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Post# 713527   11/6/2013 at 11:51 (3,823 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        

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I have to make a decision on a dishwasher this week...and though I was ready to go with a Bosch Ascenta, I was looking at Home Depot's website and now I'm considering this one since it still has a hard food disposer in addition to water filtering (see link).

Does anyone have experience with these new GEs? Unfortunately the manual doesn't indicate cycle sequences so I went to the support page on GEAppliances.com and sent a message asking about cycle sequencing...we'll see what I get!



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Post# 713535 , Reply# 1   11/6/2013 at 12:40 (3,823 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

I don't know how the GEs perform, but as long the Bosch has a full metall interior, go with the Bosch. If the Bosch has a plastic bottom tub, it wont matter which one as these Bosches are bad, really bad...

Post# 713547 , Reply# 2   11/6/2013 at 13:35 (3,823 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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GE GDF510PSDSS Review

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Post# 713548 , Reply# 3   11/6/2013 at 13:43 (3,823 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The GE (55 dB) is much noisier than the Bosch (50 dB). The difference of 5 dB means that the GE makes almost 4 x the noise of the Bosch.

Post# 713549 , Reply# 4   11/6/2013 at 13:49 (3,823 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

My suggestion (even though it got the Plastic bottom):

www.bestbuy.com/site/bosch-evolut...


Or maybe this one if you have no problem it being a outlet one and you are close to it:

www.searsoutlet.com/d/product_det...


Post# 713583 , Reply# 5   11/6/2013 at 18:50 (3,823 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        
Response from GE

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So here's my first response from GE:


On 11/06/13, GE Appliances Customer Service wrote:

Thank you for submitting your question to GE. Below is a summary of your request and our response.

Subject - GE Appliances Inquiry

Discussion Thread
Response Via Email (Geoff) 11/06/2013 04:15 PM

Dear Leonard,

Thank you for your inquiry. I need to do further research to provide you a complete and accurate response. I will respond to you as soon as possible.

Thank you,
Geoff

Customer By Web Form (Leonard) 11/06/2013 12:47 PM
I'm considering purchasing the GDF510PGDWW dishwasher. However, before I do, I'm interested in knowing more about how the cycles work. Like my current machine, the manual indicated how many fill/drains occur, but manuals for new machines do not include that. What I'm particularly interested in, is the number of complete fills and drains after the final wash. Is it possible to get that information this model?


Post# 713609 , Reply# 6   11/6/2013 at 21:25 (3,823 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)        
My personal suggestion..

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I like Bosch, I think there TOL, Well Designed, and made for real Cleaning. I mean, Real, Real, Non Pre Rinse, Cleaning. 

 

However, I don't consider this, to be worthy, or even bit useful, even coming spit out of my own mouth, to myself :P

 

 

My personal suggestion, is to go to Lowe's Instead, and purchase the Bosch, accept the free home delivery, everything, and enjoy it. Max it out for two weeks. Go Crazy :P Just, see if you like it.  But, if you don't, take it back. They'll give you every last penny back, NO QUESTIONS ASKED ;) Lowes, is just amazing with returns, AMAZING. No restocking fees, no crap, no BS. Just a full refund, for a two week dishwasher rental.

 

However, I'm honestly not sure, you'll be one to take it back.  Once you touch a German Engineered Product, see how the door handle, auto closes. See how well it washes, even how quiet, for even a Budget Model, I think you'll be surprised. 

 

Just try it, Give the O'l Bosch a Chance. Do it for me ;) 

 

I'm not a general fan of American appliances. I'm horrified of the idea, of some things that have been spit out recently by Whirpool & GE.  Look at those Belt Drive, Top Loaders, recently put out, now don't get me wrong, they were forced to redesign thanks to Department of Energy Requirements, but still, I could think, that they could be designed better. One truly wonders, if they were designed to fail on purpose, OR, if they were just forced to develop something as cheaply as physically possible in such a sort amount of time, that they didn't do as well as they could have. I don't know the facts, nor do I want to claim that I do. 

 

I'd always like to speculate, make my own theories, it's much more fun ;) 

 

 

 


Post# 713616 , Reply# 7   11/6/2013 at 23:16 (3,823 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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I find myself doing the same thing in regard to new appliance purchases. Always trying to nit pick what cycle does what with how much water/time/ect.

 

If I could make a polite recommendation I would go for a Maytag tall tub but one that still has the older point voyager wash mechanism that still has the food shredder plus the self cleaning fine filter. The motor to is a permanent split capacitor type that has decent power. I would avoid the newer resource save machines though, sine the filter is non self cleaning.

 

https://secure5.whirlpool.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=11262&initialSKU=MDB8949SBM


Post# 713619 , Reply# 8   11/6/2013 at 23:45 (3,823 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Well, in the Bosches all cycles (except the auto) are described in the manual, including water usage, cycle times and so on...

Post# 713657 , Reply# 9   11/7/2013 at 09:24 (3,823 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
@ henene

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Not even Miele gives proper cycle descriptions in the US...

Post# 713661 , Reply# 10   11/7/2013 at 09:54 (3,823 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        
Response from GE

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GE Responded to my question. So it sounds like it might be like my current Whirlpool - only the cycles with hi-temp wash, which is default on the pots&pans cycle, get two full rinses, otherwise it's a purge then rinse. Here's their response:
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Thank you for submitting your question to GE. Below is a summary of your request and our response.

Your GE Appliances Email Team

Subject - GE Appliances Inquiry

Discussion Thread
Response Via Email (Geoff) 11/07/2013 08:56 AM

Hello Leonard,

Here is what I found out in researching. “Normal” is the cycle many folks would normally use. It assumes normal soil level and normal inlet water temperature. The sensors are used to adjust the cycle. It would typically run with a prewash (1 fill and drain), a main wash (fill and drain) and two final rinses (2 fill and drain). The dishwasher has a combination of complete pump outs and partial pump outs which also varies.

There is not a set amount of fills and pump-outs. The dishwasher adjusts the cycle to the conditions to get great wash performance using the least amount of water and energy possible. The dishwasher has soil and temperature sensors and adjusts the cycle by adding or subtracting fills and heat as necessary to meet certain criteria.
I hope this will help you out in making your decision.

Geoff


Post# 713664 , Reply# 11   11/7/2013 at 10:01 (3,823 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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I am impressed that they responded with an answer tailored to your question, although I suppose you would like to have information about all the cycles.

 

It makes me wonder if I could get an answer from Whirlpool about their front load washer's temperature settings and spin speeds.


Post# 713667 , Reply# 12   11/7/2013 at 10:07 (3,823 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        
Give it a try

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I think you ought to ask them!


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