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Turqoise Maytag DG702 Dryer + TA702
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Post# 705309   9/25/2013 at 16:10 (3,856 days old) by kowidge ()        

Wow, thats a lot of cash.

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Post# 705312 , Reply# 1   9/25/2013 at 16:18 (3,856 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I'm thinking the same thing, a lot of money! I'd be interested at about half that figure.

Post# 705313 , Reply# 2   9/25/2013 at 16:20 (3,856 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Yikes!!! is all I have to say.  


It's all about what the market will bear.  I wish them all the luck in the world.  I an certainly say that I don't need them at that price. (Not that I was looking)

Post# 705319 , Reply# 3   9/25/2013 at 16:53 (3,856 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
This has been shown here before...

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This has relisted multiple times with the price starting around $2500 and slowly dropping with each relist. The seller also checks in here, IIRC, to monitor comments...


Post# 705383 , Reply# 4   9/25/2013 at 20:49 (3,856 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        
enlighten me please

this acronym has eluded me for too long..... I see it often enough but my brain must go on a coffee break when I see this one.... IIRC

Post# 705384 , Reply# 5   9/25/2013 at 20:50 (3,856 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
IIRC Means:

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"If I Recall Correctly."

Post# 705387 , Reply# 6   9/25/2013 at 21:01 (3,856 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        
enlighten me please

this acronym has eluded me for too long..... I see it often enough but my brain must go on a coffee break when I see this one.... IIRC

Post# 705388 , Reply# 7   9/25/2013 at 21:06 (3,856 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        
If i were Homer----- "DOH!"

lol :-D

Thanks Sandy!!

Post# 705413 , Reply# 8   9/25/2013 at 22:39 (3,856 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Turquoise Maytag's

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Cool set in a great color, but given that they not only need a complete repainting and likely a full rebuilding as well, I would not consider paying more than $200-400 for the pair.


Maytag's { and almost every other washer and dryer brand ] of this era need usually need a lot of work to put them in good condition, but the added problem with MTs of the mid 60s is you end up with very primitive machines that really don't work as well as most other brands from the same time period. The good thing about MTs is they are easier to find many parts for.

Post# 705418 , Reply# 9   9/25/2013 at 23:03 (3,856 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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These turquoise Maytags are here in the Los Angeles area. It's nice to see he has come down $1000 since he first listed them. I will wait for him to come down another thousand dollars before I consider buying them.


Post# 705420 , Reply# 10   9/25/2013 at 23:26 (3,856 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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I'm curious, John. What brings you to the conclusion that Maytag's are 'primitive' ?

So basic in design that doing just about any repair is simpler than just about anything else out on the market at the time (or even now)? Such a simple design that the mechanism for washing or spinning is much less complicated than the competition? Draining and spinning at the same time to prevent the nasty stuff floating in the suds at the top from re depositing back on the clothes as evidenced by the typical nastiness I have to clean off of the inside of the tub cover and upper main tub with a putty knife on Whirlpool/Kenmores? Having tops and cabinets that, as a rule, hold up better over the years than the painted machines?

I'm confused...


Post# 705473 , Reply# 11   9/26/2013 at 12:46 (3,855 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
I'm Confused...

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Andy you hit the nail on the head, spin draining on a top loading washer with a perforated wash basket has always been a crude and primitive system. Anyone with any engineering experience can see why more dirt and floating lint will leave the basket with the water if the basket is stationary with the clothing floating in the water as it drains as apposed to having the basket trying to spin at the same time.


This is why that every manufacturer that ever made a TL perforated basket washer that had the capability of draining before spinning, did so, it just produces cleaner better rinsed clothing. The only machine that currently is sold in the US that does a spin drain drain is the SQ TLers and even though we sell these and feel that they are a good machine I would label them as crude and primitive is design and they diffidently do not perform as well overall  as a WP built DD super capacity washer with a dual action agitator.

