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Thread Number: 48687
Turqoise Maytag DG702 Dryer + TA702 |
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| Post# 705309 9/25/2013 at 16:10 (3,475 days old) by kowidge () | ||
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Wow, thats a lot of cash. CLICK HERE TO GO TO kowidge's LINK on eBay 
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Post# 705312 , Reply# 1 9/25/2013 at 16:18 (3,475 days old) by goatfarmer  (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 705313 , Reply# 2 9/25/2013 at 16:20 (3,475 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN) |
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Post# 705319 , Reply# 3 9/25/2013 at 16:53 (3,475 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) |
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This has been shown here before... | ||
| Post# 705383 , Reply# 4 9/25/2013 at 20:49 (3,474 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore) | ||
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enlighten me please this acronym has eluded me for too long..... I see it often enough but my brain must go on a coffee break when I see this one.... IIRC | ||
| Post# 705384 , Reply# 5 9/25/2013 at 20:50 (3,474 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
IIRC Means: | ||
| Post# 705387 , Reply# 6 9/25/2013 at 21:01 (3,474 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore) | ||
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enlighten me please this acronym has eluded me for too long..... I see it often enough but my brain must go on a coffee break when I see this one.... IIRC | ||
| Post# 705388 , Reply# 7 9/25/2013 at 21:06 (3,474 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore) | ||
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If i were Homer----- "DOH!" lol :-D Thanks Sandy!! | ||
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Post# 705413 , Reply# 8 9/25/2013 at 22:39 (3,474 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Turquoise Maytag's Cool set in a great color, but given that they not only need a complete repainting and likely a full rebuilding as well, I would not consider paying more than $200-400 for the pair.
Maytag's { and almost every other washer and dryer brand ] of this era need usually need a lot of work to put them in good condition, but the added problem with MTs of the mid 60s is you end up with very primitive machines that really don't work as well as most other brands from the same time period. The good thing about MTs is they are easier to find many parts for. | ||
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Post# 705418 , Reply# 9 9/25/2013 at 23:03 (3,474 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 705420 , Reply# 10 9/25/2013 at 23:26 (3,474 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) |
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Primitive?
Sigh...
I'm curious, John. What brings you to the conclusion that Maytag's are 'primitive' ? So basic in design that doing just about any repair is simpler than just about anything else out on the market at the time (or even now)? Such a simple design that the mechanism for washing or spinning is much less complicated than the competition? Draining and spinning at the same time to prevent the nasty stuff floating in the suds at the top from re depositing back on the clothes as evidenced by the typical nastiness I have to clean off of the inside of the tub cover and upper main tub with a putty knife on Whirlpool/Kenmores? Having tops and cabinets that, as a rule, hold up better over the years than the painted machines? I'm confused... RCD | ||
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Post# 705473 , Reply# 11 9/26/2013 at 12:46 (3,474 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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I'm Confused... Andy you hit the nail on the head, spin draining on a top loading washer with a perforated wash basket has always been a crude and primitive system. Anyone with any engineering experience can see why more dirt and floating lint will leave the basket with the water if the basket is stationary with the clothing floating in the water as it drains as apposed to having the basket trying to spin at the same time.
This is why that every manufacturer that ever made a TL perforated basket washer that had the capability of draining before spinning, did so, it just produces cleaner better rinsed clothing. The only machine that currently is sold in the US that does a spin drain drain is the SQ TLers and even though we sell these and feel that they are a good machine I would label them as crude and primitive is design and they diffidently do not perform as well overall as a WP built DD super capacity washer with a dual action agitator. | ||
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Post# 705478 , Reply# 12 9/26/2013 at 13:10 (3,474 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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I would label them as crude and primitive is design
Well there you go Andy... GOD has spoken.
We ALL know his word is ALWAYS the truth and should never, ever be questioned!
It's obvious to everyone else the all mighty Whirlpool is a far, far, far superior design to ANY and ALL other brands, makes, models, styles and designs of ANY clothes washing machine EVER created! (Not!) I beg you to open your eyes and see.
