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1953 Maytag 101P AMP!!
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Post# 113547   3/5/2006 at 20:09 (6,626 days old) by westytoploader ()        

In its new home...wheels work perfectly for effortless gliding around the Studio!




Post# 113548 , Reply# 1   3/5/2006 at 20:10 (6,626 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Close-up of controls...1-speed machine with infinitely variable wash time up to 14 minutes!

Post# 113549 , Reply# 2   3/5/2006 at 20:11 (6,626 days old) by westytoploader ()        
The MINT lid...

Agitation and OOB switches move freely as well as the water level knob!

Post# 113550 , Reply# 3   3/5/2006 at 20:12 (6,626 days old) by westytoploader ()        
Inside the tub...

It has a RED BAKELITE GYRATATOR with a moveable diaphragm float cap!

Post# 113551 , Reply# 4   3/5/2006 at 20:13 (6,626 days old) by westytoploader ()        
Yet another surprise...

The agitator came out with little effort!!

Post# 113554 , Reply# 5   3/5/2006 at 20:23 (6,626 days old) by westytoploader ()        
Under the agitator...

Is the top of the transmission...this arrangement is found on all AMP's as well as Norge machines! After preliminary cleaning...needs some elbow grease to become completely grey again but looks good otherwise!

This AMP is in decent shape considering it's 53 years old, but will definitely need some TLC, however. There is some dust buildup and a tiny bit of grease on the combination clutch/pulley that I'll need to clean off, but other than that it looks good. I removed the dry-rotted external fill/drain hoses, and the 2-prong cord will need to be replaced as well before I even THINK about plugging it in. Also needs a new belt (though the current one is intact and flexible), and a good oiling/hot priming of the pump, though I turned the pulleys EVER SO SLIGHTLY and they move freely. I'll soon find out if any internal rubber plumbing needs to be replaced.

My guess is that this machine hasn't been used for at least 20-25 years. I hope whoever had it in the old house didn't try to turn it on and wreck the carbon seal on the pump...

--Austin


Post# 113557 , Reply# 6   3/5/2006 at 20:28 (6,626 days old) by bingwsguy (Binghamton NY)        

What a great, great find. Congrats! The agitator and tub look new....:)

Post# 113561 , Reply# 7   3/5/2006 at 20:41 (6,626 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow

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Austin that is ONE beautiful machine! My favorite Maytag of all. Can't wait for the wash video.

jon


Post# 113563 , Reply# 8   3/5/2006 at 20:46 (6,626 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Awesome machine---a fabulous addition to your collection and it is in great condition!

Post# 113565 , Reply# 9   3/5/2006 at 21:00 (6,626 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
What a Beauty

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Austin - CONGRATS! This is the crowning jewel of the Maytag line, and the machine is in such great cosmetic shape! Unbelievable that the bakelite agitator came out with little effort! I am so glad that you were able to grab up this jem. Can't wait for an update on the mechanicals and the workings of the machine!

Again - Congrats ~

Ben

BTW - glad to hear how much ease the 'Port-A-Washer' gave!



Post# 113571 , Reply# 10   3/5/2006 at 21:06 (6,626 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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What a great addition to your collection, Austin! I love the old Maytags with the water level control in the lid. It was an interesting idea. And is that a 14-minute wash I see? The vintage Maytags I've seen all had a max of 10 or 12 minutes. Cool! Looking forward to pics of it in action.

Post# 113573 , Reply# 11   3/5/2006 at 21:10 (6,626 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Austin:

WOW how awesome. I cannot wait to come see it. Wish I were closer to help you restore/clean it up. That red gyrator is way too cool.

I will be in Angelton the 31st of March thru April the 7th. Will try to come over sometimes.

Steve


Post# 113591 , Reply# 12   3/5/2006 at 22:42 (6,626 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Austin, Congratulations on such a wonderful machine. Such an important part of Maytag History has been saved. That red agitator is just beautiful. The machine looks to be in such good shape. Keep us posted with the progress. Terry

Post# 113593 , Reply# 13   3/5/2006 at 22:48 (6,626 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Woo-hoo

Now that is a catch.
Enjoy in good health.
Can't wait to see vidoes and get more details!


Post# 113595 , Reply# 14   3/5/2006 at 22:57 (6,626 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
1953 Maytag !!

