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"Open Door Policy with China" -er...., Korea: LG FL Wild Cherry Turbo Steam Dream, a Film by Denny
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Post# 747447   4/3/2014 at 22:47 (3,674 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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A Belated Winter Tale.

Two Winters ago before the tundra came, the only light to be seen in the small hamlet of Athol Springs was a dim glow coming from Mickey D's window in the very wee hours.
He was searching the “internets" for a combination washer dryer having caught the well-known winter disease of Combo Fever which he contracted from John of the same name.

After many nights of searching he gave up. Then Summer came and somebody posted a GE combo in the Purple Forum, but it was very pricey, much more than he had ever paid for one machine, but he could not get it out of his mind, so he called the seller offering him special delivery cash, thus acquiring the machine for a much lower price. When it came home, it was glorious except that it wouldn't dry. Front Load washing was like nothing he had ever seen before. Smitten and in love he wanted this new machine in perfect working order. So he tried to open it up as he had done successfully to his nearly matching GE top loader to Martinize the fill flume but he couldn't crack the Combo's frame.

Then, John came to the rescue and said, "All you need to do is pry off the chrome styling strip and reach in with a is a 5/16 hex on your ratchet to remove two screws and the top will lift right off. " And......Presto ! The top came off as easy as toast out of the toaster. And everything was clean and beautiful inside: no burnt wires, no shorted out terminals, or anything easily visible and fixable to get the combo to dry. Alas it was something beyond Michael's pay grade. But then the tundra came, freezing the garage, the combo; so all the machines were deplumbed and hibernated indefinitely, just in time before the Arctic freezing took hold in earnest.

Switching over to first person now. Thank you for the indulgence.

Then one day while recalling how many people among us lusted after those poppy red 1-18s while at the same time still dreadfully missing front loading, I happened to see a wild cherry LG in the local appliance emporium but it didn't have turbo wash, was only 440 bucks; yet, I still wouldn't bite, so I went online, finding a Turbo Wash Steam Machine on Amazon which claimed to have the ONLY one left in the United States. Who could resist such hype?

Not wanting it dropped off on the front porch, I called the local place back and told them about it and they said they could get it for me less than what it was listed for on Amazon and of course deliver and install it. Can't beat local dealers; they're the best.

Always remembered with great amusement when Malcolm said of Eugene “You took one for the team !" when he bought his Immersion Care and although I’d like to be in that league I'm not because I mainly bought this for myself. I'd like to have it forever, and whoever gets my machines when I croak will have the equivalent of the poppy red in another 25 to 30 years--although I should add in all fairness and honesty that the handsome young installer winked on his way out and said:"Don't use it too often!" Got a lot of yuks out of that one.

So….. Put on your tinfoil hats for best reception -- not to mention protection from an imminent alien invasion -- because this was filmed in high definition by my filmmaker friend Denny, and enjoy the show. Kindly refrain from any comments about my hairdo. Few things are more humbling than seeing yourself on screen. More than happy to answer any questions to which I have the answers.

Corrections: Meant to say: "Measure soap in tablespoons rather than CUPS." More corrections certain to follow. Give me a few minutes to load the flick.


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Post# 747448 , Reply# 1   4/3/2014 at 23:15 (3,674 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Corrections continued:

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"The fill eventually becomes like the Magic Minute in the Kelvinator where full agitation starts half way through the fill and continues as the machine reaches the cycle's level."

"If I let it fill all the to the Bulky level, I'd have to close the door because the water would spill out."


Post# 747453 , Reply# 2   4/4/2014 at 00:31 (3,674 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Congratulations, mickeyd! Your new LG is beautiful in both form and function. Thanks for giving us a video tour of how the machine goes about its duties. You know you're in the presence of someone who digs washers when there's a legal pad full of notes at the ready. Love that color, too.

I've steered a number of people to LG front-loaders and all have been very happy with them.


Post# 747457 , Reply# 3   4/4/2014 at 01:31 (3,674 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Mike good seeing you,what a fun video.

I was at my friends house where. I recommended 3 ..24 inch front loaders .

One was the LG because he has a small footprint in his home.