So now Andy, bow in the presences of the almighty Whirlpool and heed his word, or he will conjure a bolt of lightning to strike in your direction and ZOT you where you stand!
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Post# 705482 , Reply# 13 9/26/2013 at 13:41 (3,474 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN) |
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Post# 705484 , Reply# 14 9/26/2013 at 13:48 (3,474 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) |
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Ok, ok...
I'm not sure I'd go quite that far... Debate can be healthy as long as it can be civil and not just be an arbitrary opinion used to beat someone over the head.
I'm not sure about the engineering standpoint but from a just looking at it from experience standpoint, and the countless hours spent watching different washer designs fill, wash and spin/drain for both work and fun, I've seen some really nasty loads where there is just all sorts of unholy nastiness floating suspended in the suds at the top and the Maytag spins and drains so I see that stuff swirl away thru the spin basket holes and be drained away vs. watching the water drain down first and seeing that sudsy nightmare drop down with the water level, exiting the tub THRU THE CLOTHES. What sense does it make to work to wash the dirt, etc, out of the fabric to just put it back in? What is the use of a fancier agitator system when it is capable of redepositing soil? Kinda like designing a fancier doorknob while it still can't keep the door latched. At least the spin/drain machines have a better track record of keeping themselves cleaner. The swirl away action rinses the tub out even to the tub cover. The neutral drain machines leave all sorts of smelly, disgusting residue inside the outer tub up top near and even ON the tub cover. You, I'm sure, have had to do service calls where the customer complains of a foul, moldy smell and simply had to take a putty knife to scrape what I call the 'Kenmore Krud' off. If that's the mark of a 'sophisticated' design, I'll stay with my 'primative' Maytag (and similar spin/drain) system. I own both systems and have nice things to say about both but the neutral drain systems, as a rule, tend to be more complicated mechanically . More to wear, break and be fixed (sometimes expensively). Primitive. Sometimes it's just more efficient to use a club. Clean, simple and gets the job done without any repairs. To the club, anyway.... Lol! RCD | ||
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Post# 705587 , Reply# 15 9/27/2013 at 04:07 (3,473 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Maytags:
Don't understand Maytags being "primitive" aside from whatever technological elements, either... Other than what's been said & pointed out, in which case, then "It IS, what it IS!"...!
Otherwise, I would say this is the most advanced washers had ever come, in terms of the Temperature & Speed selections, ease of operation, & even workmanship out-doing the competition, if the product itself, in terms of aesthetics, tends to look humble & plain... The dryer to me is another story, w/ the lint-filter way in the back & crawling through that small door to get to it to empty it & it was nearly the late '70's before Maytag ever changed that design... But that nitpick aside, the dryers were nearly equally as good, along w/ whatever deficiencies the Halo of Heat design were admitted to having, hence a more conventional system being offered & the remaining industry standard for that brand... They're simply the '57 Chevrolet Bel Air or Kellogg's Corn Flakes of washers & dryers! -- Dave | ||
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Post# 705766 , Reply# 16 9/27/2013 at 19:19 (3,473 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0600-CST.)) |
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OH SHIT! Sound the air raid cycle signals John and Andy are bombing eachother again! The agitator missiles are flying between Reno and Beltsville. We're going to need some powerful DW's to douse the residual fires. CAREFUL GUYS! a few Powerfins and Surgilators just flew over Burnsville! I don't want to be collateral damage so I'm going to hide in a SQ equipped Laundromat. WK78 | ||
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Post# 705818 , Reply# 17 9/27/2013 at 22:46 (3,472 days old) by DaveAmKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Flames???? Quick, throw WATER on 'em!!!!
And don't forget WATER CONSUMPTION!
