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Thread Number: 515
Youngstown 30" Dishwasher found! |
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Post# 49204 11/15/2004 at 10:51 (7,326 days old) by Jeff_adelphi  (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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Last Friday I went to repair a newer KM washer, when I was at the customers house they said they were having trouble removing an old dishwasher, and asked if I could help. They said they were ready to take a saw and cut it up to remove it. I could not belive what I saw when I went in the kitchen. A perfect Youngstown 30" Dishwasher!!! They had just bought the house from the original owner who said the Dishwasher was never used much. I told them I would be happy to remove the DW for them if I could have it, they said yes. I went back Sunday to remove it and it's now safe in my garage. I can't belive how lucky it was to find this dishwasher just in time to save it. More pictures will follow when I have time. Can't wait to hook it up and see how it works. Jeff 
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Post# 49205 , Reply# 1 11/15/2004 at 10:54 (7,326 days old) by Jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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| Post# 49206 , Reply# 2 11/15/2004 at 11:07 (7,326 days old) by jaxsunst () | ||
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Is that bar in the center something like a spray tube? | ||
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Post# 49207 , Reply# 3 11/15/2004 at 11:25 (7,326 days old) by Jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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Center spray tube.
Yes, this dishwasher has only a center spray tube much like the Frigidaire models. The early models were top loading and had a verticle spray tube in the center, they called it a " Jet-Tower". I have the installation booklet for this model and it was still called a Jet-Tower dishwasher even though the spray tube was turned on it's side. Jeff
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Post# 49208 , Reply# 4 11/15/2004 at 11:27 (7,326 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 49212 , Reply# 5 11/15/2004 at 12:11 (7,326 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Youngstown 30 | ||
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Post# 49217 , Reply# 7 11/15/2004 at 14:21 (7,326 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) |
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| Post# 49219 , Reply# 8 11/15/2004 at 14:37 (7,326 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado) | ||
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SAW? that beautiful machine? Who ever even entertained the notion of SAWING that DW should be SLAPPED upside the head. This is the only excuse I can think of for domestic violence. (just kidding...) | ||
| Post# 49223 , Reply# 9 11/15/2004 at 15:29 (7,326 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm) | ||
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Youngstown Beauty What a great find and save!!! Does this model sit on the counter top, or somewhat above floor level? Do you know the yom? congrats | ||
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Post# 49225 , Reply# 10 11/15/2004 at 16:15 (7,326 days old) by Jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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This dishwasher has only the center spray tube so all dishes in the lower rack must be placed so they can be washed from above. It does not have a built in water heating tank like the older models. But does have a heater in the tub. It has a solinoid in the door latch that releases the door at the end of the dry cycle. The door pops open about 2" to let the steam escape. This unit was installed under the counter, but the installation book shows it can also be installed on an optional 22" high base cabinet. This unit also has the optional drain pump kit so it does not need to plumbed to a gravity drain line, I'm very thankful for that. The motor is dated April 1958, and the owners said the house was built sometime that same year. Looking at the design of the motor and pump I think this is a much older design. Hope to hook it up to water and power soon and see what happens. I will post more pics soon. Jeff | ||
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Post# 49232 , Reply# 11 11/15/2004 at 19:40 (7,326 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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OMG, Jeff I'm speechless. You just solved another small piece of my childhood's puzzle. My parents began look at new houses in 1959. I vividly remember one house had a pink dishwasher with that exact 3-spoke "thing" on the door. And it was eye level for me at the time. So I was about 4 or 5 years old. I had always remembered that house just for the dishwasher, plus the fact I didn't like where my bedroom would have been. So,.... it must have been a Youngstown. Hooray!!! I believe taht is the absolute last unanswered puzzle of appliances in my childhood.