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Hi Austin,
I love the AMP Maytag. It looks like it is in good condition.
Best Of Luck!!
Peter


Post# 113604 , Reply# 15   3/6/2006 at 00:47 (6,626 days old) by brettsomers ()        
LOVE those Maytags....

i am truly jealous. i cant wait to see it work. arent these old Maytags the easiest to fix of the old vintage automatics? hows the timer? pls do keep us posted. David

Post# 113609 , Reply# 16   3/6/2006 at 02:27 (6,626 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
That is a 1955 Maytag Austin.....

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before 1955 there was no back splash, the knobs were on the top of the cabinet like the early ABC-O-Matics.....that is awesome washer though congrats on yet another great find.

Post# 113613 , Reply# 17   3/6/2006 at 04:49 (6,626 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Decoration For Westy's Shed

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You know us gals can't help but want to redecorate!

Westy you need this to go above your newest gadget!

L.


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Post# 113614 , Reply# 18   3/6/2006 at 05:03 (6,626 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Red Agi

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Austin, congrats on another dream machine, most of us would have sold everything to have a collection like yours at your age,,,Well Done You!!!

The Red Agi looks like its brand new, its beautiful.

Do all Maytags have that short transmission??

What others machines have the shorter transmission??

Enjoy, Mike


Post# 113617 , Reply# 19   3/6/2006 at 06:06 (6,626 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

hi austin.....congratulations and good luck with the machine.....i know it will be great fun to watch......ross

Post# 113618 , Reply# 20   3/6/2006 at 06:10 (6,626 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
FANTASTIC

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HOW WONDERFUL.. know you will live it.. i have a 54 and wish i had a red agi like yours..so from mine to yours happy washing!!!!!

Post# 113621 , Reply# 21   3/6/2006 at 06:38 (6,626 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I just noticed the drive-shaft in panel #113554 is a *lo-mount* as expected in a MT.

May I ask for a pic of the underside of the agitator?


Post# 113626 , Reply# 22   3/6/2006 at 07:42 (6,626 days old) by gregm ()        
congrads

wow, great find and great shape, I can't believe that little post can drive that large agitator back and forth through water and clothing ......

Post# 113627 , Reply# 23   3/6/2006 at 07:47 (6,626 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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This is a real gem among Maytags, Austin. I have the brochure for this model - "The Supermatic" it's called. Red agitator and all, a very nice find indeed!

Post# 113644 , Reply# 24   3/6/2006 at 08:33 (6,626 days old) by designgeek ()        


That's quite a find there!

Okay, dumb questions dep't: I think I see the water temp control doesn't have a Cold setting, is that correct? Is it continually variable between Warm and Hot, or are those two distinct settings? Are the water level controls etc. under the lid electrical? and if so, where are the wires run? The round black button and the narrow black button under the lid: one of those is offbalance control?, which one is that, and what's the other one for? And do those switches under the lid also have the effect of being a safety interlock?



Post# 113648 , Reply# 25   3/6/2006 at 08:47 (6,626 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
YAY for Mint Machines

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Hi Austin, WOW you new Maytag look just MINT! Its in beautiful shape, put on a new cord, prime the pump with hot water and try 'em out. Let us know how it works.

Great pictures as always.


Post# 113651 , Reply# 26   3/6/2006 at 08:53 (6,626 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS)        

I think I can answer some of these ... no, there was no cold setting. Maytag felt that all items were to be rinsed in warm water (100 degrees, I think?). No, it's not variable between warm or hot; it's either warm OR hot. Hot was as hot as your tap provided and warm was 100 degrees.

The water level, float, and off balance switch were electrical within the lid and operate on a mercury-switch system.

The narrow black switch is the off-balance switch. When the tub goes off balance, the agitator strikes the switch and shuts off the power. The round button is the water level and the cap on the agitator rises as the water goes into the tub and when the right water level is reached, it trips the switch causing the agitator to start.

Did that help?

OH, BTW ... CONGRATULATIONS AUSTIN! I'm green with 101P envy!!! I'm very happy for you ... enjoy your Maytag 101P with the BEAUTIFUL red gyratator. The gyrafoam method of washing is great!


Post# 113658 , Reply# 27   3/6/2006 at 09:32 (6,626 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Love your new Maytag AMP Austin!! Congratulations! That bright red adgitator is just too cool for words! Great classic machine straight from the "Lone Star Land of Rust" LOL!

Post# 113662 , Reply# 28   3/6/2006 at 09:53 (6,626 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Great pictures...thanks for posting. One thing that has never been clear to me is how the different water levels worked with the floating agitator cap system.