Post# 705478 , Reply# 12   9/26/2013 at 13:10 (3,855 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
I would label them as crude and primitive is design

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Well there you go Andy... GOD has spoken.


We ALL know his word is ALWAYS the truth and should never, ever be questioned!  


It's obvious to everyone else the all mighty Whirlpool is a far, far, far superior design to ANY and ALL other brands, makes, models, styles and designs of ANY clothes washing machine EVER created!  (Not!)  I beg you to open your eyes and see.


So now Andy, bow in the presences of the almighty Whirlpool and heed his word, or he will conjure a bolt of lightning to strike in your direction and ZOT you where you stand!


Cool  Tongue out 

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Post# 705482 , Reply# 13   9/26/2013 at 13:41 (3,855 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Good Lord,


here we go AGAIN.....

Post# 705484 , Reply# 14   9/26/2013 at 13:48 (3,855 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Ok, ok...

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I'm not sure I'd go quite that far... Debate can be healthy as long as it can be civil and not just be an arbitrary opinion used to beat someone over the head.

I'm not sure about the engineering standpoint but from a just looking at it from experience standpoint, and the countless hours spent watching different washer designs fill, wash and spin/drain for both work and fun, I've seen some really nasty loads where there is just all sorts of unholy nastiness floating suspended in the suds at the top and the Maytag spins and drains so I see that stuff swirl away thru the spin basket holes and be drained away vs. watching the water drain down first and seeing that sudsy nightmare drop down with the water level, exiting the tub THRU THE CLOTHES. What sense does it make to work to wash the dirt, etc, out of the fabric to just put it back in? What is the use of a fancier agitator system when it is capable of redepositing soil? Kinda like designing a fancier doorknob while it still can't keep the door latched.

At least the spin/drain machines have a better track record of keeping themselves cleaner. The swirl away action rinses the tub out even to the tub cover. The neutral drain machines leave all sorts of smelly, disgusting residue inside the outer tub up top near and even ON the tub cover. You, I'm sure, have had to do service calls where the customer complains of a foul, moldy smell and simply had to take a putty knife to scrape what I call the 'Kenmore Krud' off. If that's the mark of a 'sophisticated' design, I'll stay with my 'primative' Maytag (and similar spin/drain) system.

I own both systems and have nice things to say about both but the neutral drain systems, as a rule, tend to be more complicated mechanically . More to wear, break and be fixed (sometimes expensively).

Primitive. Sometimes it's just more efficient to use a club. Clean, simple and gets the job done without any repairs. To the club, anyway.... Lol!


Post# 705587 , Reply# 15   9/27/2013 at 04:07 (3,854 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Don't understand Maytags being "primitive" aside from whatever technological elements, either... Other than what's been said & pointed out, in which case, then "It IS, what it IS!"...!

Otherwise, I would say this is the most advanced washers had ever come, in terms of the Temperature & Speed selections, ease of operation, & even workmanship out-doing the competition, if the product itself, in terms of aesthetics, tends to look humble & plain...

The dryer to me is another story, w/ the lint-filter way in the back & crawling through that small door to get to it to empty it & it was nearly the late '70's before Maytag ever changed that design...

But that nitpick aside, the dryers were nearly equally as good, along w/ whatever deficiencies the Halo of Heat design were admitted to having, hence a more conventional system being offered & the remaining industry standard for that brand...

They're simply the '57 Chevrolet Bel Air or Kellogg's Corn Flakes of washers & dryers!

-- Dave

Post# 705766 , Reply# 16   9/27/2013 at 19:19 (3,854 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
OH SHIT! Sound the air raid cycle signals

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John and Andy are bombing eachother again!  The agitator missiles are flying between Reno and Beltsville.   We're going to need some powerful DW's to douse the residual fires.  CAREFUL GUYS! a few Powerfins and Surgilators just flew over Burnsville!  I don't want to be collateral damage so I'm going to hide in a SQ equipped Laundromat.


