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POD 9/17/13 RCA WP 33" COMBO |
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Post# 703665 , Reply# 1   9/17/2013 at 11:54 (3,873 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)   |   | |
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Said: "Toss your clothes in and go." Not said: "And when you come back after 4 hours, they'll still be drying." |
Post# 703676 , Reply# 3   9/17/2013 at 12:49 (3,873 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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A dream machine for sure, the envy of "me" eye. Doubt that they'd make a genuinely, factually, verifiable claim like that, but who knows, Tom? Either the heater is on during the rinsing which would be interesting and impressive, or it's not.
The Webmaster must know. Let's ask him.
If it does indeed heat for the warm rinses, God, do I ever want one now!
Big Al told me the other day that these machines add water to two ballast tanks at spin time to balance the load and that you can hear the water flushing in. Pure Delerium. |
Post# 703694 , Reply# 5   9/17/2013 at 15:13 (3,873 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 703805 , Reply# 7   9/18/2013 at 02:40 (3,873 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Pneumatic clutches? Ballast tanks? Are we talking about WW2 submarines?
Is that what it took to get around Bendix patents? Which weren't all that and a bag of chips either. Ahh, the nostalgia value of the day when "RCA" was a name worth renting. IINM it even appears in 2001 A Space Odyssey. In the context of food slots, not laundry duos. Those had already been abandoned. I knew one family who had one. And wished they didn't. Not that that affects their collectability. They're still representative of an era, however impracticable. |
Post# 703808 , Reply# 8   9/18/2013 at 03:07 (3,873 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 703829 , Reply# 9   9/18/2013 at 06:57 (3,873 days old) by DaveAmKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 703860 , Reply# 10   9/18/2013 at 10:55 (3,872 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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The air driven clutching was late 50s-early 60s technology to give variable speed results from a transmission connected to a single speed motor that would, with advancements, be replaced with variable speed motors and eliminate the need for the transmission. |
Post# 703986 , Reply# 12   9/19/2013 at 02:09 (3,872 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Um, which Bendix patents are still used? Fluid shocks? True, W'house didn't have them. Mostly got by without. Didn't "damage" themselves when they ran wild, but did require internal resetting. That was my job when I was 8.
W'house also spun faster than Duo, and without a "transmission". Did Bendix really invent fluid damping? I mean, the concept. Not the application to laundry machines. I have a hard time working up a whole lot of respect for 'application' patents. Legal wheedling, not genuine innovation. The appliance industry is full of them. Even timer cycles can be patented, like spray rinses. Really? It's an "invention" to turn a water valve on? Legally, apparently. Not selling me. |
Post# 704021 , Reply# 14   9/19/2013 at 08:10 (3,871 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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The Bendix patents aren't used anymore, because patents last only 20 years, but the basic design Bendix did, with inner and outer drum and motor all supported by the suspension was back then the best thing since sliced bread. Many other combo's didn't catch on because they couldn't use that same design.
IIRC no other combo spun as fast as a combo, certainly not a Westinghouse. IIRC those spun only at 200rpm. Even modern frontloaders all around the world use that same design. I think that is very impressive. The guy who designed it was a genius. |
Post# 704133 , Reply# 15   9/19/2013 at 17:58 (3,871 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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No one has more fun making fun of admen than I do. But back in the more rhetorically restrained days of the 50's, conflate though they may, saying a washer would heat the rinse water if it did not just seemed too far flung to get by the editor, fact-checker, or whatever Soup nazi equivalent ran the show. My faith in the past remains unshattered.
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Post# 704181 , Reply# 16   9/20/2013 at 00:37 (3,871 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 704191 , Reply# 17   9/20/2013 at 02:08 (3,871 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 704192 , Reply# 18   9/20/2013 at 03:12 (3,871 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 704201 , Reply# 19   9/20/2013 at 05:37 (3,871 days old) by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio)   |   | |
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In the beginning Westinghouse had to pay Bendix a 5 cent royalty for every frontloader. |
Post# 704209 , Reply# 20   9/20/2013 at 06:35 (3,871 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 704372 , Reply# 22   9/21/2013 at 01:16 (3,870 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Already said "doesn't affect collectability". Or fun.
As stated I do have an agenda WRT application patents. They don't represent genuine invention, just a rearrangement of existing elements. And tend to be detrimental to the industry and their customers overall. That is only a VIEWPOINT on legal shenanigans. Has no bearing on the joy of discovery, restoration, owning or showing working classic machines. Not sure why one would think it did. Trying to backfill the LEGAL relationships among stuff made when I was 10yo, because it wouldn't have come to mind then and there was no internet to look it up on if it had. Thanks to those contributing insights. |
Post# 704532 , Reply# 24   9/21/2013 at 22:09 (3,869 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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From Mansfield, can't get much closer to the source than that. Thanks Jeff. Can you point me at the book?
I'd gladly pay for a DVD of Westinghouse (apparatus) sales films I watched as a kid if such thing existed. One was CSP for Me, animated short, maybe 8 minutes. The other was closer to 30min, tour of factory and testing. They're not found in the public archives. |