Post# 113664 , Reply# 29   3/6/2006 at 10:07 (6,626 days old) by agiflow ()        

What a great treasure you have Austin!! Just goes to show how "The Dependable Automatics" truly lived up to that claim.

Post# 113689 , Reply# 30   3/6/2006 at 14:30 (6,625 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Rich

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Once you dailled the water level you wanted the dial changed the distance inside the lid the amount that the agitator cap had to move the mercury bulb switch so a high setting meant a large gap before the trip lever inside the lid pushed the mercury bulb to "on" or wash.
The agitator cap also rose and fell to different heights depending on how much water was in the tub, but the lid dial changed the sensitivity of the control system.

Does anyone know how to install the chrome cap on the bellows at the top of the agitator in case it comes off??
There is one and only one trick to that??

jet


Post# 113695 , Reply# 31   3/6/2006 at 15:10 (6,625 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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WOO HOO!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS AUSTIN!!!!! The Maytag looks fabulous!!!!

Post# 113699 , Reply# 32   3/6/2006 at 15:47 (6,625 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Austin, you are so lucky to have such a collection. I can't wait to see more pics once you have her up and running. Was 53 the last year of the red gyrator before Maytag switched to black?

Post# 113701 , Reply# 33   3/6/2006 at 16:07 (6,625 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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How purty! Congrats!

Post# 113781 , Reply# 34   3/6/2006 at 21:14 (6,625 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Autsin:

Did you run it yet? Want to know all the details.

You know How I love the Maytag's.

Steve


Post# 113787 , Reply# 35   3/6/2006 at 21:34 (6,625 days old) by westytoploader ()        
101P Update

Hi everyone,

I turned the machine on its side (however returned it to an upright position after initial cleaning...very HEAVY!), and so far I've been able to remove the badly worn belt (which is still available off of RepairClinic, however, my dad is going to check tomorrow with Granger) and clean the oil residue off of the clutch/pulley (so this one DOES have an oil clutch!), as well as the base. It's going to clean up even better than it is now; the motor is in great shape. I'm not going to do any more until the Maytag Repair-Master (eBay) and "AMP goodie bag" (thanks to a generous collector...:)) arrive...then I'll be able to replace the cord and water valve as well as remove the cabinet, so stay tuned :)

The cracked original cord is in dangerously bad shape, but I was extra-careful when I tried to get the motor to come to life (remember that I previously removed the belt). I first set the timer to "agitate", pulled it out, and plugged it in. Nothing. Tried it with the timer knob pushed in. Nothing. Also tried "Damp Dry" to see if the solenoid would snap, in both the in and out. Nothing. Hopefully this machine didn't die early and wasn't put in the closet because of this, and there's just a break in the cord somewhere. Will try again after replacing the cord and keep y'all posted.

--Austin


Post# 113794 , Reply# 36   3/6/2006 at 23:15 (6,625 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Austin, all has been said, but I'll add, congratulations young man!! You do Texas very proud!!!

Post# 113805 , Reply# 37   3/6/2006 at 23:45 (6,625 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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It sounds like a bad cord, do you see lights or hear the timer motor? I belive I read that the solenoid is wired through the start windings of the motor, unless the motor is running at top speed, the solenoid won't energize. Your belt is a 4L420, available at most hardware stores (Ace, Tru-Value, Hardware Hank) for around $7 - don't pay $25 on Repair Clinic!

Should the need arise, use a 5/8" dowel pressed up against the rubber top of the agitator, then snap the cap back on. In machines where the agitator is stuck, you can remove the rubber diaphram, pack the agitator column with snow or crushed ice until it is cupped over the top; stretch the diaphram over it and snap on the cap. The ice will melt and the cap will return to it's normal position. See Jon, there is a use for that KA 'pelican-head' ice chipper after all!!


Post# 113820 , Reply# 38   3/7/2006 at 02:54 (6,625 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Hey Austin!

I couldn't sleep tonite, and saw that you have gotten started on the AMP! Too cool. I remember Geoff Delp's machine acted the same way when Cory and I first came across it while it was still in KC. Sounds like a new cord is in order. The manual has also advised to check the merc switches in the lid. Robert still has photos from his AMP resto in his Yahoo photos, which shows the layout of the switches.

From what I've read, it appears that early machines, say Robert's amp, drew current for the brake solenoid right from the start windings on the motor. This in theory could cause the solenoid to pull enough current to labor the motor while starting. Later models (maybe starting with the 101P?), used an centrifugal switch in the motor that energized the brake solenoid after the motor had gotten to full speed.