Post# 705818 , Reply# 17   9/27/2013 at 22:46 (3,854 days old) by DaveAmKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
Flames???? Quick, throw WATER on 'em!!!!

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And don't forget WATER CONSUMPTION!

I think Maytag was one of the first to go from being at the mercy of where you set the timer to caring enough to devote three or four push-buttons to a metered fill (hence it's not the MORE washing time, the more WATER!) and hard to believe that a lot of machines such as Whirlpool & Kenmore would offer a timed fill (though on their bottom-most machines!)...!

Right down to Maytags using the least amount of water, while offering reasonable capacity!

(There I hope some WATER helped!)

-- Dave

Post# 705824 , Reply# 18   9/27/2013 at 23:00 (3,854 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Not to complicate matters here, but the BOL Maytag Highlanders used a timed fill all the way up until 1965.

That said, Maytag WAS one of the first to offer a metered fill.  It appeared in 1953 on the A2MP and used that damned finicky agitator float which activated a variable tension carriage in the lid with 3 mercury switches in it!

Post# 705879 , Reply# 19   9/28/2013 at 08:28 (3,853 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Metered Fill

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For the record Whirlpool NEVER made even a BOL automatic washer with timed fill from the beginning in 1947-NOW.  And the majority of WP built AWs had infinite water level controls not a restrictive 3 or 4 push buttons, Maytag did see the light in the 1980s and start offering infinite WL control.


Maytag built VERY GOOD AWs over their first 40+ years of building Washers and Dryers, but they innovated very little, about the only feature they beat out everyone else on was the Electronically controlled dryness control on clothes dryers, other than this they tended to follow what others were doing.


If you want fun feature laden classic W&Ds there are least 5 or 6 brands that out did MT.

Post# 705891 , Reply# 20   9/28/2013 at 09:24 (3,853 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        

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"WP built AWs had infinite water level controls not a restrictive 3 or 4 push buttons"


All I can say here is that I have never felt restricted or deprived in any way while using a Maytag machine. My A806 has a enormous amount of real flexibility, while leaving off features that are sometimes more for the sake of merchandising than actual consumer need (Vari-Flex, anyone? And yes, I've owned a Lady K with the feature).

Let's just figure that everyone likes wot they likes and enjoy the dialogue!

Post# 705897 , Reply# 21   9/28/2013 at 10:07 (3,853 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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ROTFLMAO . membership should triple- the humor is over the top.

My humble set of Maytags have been a huge joy to own, compared to the GE FL's we purchased new 7-8 years ago. Just sayin' - so efficient, fast and clothes get cleaner, with no attention to the mold/smell issue. Every machine has its own set of beauty of features- dd or bd aside. I better not say anything else - I stay awake thinking about enough what other feature-ladened machines I'd enjoy owning, and they might not include the tol Maytags.

Do the Europeans conduct washer/dryer wars, too? I better really stop here.

Post# 705923 , Reply# 22   9/28/2013 at 12:32 (3,853 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Yes Whirlpool/Kenmore always had metered fill, and also was the only manufacturer to have a perforated tub from the very first of their automatic washers. Maybe Blackstone did too??? If you watch the "sand test" commercial for Westinghouse tumbler washers, you'll notice all those top loaders were solid tub machines.If there were a Whirlpool/Kenmore washer in the mix, the outcome would have been different. Subtle for sure, but definetly slanted toward Westinghouse.

Post# 705978 , Reply# 23   9/28/2013 at 18:55 (3,853 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Maytag's spin/drain was a hold over from that awful AMP design that held sand between the inner and outer tubs. They were more right than they knew when they used the ad copy, "one tub for the clothes, one tub for the dirt" except that the sand commuted between the tubs. I remember when neighbors came home from a local beach and the mother ran the bathing suits through repeated warm rinses in the AMP and finally just hung them outside to dry to finally be able to get rid of the sand. She could have rinsed them in the tub and done better with sand disposal. Just like GE and others, when Maytag switched to a true perforated tub, they stayed with the original way of draining even though they did not need to throw water over a tub wall.