He had a Bosch which he suppose to have given me, but you know how that goes.

The machine you have is very similar to the his 24 inch behaves like.

 

I did 9 loads in it and it seems when it spins 

Its sensing the load then water starts.

I used the high water level button in most

loads. It seems about a inch more or so.

But the recirulation system really is very effective in satuating the drum and clothes.

I think all fronts should have this system instead of what Robert calls wetnap washing lol.

 

I beleave your machine goes a faster then 1200 RPM,S Check it again .

I might be wrong.

Anyway his machine went at 1300 RPM,S.

Since of the board awhile I have been cleaning up peoples washers, dishwashers ,and useing them which and showing members videos.

It has been the utmost fun in educating.

Here are some pics of his unit.

And a surprise for you I did some months ago.

 




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Post# 747458 , Reply# 4   4/4/2014 at 01:32 (3,674 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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2.


Post# 747460 , Reply# 5   4/4/2014 at 01:34 (3,674 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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3. Spraying on white laundry.


Post# 747461 , Reply# 6   4/4/2014 at 01:40 (3,674 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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It holds about 2 to 3 more pounds then the Bosch washer he still has the dryer which is nice it has revese tumbling and quiet. 

I dont think you can put your boot that high

On your current LG model lol.

 


Post# 747485 , Reply# 7   4/4/2014 at 06:02 (3,674 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Cool washer, great video!

Post# 747532 , Reply# 8   4/4/2014 at 08:16 (3,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That video was awesome!  I really love how much pure joy you have with your machines, and that you share that with us makes it even more fun.  


Post# 747536 , Reply# 9   4/4/2014 at 08:33 (3,674 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
That is one cool machine Mickeyd

So what is the model number on this machine ? I haven't seen a front loader use it's water the way this one does on a load of clothes.
Thanks for the video :)


Post# 747543 , Reply# 10   4/4/2014 at 09:01 (3,674 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Thanks

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I've always wanted to see how the LG's operate and you pretty much covered every detail.....Watching it do it's thing makes me want one.

Post# 747585 , Reply# 11   4/4/2014 at 12:57 (3,674 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Life is Good.

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Thank you, Sweet Gentlemen. I appreciate that and there will be much more later today. One section of the video had to be cut because there was no sound. In that scene, I added three huge, thick, multi-colored beach towels to the washer and some nice sudsy soap and kept changing the water level and it was really really cool. Sudsy blow bubbles and Niagara Falls. Even Denny a non-washer dude was all gaga. We'll reshoot it in a few weeks for "Wild Cherry 2."

So I asked him why we couldn't use it anyway adding music but he said would it be unacceptable with my jaw moving and hands pointing but no words. So what's wrong with that? ;'D

Darren, that picture of mine is just gorgeous. I don't know how you did it. The heightened color is glorious and I'm going to keep it, copy it and make wallpaper for the living room. Laughink.

Roscoe, the model number is WM3070H*A.


Post# 747617 , Reply# 12   4/4/2014 at 15:48 (3,674 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Mark & Roscoe ~

I was so curious too: you know we hear so many horror stories about water usage that you almost don't even want to buy a front loader. Indeed, and to the contrary, on the right side of the dial--permanent press, delicate, wool-- the LGl uses a ton of water. In fact, I almost overflowed the big basement utility sink the other day because I left the plug-in and came home to find the water right up to the top, thirty plus gallons! ... Holy cripes: how did this get by the water police?

But as Eugene has affirmed, on the main default cycle which on this machine is Cottons/Normal, the water use on the wash cycle is minimal; yet as he has proved it somehow works. The dropping of the laundry from a higher elevation in the tub makes me think of people pounding rocks in the creek or using a scrub board to clean the clothes: minimum water; maximum motion.


Post# 747658 , Reply# 13   4/4/2014 at 18:42 (3,674 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
Loved it!

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Great video. Good to see that the Atomizing Rinse is strong enough not to be blown all over the place during the spin. I wonder when LG will reduce the amount oft time the jet comes on. I know a guy on THS reported that his Wave Force did a shorter spray rinse after LG replaced his defective model with a newer unit with newer software.

