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Post# 731359   1/28/2014 at 20:34 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

You guys think it is worth the price

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Post# 731360 , Reply# 1   1/28/2014 at 20:39 (3,762 days old) by carmine (Detroit)        

I think this is the better deal in the Toledo area...

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Post# 731362 , Reply# 2   1/28/2014 at 20:45 (3,762 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Depends.

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It looks like a nice box, well taken-care-of. Since frost-free fridges can have issues after 15 or 20 years, and since they're harder to work on than regular fridges, I would get John combo52's opinion on how much fun these are - or aren't - to repair before proceeding.

This could run like new for a long time, it could have problems tomorrow. You just need to know more about the repairability of the machine before deciding to buy.

Ordinarily, I'd say the price was a bit high for a box of this age (I'm thinking around 1975 or so). But it does look to be in exceptionally high cosmetic condition, and cosmetic issues can be some of the most frustrating and expensive to fix.

Just do your homework.


Post# 731363 , Reply# 3   1/28/2014 at 20:45 (3,762 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        

I'm a fan of coppertone, and while I don't know anything about the mechanicals of this particular fridge, for a complete, operating, nice condition fridge, it doesn't seem a bad price. Depending on your use, is this frost free?


Post# 731364 , Reply# 4   1/28/2014 at 20:54 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

I have no clue if its frost free im looking for a daily driver that philco fridge is cool any thoughs on that guys

Post# 731365 , Reply# 5   1/28/2014 at 20:55 (3,762 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        

I like both those fridges-especially the GE,i recon it is ~1968,actually a lot like my 1980 GE fridge and basicly the same compressor,fans,etc -very reliable,but fan motors may be worn by now-no biggie,easy to replace.

Post# 731368 , Reply# 6   1/28/2014 at 21:02 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Why would the philco freezer door not shut tho

Post# 731369 , Reply# 7   1/28/2014 at 21:05 (3,762 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
cfz2882:

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If you're talking about the GE, it's several years later than 1968; the Ye Olde Fayke Woode Graine handles are the giveaway. GE used a plain black handle for several years, then changed the plastic inserts to the shambolic wood-look.

Post# 731373 , Reply# 8   1/28/2014 at 21:21 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

I like them both ge is to high tho right now to me

Post# 731378 , Reply# 9   1/28/2014 at 21:38 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

I see the philco has been posted on here before with the issue stated in the craigslist add i talked to carmnine who owns this beauty and we may be able to work sometime out.

Post# 731379 , Reply# 10   1/28/2014 at 22:00 (3,762 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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My aunt had the Philco back in the day. There was some sort of problem with the freezer (wonder if it is the same issue that carmine's has) and she traded it for something that looked very much like the GE! It ran for decades.

Post# 731381 , Reply# 11   1/28/2014 at 22:03 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

The ge is simple and easy to get parts for the philco is just plain cooler tho

Post# 731383 , Reply# 12   1/28/2014 at 22:09 (3,762 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)        

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I'd love to have the Philco, too, if I had room, liked side by sides, and liked avocado.

As it is, I hope you get it and enjoy!


Post# 731430 , Reply# 13   1/29/2014 at 06:10 (3,762 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Both are..

Frost Free...and that marks them off my list, too expensive to run and keep running, give me something with round corners and a latch LOL!

Post# 731455 , Reply# 14   1/29/2014 at 08:13 (3,762 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Perhaps John L. can expand on this (or anyone with similar experience) but he told me once long ago when we were discussing older frost-free units that if one changes the defrost timer to a programmable unit, energy use would go way down.  It is the defrost cycles that run (on some units) every few hours that consume the bulk of the energy in FF refrigerators/freezers.  Constant heating and re-cooling the unit.  Most units do not need to be defrosted as often as they are pre-programmed to from the factory.  This would largely depend on usage, climate, etc. but since most of us have climate controlled homes now, it wouldn't be unreasonable to think this would be a good idea.  

 

Also, changing the motor in the condenser fan to a more efficient DC replacement would save even more energy.  

 

I wandered through the refrigerator section of our huge appliance store yesterday and was blown away by the pricing of new units.  TOL units from Samsung and LG upwards of $3600 and built-in Sub Z & KitchenAid starting at $6800.  Average mid-line pricing was $2000+.  Wow.  I have a 2007 TOL KitchenAid counter depth 25 cu. ft. in my kitchen and paid less than $1400 on sale.

 

 Cabinet sizes were also shocking, some of these units were 36-38" deep and counter-depth models were few and far between. 


Post# 731465 , Reply# 15   1/29/2014 at 08:58 (3,762 days old) by ken (NYS)        
That GE

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looks almost identical to my parents 1977 Harvest Gold GE fridge. Though it must be older because our 77 has the ice cube tray holder hanging from the "ceiling" on the left side of the freezer. The first fridge I can recall was a white GE which I believe was a 68-69 model and had the ice cube tray storage like the Coppertone.

