by the timer is about four minutes, which of course may not be enough to get some items really clean. You *can* reset the thing to run long as one wishes, but once laundry starts to tangle up and ceases moving you've got problems.

When you think about it adding a beater as with some other TT's could decrease capacity as the thing takes up room in what is already a small tub. IMHO the best design would be TTs that used H-Axis drums for washing, much like top loading versions of such machines today. You had the best of both worlds; a more through wash and or rinse action with less chances of tangles. More so if the tub reversed.


Post# 698926 , Reply# 22   8/25/2013 at 23:11 (3,883 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Launderess: The H-Axis strategy would seem a viable, possibly good design direction - ah, but would it ever make it out of the 3D printer in 1:25 scale? ;-) But..somewhere...beyond aw.org - who knows, someone may have a beaterless TT. We used to customize cars, outside and in - wonder if there any TT customizers out there, lurking...?

(CRICKETS)


Post# 700028 , Reply# 23   8/30/2013 at 18:49 (3,878 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Phil, I know this stuff

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First of all, the Easy Spindrier was NEVER known as a twin tub, predating real TT's by decades; rather it was called spinner, and there were several manufactures of spinners as early as the 20's 30's 40's , even GE making one that looked a lot like an Easy.

In fact the only genuine or actual twin tub is the unusual Philco in another thread where one tub is a true twin in size and function to the other. And perhaps the Uuimad, except for the their spinner in the middle, making it a tripple tub :->

I don't pretend to know when or how the term "twin-tub" came into the popular lexicon, except that is was years and years after the long established and widely used Easy Spindrier in the United States. but I know that in the UK, twintubs were once as common as automatics were in America.

I have used a Hoover Auto Rinse and a Maytag A 50, off and on for years. The Tag is a lot of work because it lacks a spin rinse, but it is very quiet, while the Hoover is as loud as a vacuum cleaner, when spinning, and hard to take unless you have ear plugs, :'D

As for the TT's needing high speeds in order to be effective: That's just not true. The Easy spins at 900, and the load comes out remarkably dry. The reason Tags and Hooves spin so fast is to make drying feasible in their accompanying 110 volt dryers, which would take forever if they spun at, say 650. I have forgotten the speeds; once thought the Hoover was faster at about 2300, and the Tag at 2100. Will look it up and report later, unless Kevin has the manual and has quoted the Tag at 22.

Indeed, the very best advantage of these machine is when you really need an outfit in a hurry, and their nearly dry spinning ability makes drying then a snap in a standard dryer. As Mark says, you can drying time down to one-third. The outfit will be dry in about 10-15 minutes, a noteworthy feat.

I agree that for us, they are mainly toys because of their limited capacity.

But the amazing thing here is that this looks like a UK model if you scroll to the very end of the listing, he says it is from England. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MEANS? Of course you do: IT HEATS. How the heck did it get here?

The lid was, at first, a dead give-away, but I thought I was mistaken: how could we have the enviable heating Hoover over here.

Alas, the bidding's over and no one bid. This one Phil, would be worth having. Too bad, it's too late.


Post# 738586 , Reply# 24   3/1/2014 at 18:58 (3,695 days old) by dryclean1 (Walton, NY)        
info on the hoover twin tub

I usually collect wringer washers as a rule. A fellow I know had this neat machine in his back porch few years. I finally decided to buy it after getting interested by reading on the aw sight of which I just became a member a few days ago. Would someone tell me a little history of this unit. Mine has the controls inside in line over the tubs. It has a knob for the pump and one for the wash and timer and such. For some reason the pump knob does nothing. I just got it so I still have to clean it and take off the back to see what is what. Any info would be great! Thanks Dryclean1

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Post# 738620 , Reply# 25   3/1/2014 at 21:08 (3,695 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
mickeyd and dryclean1 -

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Mickeyd - Thank you for the explanations on the spinner. Sometimes I miss replies, like yours, and find them like today, much later. Apologies, as I appreciate the insights, opinions and comments of all. Interesting, spinners go back much earlier in the 1900's than I would have imagined.

Dryclean1 - you have a link in your posting - it goes nowhere; did you post a link to something?







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Post# 738660 , Reply# 26   3/2/2014 at 04:57 (3,694 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
For some reason the pump knob does nothing

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The pump knob controls a valve that sits between the wash tub and spinner and the pump. If you turn it to "Empty Tub" and lower the spinner lid it will activate the pump (and spinner) and the tub will empty. DO NOT do this when there are clothes in the spinner as you will bed up with a suds lock.


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