Now you'll need to get one of these LG top loaders with Turbo Wash! :)


Post# 747682 , Reply# 14   4/4/2014 at 20:44 (3,674 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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It is very strange that a few of those cycles don't give times at all.

If I had this machine, I think I would probably use the bulky cycle for most everything. The turbo wash looks cool. I looked and there are a lot of different models of LG. Some of them don't have turbo wash, even though they have steam. So I guess this must the the TOL LG washer.


Post# 747696 , Reply# 15   4/4/2014 at 22:30 (3,673 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Alex & Mark

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Mark ~They DO give the times once the load is "sensed" and the wash begins. What I don't understand is why PP, Delicates, Hand-wash, and Bulky are preset regardless of load sensing. We'll find out sooner or later. Yeah, I love the turbo wash most of all--oh, and the spray rinse too. I use Speed Wash most often, but increase the Soil level to normal, adding 5 minutes to the the wash. So flexible. I like that cycle best because it's the only one that skips the wash spin, leaving some soap aroma in the clothes. After the making the flick, I used the PP & Delicate cycles for the first time, and can hardly wait to film and chat about them. "Water, Water, Everywhere!" -- "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" (Coleridge)

Alexander ~ Thank You. I had no clue that the Atomized Spray Rinse was so strong till I got the door part from LG and was able to observe the magic with the door open. The Spray goes everywhere and hits the back of the tub. During the last spray at 1200 rpms, you can almost feel the mist. And It was all so cool and delightful because I did know anything about this feature before buying the machine.

The local suppler said that no one ever orders this part and that it never breaks. GEE, I hope they don't find out what we're doing and make the part unavailable.

I have wanted the Top Loader ever since I saw the video of the Wave Force; it was like nothing I had ever seen even in the most dramatic moves of any vintage washer. But after the GE Combo, I got really hooked on front loaders. Please don't encourage me. Too many things need fixing around here, and I'm buying washers.




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Post# 747698 , Reply# 16   4/4/2014 at 22:44 (3,673 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Love it when the brain fires up !

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It just came to me: Bulky, Permanent Press, Delicate, and Hand Wash-Wool all use the maximum water level regardless of load size; hence, sensing is redundant, superfluous, unnecessary, or something cool like that ;'D That may be the reason why.

Those levels are between 4 and 5 gallons, exact measures to be determined shortly.




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Post# 747709 , Reply# 17   4/5/2014 at 00:18 (3,673 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        

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Welcome to the LG family, Mickeyd! I have a older LG washer(WM2050CW) which going to be 4 yrs old next week, and a few months back, acquired a upgraded matching dryer during a week long "black friday" sale at lowes, I could not pass it up for the price! (DLEX 2650W)
I love my LG's, and I know you will get full enjoyment out of yours! They are very entertaining! Thou, I have to ask you, what detergent(s) do you use in your LG?

and last, watched your older video"Dorthy street" video again. What a classic!(yes you have a accent)
Rich


Post# 747710 , Reply# 18   4/5/2014 at 00:41 (3,673 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I've always loved the way the LG machines look

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but I've worried about reliability and the FEAR that comes along with (if something does go wrong, how long will it take to actually get the machine fixed)....

But there are so many happy LG customers that perhaps they are pretty reliable. I may consider LG for my next front load washer, ESPECIALLY after seeing your video. I LOVE it...

I can say this, on my 9 year old Duet washer, the delicate cycle is the most BORING cycle EVER! Yes, it uses a lot of water but it doesn't do anything......It's like mostly a soak, with one drum rotate here and there. It's almost like it's too delicate.


Post# 747734 , Reply# 19   4/5/2014 at 08:20 (3,673 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Yes, Handwash on mine.. I call it Agitated Soak.

I wonder if that LG can do some of the tricks LGs are known for - like pressing two buttons at once and have it display the current temperature reading etc.


Post# 747737 , Reply# 20   4/5/2014 at 08:36 (3,673 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Mark-- I wouldn't be concerned about the reliability of LG washers. Consumer Reports ranks LG front-loaders as the most reliable brand, with only 6% needing a repair.