Anyway the point I wanted to make was my parents GE is still being used as the main fridge in the kitchen today. It has been in continuous use since 77 without any problems at all.

After reading past info posted here I think I should look into replacing the condenser & evaporator fans with more efficient DC type. And also look into reworking the defrost system to energize less frequently if acceptable to do so.

Some info concerning these changes would be greatly appreciated.


Post# 731528 , Reply# 16   1/29/2014 at 13:42 (3,762 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
different fan motors

Since the fan motors were worn on my 1980 GE fridge,i replaced them with ones that use less current-the small fans don't really use much current,but since I was changing them anyway...For the condenser fan,found one in my fan motor box rated (IIRc).13 amps VS .39 for the original-the replacement,a 1990 dated dump grab,turned the fan at around the same speed as original.The evap fan was a little more complicated-wanted to use a brushless DC:more for reduced heat given off VS shaded pole than the tiny amount of extra current usage of the shaded pole-I adapted a DC24v EBM papst 4-5/8""muffin" fan,mounting a small transformer by the condenser fan to power the DC fan.I added a switch to disable the auto defrost-a plexi window added to freezer back panel so evap can be checked for frost buildup and defrost activated as needed :)

Post# 731539 , Reply# 17   1/29/2014 at 14:02 (3,762 days old) by ken (NYS)        
cfz2882

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Do you use the '80 GE as your daily driver? How often do you normally defrost? And how many minutes does it usually take to defrost the evaporator?



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Post# 731598 , Reply# 18   1/29/2014 at 17:06 (3,762 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Offer them less for the coppertone GE, if you're interested. Somewhere closer to $100.00.

 

I'm not sure, but did the Philco use a spring inside the door, to assist with closing?


Post# 731620 , Reply# 19   1/29/2014 at 19:01 (3,762 days old) by carmine (Detroit)        

The Philco uses a spring-loaded Nylon cam arrangement to "snap" the door shut. Unfortunately, the cam got into the wrong position during a door removal and re-install. This cracked the Nylon cam.

With patience and the right glue, the cam could probably be fixed. I tried adding some magnets to the door seal (discretely) but there isn't a lot of steel to grab onto, the inner tub is plastic.

The ideal would be to find a new part. I've never looked.


Post# 731625 , Reply# 20   1/29/2014 at 19:11 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

I found this and hoped on it

Post# 731626 , Reply# 21   1/29/2014 at 19:12 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Money shot

Post# 731627 , Reply# 22   1/29/2014 at 19:12 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Again

Post# 731628 , Reply# 23   1/29/2014 at 19:13 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Third

Post# 731629 , Reply# 24   1/29/2014 at 19:18 (3,762 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Any body got a clue on year gonna pick it up tommrow night 50 bucks original owner pased away

Post# 731646 , Reply# 25   1/29/2014 at 20:23 (3,761 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

The first pictures is the GE with little " ICE & EASY" garage door for the ice trays.  The bucket that the trays was emptied into is still in the freezer door shelf.  Almost a miracle to keep this altogether for almost 40 years. alr


Post# 731647 , Reply# 26   1/29/2014 at 20:24 (3,761 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
Any body got a clue on year

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According to my GE Fridge Brochures it is a 1963 model. …….PAT COFFEY

Post# 731651 , Reply# 27   1/29/2014 at 20:38 (3,761 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Does she look loe a winner then

Post# 731712 , Reply# 28   1/30/2014 at 05:51 (3,761 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Your right here is a add from that year. You guys think this is the winner of the tgree. It will make a good daily driver

Post# 731833 , Reply# 29   1/30/2014 at 16:16 (3,761 days old) by epixstar128 (toledo)        

Does anyone know if these are frost free bye chance

Post# 731842 , Reply# 30   1/30/2014 at 17:47 (3,761 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
Does anyone know if these are frost free bye chance

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Some 1963 models were but I think your was one of the models that was not as I believe it would say Frostguard on it somewhere if it were. If you give e the model # I can look it up for you in my GE Fridge Brochures and tell you for sure…..PAT COFFEY

Post# 731906 , Reply# 31   1/30/2014 at 23:08 (3,760 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)        

Does it say 'Frost Guard' on the upper left trim panel on the refrigerator door? It looks like it might.

That is virtually the same fridge as my mid-1960s coppertone GE fridge that I use as my daily driver, and it works just great. They are clearly the same fridge, though my later version does not have the aluminum panel on the lower (freezer) door, has trim differences inside, and my swing out shelves are solid.

They are a great, solid, and heavy fridge!



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