I think Maytag was one of the first to go from being at the mercy of where you set the timer to caring enough to devote three or four push-buttons to a metered fill (hence it's not the MORE washing time, the more WATER!) and hard to believe that a lot of machines such as Whirlpool & Kenmore would offer a timed fill (though on their bottom-most machines!)...! Right down to Maytags using the least amount of water, while offering reasonable capacity! (There I hope some WATER helped!) -- Dave | ||
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Post# 705824 , Reply# 18 9/27/2013 at 23:00 (3,472 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN) |
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Not to complicate matters here, but the BOL Maytag Highlanders used a timed fill all the way up until 1965. That said, Maytag WAS one of the first to offer a metered fill. It appeared in 1953 on the A2MP and used that damned finicky agitator float which activated a variable tension carriage in the lid with 3 mercury switches in it! | ||
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Post# 705879 , Reply# 19 9/28/2013 at 08:28 (3,472 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Metered Fill For the record Whirlpool NEVER made even a BOL automatic washer with timed fill from the beginning in 1947-NOW. And the majority of WP built AWs had infinite water level controls not a restrictive 3 or 4 push buttons, Maytag did see the light in the 1980s and start offering infinite WL control.
Maytag built VERY GOOD AWs over their first 40+ years of building Washers and Dryers, but they innovated very little, about the only feature they beat out everyone else on was the Electronically controlled dryness control on clothes dryers, other than this they tended to follow what others were doing.
If you want fun feature laden classic W&Ds there are least 5 or 6 brands that out did MT. | ||
| Post# 705891 , Reply# 20 9/28/2013 at 09:24 (3,472 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
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John:
"WP built AWs had infinite water level controls not a restrictive 3 or 4 push buttons"
John: All I can say here is that I have never felt restricted or deprived in any way while using a Maytag machine. My A806 has a enormous amount of real flexibility, while leaving off features that are sometimes more for the sake of merchandising than actual consumer need (Vari-Flex, anyone? And yes, I've owned a Lady K with the feature). Let's just figure that everyone likes wot they likes and enjoy the dialogue! | ||
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Post# 705897 , Reply# 21 9/28/2013 at 10:07 (3,472 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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ROTFLMAO . membership should triple- the humor is over the top.
My humble set of Maytags have been a huge joy to own, compared to the GE FL's we purchased new 7-8 years ago. Just sayin' - so efficient, fast and clothes get cleaner, with no attention to the mold/smell issue. Every machine has its own set of beauty of features- dd or bd aside. I better not say anything else - I stay awake thinking about enough already...like what other feature-ladened machines I'd enjoy owning, and they might not include the tol Maytags. Do the Europeans conduct washer/dryer wars, too? I better really stop here. | ||
| Post# 705985 , Reply# 24 9/28/2013 at 19:14 (3,472 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E) | ||
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The Strength of Maytag....
In my opinion, was that while they sometimes didn't offer as many features as some other brands, the features they did offer were backed up by elegantly simple, highly robust engineering. Owners were not burdened with lots of repairs on "gizmo" features.
There is no comparison between the bleach and softener dispensers on a Maytag and those on an upper-series Kenmore. Maytag used the simplest possible means to get the job done; Kenmore depended on solenoids and plumbing. Guess which system became the industry standard on top-loaders? It wasn't the one with the solenoids. That "small capacity dinosaur" of a dryer had a porcelain-finished drum long after competing makes went to paint. Maytag always gave you porcelain tops on their machines long after other makes started painting those too. And if Maytag didn't offer so much glitz at the top of the line, it offered some very solid value at the lower end. My first Maytag was an A208, one model off the BOL. My current machine is an A806, absolutely the TOL. The A208 had every feature the A806 has, with the sole exception of a console light. Even the A806's Delicate cycle had an ingenious counterpart in the 206's Fabric-Matic cycle, which did a damn nice job on some very delicate stuff while I owned it, including my late partner's surgical compression stockings, which are very easy to damage. And Maytags wash well in my experience - my A208 replaced an upper-MOL Whirly Design 2000 direct-drive machine. The difference in cleanliness after one wash was astounding, and it improved with subsequent washes. Anyone who says a 'Tag won't wash might want to try a different detergent or something.... If you don't like Maytags, you don't like them and there's nothing I can do to change that. But please don't try to make them sound like something Granny Clampett invented herself and had Jethro build in a shed out back of the cee-ment pond. | ||
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