Samsung: 7%

Kenmore: 10% (this score has improved, probably because a higher percentage of Kenmores in use are now made by LG)

Whirlpool & Maytag: 12%

Frigidaire: 14%

GE: 15%

All these reliability stats are for front-loaders.






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Post# 747762 , Reply# 21   4/5/2014 at 10:26 (3,673 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
@Frigilux

So would the Electrolux brand fall under Frigidaire or are they with LG & Kenmore at a lower repair rate?

Post# 747786 , Reply# 22   4/5/2014 at 11:23 (3,673 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Morning, Guys

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Eugene ~ Was relieved to hear that you had been recommending LG's to your friends but didn't know why--now I do !
When the installer dude said don't use it often I just figured he was kidding or drank the modern front loaders don't work Kool-Aid.

Rich of Washington State ~ Nice to see you again; it's been a long time. Thank you and and it's good to be in any Family you're part of. As for detergents I've been using the usual Tide with bleach HE, Tide downy liquid and some Persil from a newly discover German store in the area. Persil smells awesome. This machine handles over sudsing very well. Maybe that's why they have the never-ending solemn high mass ritual for spinning. All of these start ups of spinning and tumbling compress all the subs. I've over-suds just a few times and it's fun to watch LG's suds disappearing act. Hey, my accent is getting better--or worse-- with age. LOL

Alex and Mark ~ the Hand Wash is a real snoozer on mine too. It does a half turn each way once a minute for about a half an hour. There is more agitation on delicates but I'll have to watch that one more closely because I've forgotten now. I'm kind of on stimulus overload with all the new cycles running around in my head.

Alex ~ Did a lot of button pressing on first getting the machine trying to abort the door lock and to increase the water level without changing the cycle but nothing happened. Will have to do more experimenting. Thanks for telling me about that; other ground work has been done. Nice. Washer people are everywhere.




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Post# 747850 , Reply# 23   4/5/2014 at 15:42 (3,673 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Roscoe62-- CR doesn't have enough data on Electrolux to make a judgment on that brand's reliability. I would venture a guess that Electrolux's reliability would fall within a couple of percentage points of Frigidaire.

Post# 747898 , Reply# 24   4/5/2014 at 18:51 (3,673 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I was reading once about

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water hammer noises from front load washers because they go on and off with water so much....

It would be nice if they somehow could build water hammer arresters into the machines.


Post# 752122 , Reply# 25   4/23/2014 at 12:15 (3,655 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
When the LG is doing the fill alternations ~

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The thump/tap/jerk is slight but comforting, but when the WP's or KM's are doing their 5 & 8 second sprays, you know somebody's home, and I really like it. KUSHHHHTT KABAAAAM.

 

Something interesting:  Before I left for Mohonk, I turned the taps off on the LG. Hot is one the wall valve; cold runs off the sink tap so I can control the temperature on that line, defeating the  automatic influx of Coldwater that fills the sump and flushes the dispensers no matter what cycle or  temperatures are selected. The colds's  coming in;  there's nothing you can do;  resistance is futile. Unless the cold line was installed on a faucet that gushes hot water straight in Such power, lol!

 

But to the point: When I got home I did a Sanitary Cycle forgetting to open the hot valve on the wall,  but  the sink was opened and set to hot. I thought I noticed less water in the tub but since this is the first use of the sanitary cycleI just accepted it. The clothes were doing their usual Frigilux tumble: meager water, lots of high tumbling and  and falling. 

 

Returning to the machine near the end of the heating and washing, suddenly a cool down started, but not the atomized spray but a full valve  addition of at least 2 gallons of water.  So I need to try the cycle again to see if this is the usual procedure orphed added all that water because it got cheated on the fill with the closed hot water valve.

 

The LG then tumbled in all this water for several minutes and the turbojets which had shut off before this procedure, remained off and  did not go back out until the full rinse. This machine continues to fascinate with so much variety variability in  what it does that maybe a permanent mapping of the cycles is impossible, because the behavior in any given cycle is subject to computer whim--I should probably say computer calculation--depending on load weight, temperature, valve pressure, sudsing, and who knows what else!