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| Post# 49234 , Reply# 12 11/15/2004 at 19:58 (7,326 days old) by jaxsunst () | ||
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Keep the pics coming! Love the door handle, it is sooooo 50's! | ||
| Post# 49237 , Reply# 13 11/15/2004 at 20:22 (7,326 days old) by gregm () | ||
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amazing never, ever seen one like that before, that is stunning, look at the shine on the porcelain, i cannot get over the condition, love the orange racks, what a rare and significant find, many congrads Jeff !!! | ||
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Post# 49242 , Reply# 14 11/15/2004 at 21:32 (7,326 days old) by SteveD (Guilderland, New York) |
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Cool! My aunt and uncle had this model, they had a Sholtz home built in 1957. Theirs was the fawn color that matched the rest of the cabinets. I replaced it with a new KDC-17 in 1973? (which she still uses). Somewhere I have the owners manual..... | ||
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Post# 49244 , Reply# 15 11/15/2004 at 21:57 (7,326 days old) by Jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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Motor and pump | ||
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Post# 49250 , Reply# 17 11/15/2004 at 22:30 (7,326 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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That's a wonderful find! | ||
| Post# 49252 , Reply# 18 11/15/2004 at 22:59 (7,326 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Congratulations Very Nice Jeff, you have to love those orange racks. Please do keep us posted on its progess. Did the owner know if it worked or not? | ||
| Post# 49257 , Reply# 19 11/16/2004 at 07:29 (7,325 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis) | ||
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VERY COOL! Did you have chills when you walked in and seen it? Kind of like static running up the back of your head!That's what always happens to me! Now you have to get mates! Bethann | ||
| Post# 49264 , Reply# 21 11/16/2004 at 10:01 (7,325 days old) by westie2 () | ||
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Try this link to History of Packard. They sold electric part to GM in 1932. CLICK HERE TO GO TO westie2's LINK | ||
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Post# 49275 , Reply# 23 11/16/2004 at 15:34 (7,325 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Unbelieveable
Jeff: Do you have a time machine hidden away somewhere???!!! Thats just too unbelieveable! I love that Packard Motor! I am guessing that the tower models used the same pump and motor?? Just beautiful!! I am struck by the apparent quality there. What is amazing is how far along Youngstown and ABC were with their appliances but they should have hooked up for sales. The Altorfer brothers told me that they knew after WWII it was pretty clear any company that wanted to compete for the appliance market had to go up against Frigidaire, and GE and that they would have had to offer a complete line of appliances for the home. The market changed after WWII you couldn't make it being good at only one thing anymore. SO if Youngstown teamed up with ABC and Crosley then they could have had a complete line of appliances to offer. It could have been called "Unified Appliances". And they might still have been around today. just my 2 cents jet | ||
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Post# 49277 , Reply# 24 11/16/2004 at 16:04 (7,325 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Unbelieveable | ||
| Post# 49292 , Reply# 25 11/16/2004 at 18:41 (7,325 days old) by 60skelvinator () | ||
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WOW!!! Great find! love that front panel! :) | ||
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Post# 49306 , Reply# 26 11/16/2004 at 20:02 (7,325 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) |
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Apparent quality Oh, this dishwasher was built like a tank. It was well built, not overly noisy, and my Aunt's ran until it died. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
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Post# 49427 , Reply# 27 11/18/2004 at 09:24 (7,323 days old) by Jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA) |
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Last night I tested the Youngstown with water, and except for a sticking drain valve that I was able to take apart and clean, It worked great and didn't leak a drop!!! Even the light behind the timer dial still worked. It's neat when the door pops open at the begining of the dry cycle and all the steam comes out. I will try to wash some dishes this weekend and see how it cleans. Jeff | ||
| Post# 49439 , Reply# 28 11/18/2004 at 13:39 (7,323 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA) | ||
WOW...A Dishasher that makes me want to do dishers...Remarka
HOW COOL... I have seen many dishwashers in my time all the way from our very first...a Whirlpool Portable Top-Load...all the way thru my current one which is a 1970's era General Electric Potscrubber...which washes anything I put in it and gets it perfect almost 98% of the time. What I like about this Jamestown model is that center rotary spray which looks like it would completly get all the dishes and cups equally. The racks are wider than todays models and look like it would hol all the normal use dishes I own..LOL And what's more what made ME wanna change for good was the fact that this model was not only a Packard Electric driven product and im partial to ANYTHING with a Packard connection even if it is in name...but the fact that this beautifully designed,well thought out model could be installed at WAIST height...and still do it's job. Now one of the most unpleasantest chores in loading conventional dishwashers is the constand bend and load, bend and load and I hate that. There are times and places for that and dishwashing just doesn't seem to fit in that category.LOL... I just love it....If any manufacturers around the globe are listening...as aparantly the USA ones are either led by product planners who got their Degrees by giving more than an apple to a teacher,or close to bankrupt, due to ridiculous,unfortunate buisness plans, or are managed by ignorant savants...will you please bring out a FULL-Sized model like this that is well made and will build in like the one on the POD!!! No one listened...maybe in my luck I will find one myself.... Anyway that's my thoughts..... WOW I want One!!! Happily Converted by Jamestown Chad | ||
| Post# 49442 , Reply# 29 11/18/2004 at 14:06 (7,323 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado) | ||
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Yo can have a 30 I understand that Dacor came out recently with a 30" dishwasher, although unlike the Youngstown, it cost MUCH more than a standard DW-Oops-just went to thier web site and no mention of any DW? Does anyone else know about this or am I simply hallucinating? Maybe it was another brand? | ||
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Post# 49445 , Reply# 30 11/18/2004 at 15:08 (7,323 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 49455 , Reply# 32 11/18/2004 at 17:33 (7,323 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Youngstown 30 | ||
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Post# 49456 , Reply# 33 11/18/2004 at 17:34 (7,323 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 49459 , Reply# 34 11/18/2004 at 18:12 (7,323 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis) | ||
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Stop it Gansky1 ! Are you trying to get Partycycle going again! | ||
| Post# 49463 , Reply# 35 11/18/2004 at 20:02 (7,323 days old) by partscounterman (Cortez, Colorado) | ||
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Stop it, Partycycle! I almost wet myself when I read your post. Too Funny! You may feel better if you took a sledgehammer to that dreadful frigelux and work out some of those tensions. May the dishwasher gods minister to your needs and provide your deepest desires (so you don't have to go through this trauma anymore!) | ||
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Post# 49465 , Reply# 36 11/18/2004 at 20:18 (7,323 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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