Austin, enjoy the resto of this amazing machine. I myself am looking forward to the day I can begin work on an AMP! I guess I would first need to bring one home =)

Greg - I didn't know that you could use a regular v-belt in an AMP! The parts manuals call out for the same 2-11125 drive belt as Helical machines, but I can see where you wouldn't need the OEM belt to act as a clutch per-say on an AMP, and could use a regluar 4L belt. Thanks for the size!


Post# 113853 , Reply# 39   3/7/2006 at 09:36 (6,625 days old) by designgeek ()        

Very interesting mechanism!

A word of caution about those mercury switches. Check them to be sure all the mercury is in the glass bulb and it doesn't have any cracks or breakage. If you have a broken mercury switch, you have a more-or-less invisible toxic hazard to clean up and that should be done a) in a well-ventilated area, b) with appropriate safety gloves, goggles, and probably a respirator of some kind (not just a dust mask). And then c) the machine should be put through a couple of washes with no load but with sufficient detergent to whip up some suds, to be sure.

One could always bypass the mercury switches as per Swestoyz (and/or bypass all the wiring into the lid: shock hazard?) and then remove those components entirely and put them in an airtight display case.

Either way, you've got an interesting project there and it's going to turn out great.


Post# 113873 , Reply# 40   3/7/2006 at 11:52 (6,624 days old) by gmpayne (INDIANAPOLIS, IN)        

Nice machine Austin. I love my 55 Maytag AMP realy cleans well.

Post# 113883 , Reply# 41   3/7/2006 at 12:59 (6,624 days old) by spinout (Phoenix)        

I think the Mercury hazard (from the mercury switches) may have been overstated.

Mercury is a metal in its liquid form at room temperature and can be poisonous if you ingest it or inhale it in its vapor form--but that's not likely since it boils at about 365 deg. F, so first you would have to heat it. It will not harm you to handle it; but that is not recommended; still, you're not going to die or grow three heads, etc. (lol). Because it is very heavy it will sink in water and most other substances. It is not soluble in water and soap has no effect on it.

The main environmental concerns are groundwater contamination and ingestion by marine life, which is why the EPA doesn't want it in landfills, etc. Unless you are using it to smelt gold, make glass or some other industrial process, it's not likely that you're going to come into contact with it's vapors.

The bottom line: Be aware of its toxicity and pay attention to what you are doing, otherwise use ordinary precaution and will be fine. Any Mercury that has leaked will have sunk to the bottom and likely been thrown out and/or pumped out with the wash water.


Post# 113894 , Reply# 42   3/7/2006 at 15:42 (6,624 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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It's not the mercury that'll kill you; it's cooking with gas. ;)


veg


Post# 113921 , Reply# 43   3/7/2006 at 17:46 (6,624 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Now stop that paranoid nonsense! The mercury in the switches is SEALED and unless I purposely smash the mercury bulb with a hammer, there is NO possible way it would leak out. Maytag AMP's and quite a few Whirlpool/Kenmore machines used mercury switches without fail...

Post# 113946 , Reply# 44   3/7/2006 at 19:34 (6,624 days old) by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio)        
Do you remember?

There was a T.V. show called The Real McCoys(?) In one episode all the housewife's in the area went together to buy an automatic washer, I think this was the model ! It was kept in the McCoy kitchen and wheeled up to the sink. I think the story was Mrs. McCoy spent so much time and money entertaining the others when they were doing thier wash she could not get her work done so she went back to the wringer washer.

Post# 114009 , Reply# 45   3/8/2006 at 01:48 (6,624 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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I remember the "Real McCoy's" from when I was a youngster. I remember my mom loved that show. It also featured some classic actors, including "Gramps".

But I was too young to remember any of the plots - other than that most of the action seemed to take place in the ktichen.

That's a show that needs to come out on DVD.

Currently I'm enjoying a DVD six pack of all of the "Thin Man" movies. So far I'm though "After the Thin Man". Nice shots of San Francisco, and classic Packards, and the ice boxes keep on getting more elaborate, but so far no shots of washers. Somehow I think a Bendix would fit in quite nicely into one of those sets.



Post# 114064 , Reply# 46   3/8/2006 at 09:24 (6,624 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

I'm screening "What Ever Happened To Baby Jane" for a Bette Davis project at TCM and I noticed she has an early AMP in her kitchen.

Post# 115314 , Reply# 47   3/15/2006 at 00:45 (6,617 days old) by brettsomers ()        

any updates on the AMP?



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