 

 




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Post# 752316 , Reply# 26   4/24/2014 at 07:37 (3,654 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Sanitary Cycle

My Duet did the same thing at the end of the washing on sanitary, it put a lot of cold water in the drum before spinning.

Post# 753059 , Reply# 27   4/27/2014 at 08:36 (3,651 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Forgot to ask you Mickeyd

How is the cleaning with your LG washer?
Tks


Post# 753228 , Reply# 28   4/27/2014 at 19:17 (3,651 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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One thing I have N E V E R liked about my Duet is the spinning.....It's only 1000 rpm at max (I think) which is still pretty fast, but it does take time to make up it's mind. But I don't think the entire final spin is nearly as long as this LG based on what you indicated. I hate that it takes these FL washers so long to go into the final spin. It's been this way for years with most FL washers. Sometimes, mine doesn't take too long to finally start spinning. Other times, it will stop and retry, EVEN if it should have kept going because the load wasn't unbalanced.

One other WEIRD thing I've noticed, the spin BETWEEN the rinses is not 1000 RPM, but the next one down from that (whatever that is), and occasionally, it will not ramp up to that speed like it's supposed to, but it will stay at the spin speed below the ramp up, until the rinse. I noticed this for about 3 years now.


Post# 753401 , Reply# 29   4/28/2014 at 11:37 (3,650 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Truth in Washink ;'D

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Hello Roscoe ~

 

The cleaning is about average on the regular cycles, while impressive and eye-opening on the long heated cycles especially if you increase the wash time by pressing the soil selector all the way to the top. 

 

With the low water level on the cotton regular default,  the items go to the top of the drum and then drop into a small puddle, gentle and okay, but the typical stains around here on the white T-shirts  of spaghetti sauce, Berry juices, mainly blue and Rasp, chocolate and wine don't all completely come out. 

 

But if I use either the heated cycles or the  sometimes higher level water cycles, they're gone , " where the mushrooms go; they're gone, they're gone, they're  gone."  Cool old ditty from childhood .


Post# 753444 , Reply# 30   4/28/2014 at 14:06 (3,650 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Hey Mick,
My LGs are similar to yours. I however was able to increase the water level on the WM2277 to just next to the door handle base. Mine does the same cold water.issue but increases wash time and really gets my wash sparkling. At a local used stores lot,there's another 2277 in black and a few white models to be tossed. I'm clearing out my Duets,my Affinities and both Easy Spinners only keeping an A 107 that works great bjt I need to install the new brake seal because the tub turns freely when it's agitating. It is the only automatic top loader I've had in years. It's a bigger capacity ,single speed FabricMatic with no bleach dispenser and no leaking oil. The interior walls of its cabinet had no residue on them anywhere.
The lgs spin flawlessly and lots faster then any other front loaders (not including my many Askos) I ever had or watched up clpse. One mpdel ,WM2487, has the interior drum lights. It was completely overhauled a couple of weeks ago and got a brand new tub,tub seals and barings. It was reasonably priced($350) for repair and I paid $0 for the tub . It is gorgeous and I just found its exact matching electric dryer. I'll be picking that up on Thursday. I'll need to order the stacking kit at HD. Best new front loaders ever.The only ones I never had nor saw on action are the Samsungs. Not very fond of the brand or design.




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Post# 753507 , Reply# 31   4/28/2014 at 18:19 (3,650 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
has the interior drum lights

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OH NO-- Did NOT know they came with interior lights. Well, this is going right back to the store. ;'D

 

Funny you should mention spin. I did a load of towel rags from washing all the windows, etc. Quite a big load, and I gave the machine another spin because the bulky cycle has a pre-set shorter slower spin. That sucker spun at 1200 for almost ten minutes, and the load was out of the dryer in less than 20 minutes. They really spin. 

 

You're getting great prices , Chuck,  on your washers--with lights. How nice!




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Post# 1098620 , Reply# 32   11/28/2020 at 23:31 (1,243 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Now I know why

my washer does what it does. There's a misconception that the spray into the bleach dispenser is weak when in actuality, it's quite strong. And that's with the door closed. I have the Kenmore Elite version. I couldn't believe how effective the wash cycle is. I can do a normal cycle as little as 26 minutes. And this is with accelawash active.


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