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New Bosch D/W...it's a keeper! |
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Post# 733719   2/8/2014 at 13:03 (3,729 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Just finished second small load in the new Bosch...bought a low-end one (plastic base Ascentia) at Sears because it was available in white. They were having an installation rebate promotion (which I need to send in...). A little confusion on the installation--we crossed paths with the Sears installer on Tuesday and missed connections, so rescheduled for Thursday. The installer picks up the unit the day of (or day before) the installation and brings it with him to the house. He was right on time within the window he gave...actually quite pleased with him (received paperwork from his company so can use them again).
It claims to be a 50 dB unit, and I can believe it. All you really hear is the tinkling of the water dancing around the interior. The natural dry process (condensation on the sides of the tub) seems to actually work reasonably well. It is a little disconcerting to hear the drain pump cycle on a couple of times during the dry cycle (including for the last minute of the indicated drying time). The drain pump also cycles on for 30 seconds at the beginning of the cycle (I guess to drain off any last bits of water left from the loading). It is quite weird, though, to open the door, see condensation on the stainless door but have the dishes (at least crockery/glasses) dry. Looking forward to trying the 30 minute express wash to see how that does...I can see how it would be useful (given how unobtrusive the cycle is) to wash up prep dishes while you're sitting down to dinner. Going to have to learn the racking...there are several gauges of racks in multiple orientations in the top and bottom racks. Nice to see that the adjustable top rack (2 positions) in the top position accommodates all of our glasses as well as the french press which Brian uses. |
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Post# 733781 , Reply# 2   2/8/2014 at 15:54 (3,729 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 734068 , Reply# 4   2/9/2014 at 18:17 (3,728 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 734112 , Reply# 6   2/9/2014 at 20:26 (3,728 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Besides the frequently missing water softener (18 out of 52 currently offered models have one) and the water pocket, US Bosch dishwashers have different racks, weaker heating elements, use more water, don't have Zeolite drying and arn't as tighly wrapped in insulation and stainless steel as some European models are. Only the Thermador line has the 20-minute cycle with the water storage tank. |
Post# 734513 , Reply# 10   2/11/2014 at 15:05 (3,726 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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We, along with all our neighbors, had a whole house softener where I grew up in Ohio, where the water was fairly hard. There was a separate, unsoftened cold water line that ran to the kitchen sink so that we wouldn't drink the softened water, use it for cooking, or for the ice maker. Since many water softeners replace the calcium and magnesium ions with sodium ions, softened water contains a small but measurable amount of sodium, depending on the water's hardness. While it is not bad for most people, if you are on a sodium restricted diet, every little bit counts.
Where I live now in Philadelphia, the water is considered medium hard, and I know of nobody with a whole house water softener. |
Post# 734555 , Reply# 11   2/11/2014 at 18:38 (3,726 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Yeah, we have Detroit water which is perfectly fine, however there is a softener installed for the whole house; as well as a RO filter for a kitchen spigot. No clue why the previous owner put them in (actually I've never changed the RO system in the 7 years have been here; there's a test button which continues to show that all is well with the system). I do need to buy some softener salt (waiting for a sale) and dump it in the hopper. I wouldn't be bothered otherwise (although years ago we did have a neighbor who was a Culligan man), but it seems a shame not to use it since it's installed. Besides, we've got huge salt mines under the city, so it's not like the salt travels very far :)
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Post# 1140059 , Reply# 12   1/22/2022 at 09:22 (824 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Just a quick update---the Bosch D/W has been perfect. No problems whatever. On the topic of softeners--our water here in the US generally is far, far softer than in the EU (and if it's bad, people just have a whole-house softener). About a year after this I traveled to Luton, UK for a couple weeks of work and couldn't believe how miserably hard the water was. A six-month old electric kettle in the tea room was so encrusted w/lime I could not believe it. I've used an electric kettle here in the US for five years and it doesn't have a fraction of the scale.
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Post# 1140072 , Reply# 13   1/22/2022 at 11:25 (824 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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Detroit's water is sourced 60 miles north from Lake Huron at the same location as our water in Sarnia/Port Huron and it is piped downriver. It's an interesting read on how Flint's water problems started because they had been buying treated water wholesale from Detroit and then in a nutshell decided to build their own pipeline to the lake but during the process stopped using the Detroit source and in the meantime went back to using water from the Flint River, something like that anyways.
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Post# 1140106 , Reply# 14   1/22/2022 at 19:05 (824 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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