Blackstone actually had a solid tub that drained from the bottom when the transmission lifted the agitator during the neutral drain then spun the remaining water in the load over the top of the tub. That's why the tub wall had those criss-cross channels.

Whirlpool had to use the spray rinses to flush off the crap that settled onto the top of the load as the machine sat and drained.

If you have ever watched closely while a machine is spin draining, what is on top of the water quickly falls into the area near the agitator. That is why Speed Queen used a long floatation rinse at the end of the wash to get rid of that stuff. Frigidaire's overflow rinse at the end of the wash was not long enough to get rid of suds and the powerful currents of water coming up the tub walls during agitation actually held the suds on top of the water. With the advent of detergents so that the problem of soap curd was solved, the draining while tumbling of front loaders remains the best way to keep dirt off the laundered items and the heavier than water soil does tend to settle into the outer tub during tumbling.

For many years Maytag did not offer a wash 'n wear cycle with cooldown except on the push button TOL model and while they were early to offer two speed machines, you could not independently set wash and spin speeds until the 806 while other brands offered more flexibility much earlier and further down in the lineup. CU commented in the late 70s or early 80s that while many machines in the group they tested offered infinite water levels, Maytag stuck with set levels. Maytag did finally improve the agitation with the Power Fin agitator, but they were late to increase the machine's capacity and then not by much. The HOH dryers were small capacity dinosaurs into the 70s. All of the refusal to innovate finally caught up with Maytag. I'm not saying they were terrible machines, but for their storied dependability, customers did not get any state of the art features while they were state of the art. As an old service man told John and me, "A Maytag will never do anything to hurt or strain itself." They would wash for those families with stairstep children shown in their ads for lots of years and Maytag was a high-priced brand that many aspired to, but nothing is perfection down here, not even the W1926 and W1986 Mieles, but they come very close.

Post# 705985 , Reply# 24   9/28/2013 at 19:14 (3,853 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
The Strength of Maytag....

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In my opinion, was that while they sometimes didn't offer as many features as some other brands, the features they did offer were backed up by elegantly simple, highly robust engineering. Owners were not burdened with lots of repairs on "gizmo" features.

There is no comparison between the bleach and softener dispensers on a Maytag and those on an upper-series Kenmore. Maytag used the simplest possible means to get the job done; Kenmore depended on solenoids and plumbing. Guess which system became the industry standard on top-loaders? It wasn't the one with the solenoids.

That "small capacity dinosaur" of a dryer had a porcelain-finished drum long after competing makes went to paint. Maytag always gave you porcelain tops on their machines long after other makes started painting those too.

And if Maytag didn't offer so much glitz at the top of the line, it offered some very solid value at the lower end. My first Maytag was an A208, one model off the BOL. My current machine is an A806, absolutely the TOL. The A208 had every feature the A806 has, with the sole exception of a console light. Even the A806's Delicate cycle had an ingenious counterpart in the 206's Fabric-Matic cycle, which did a damn nice job on some very delicate stuff while I owned it, including my late partner's surgical compression stockings, which are very easy to damage.

And Maytags wash well in my experience - my A208 replaced an upper-MOL Whirly Design 2000 direct-drive machine. The difference in cleanliness after one wash was astounding, and it improved with subsequent washes. Anyone who says a 'Tag won't wash might want to try a different detergent or something....

If you don't like Maytags, you don't like them and there's nothing I can do to change that. But please don't try to make them sound like something Granny Clampett invented herself and had Jethro build in a shed out back of the cee-ment pond.

Post# 706078 , Reply# 25   9/29/2013 at 08:38 (3,852 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

GE kept their porcelain dryer drum longer than Maytag and GE did not use a galvanized drum in their bol dryers once they went to the porcelain drum, unlike Maytag.

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