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intage Roper gourmet 6 burner stove double oven/broiler - $200 (2501 Garey Ave., Pomona, CA )
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Post# 758028   5/18/2014 at 20:30 (3,630 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Post# 758070 , Reply# 1   5/19/2014 at 06:01 (3,629 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
That Looks Like....

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The same range seen in Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds. The one in the movie is green, and I've never been able to discover if it was a factory color or if it was custom-painted; Hitchcock did stuff like that a lot:

Post# 758078 , Reply# 2   5/19/2014 at 08:31 (3,629 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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You must have all the appliance props memorized. LOL! Clock looks bigger in movie set stove.

Blackbird pie on stove?


Post# 758087 , Reply# 3   5/19/2014 at 09:51 (3,629 days old) by ken (NYS)        

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I think the burner placement is different on the one in the movie still.

Post# 758101 , Reply# 4   5/19/2014 at 11:43 (3,629 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Well....

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....Very similar. I think the burner placement is different, now that I look closely .

On the clock, I think the difference in the background color is what's making the clock look so different. I do not know if the black background seen on the range from The Birds and the light background seen on the CL range represent a production variation, or if the black simply wore away on the CL range.

I just wish I could get to the bottom of the green color seen on the movie range. The Birds was begun in '62, for 1963 release, and that's a good five years too early for Avocado, which is what the movie range appears to be.

Since colors sometimes photographed very differently from their true shade in the Eastmancolor process (though not as bad as Technicolor), I have wondered if Roper was offering some shade of green that just happened to turn out looking for all the world like Avocado.

On the other hand, Hitchcock used color a lot to create relationships between characters, and green figures heavily in The Birds. He could have just ordered the range sprayed green for that reason, never dreaming that appliance manufacturers would someday offer just that color.


Post# 758111 , Reply# 5   5/19/2014 at 12:39 (3,629 days old) by ken (NYS)        

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Shoot Rod Taylor an email and ask him.

Post# 758113 , Reply# 6   5/19/2014 at 12:49 (3,629 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Inspiring Avocado-heads want to know!

Actually, Sandy...i didn't know those details about Hitchcock and color - as I think of everything he did was mostly black and white...but of course, he did color film and it's interesting to note that he had set colors incorporated into the script for foreshadowing or whatever else. Hmm.


Post# 758114 , Reply# 7   5/19/2014 at 12:52 (3,629 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Ken:

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I think you're joking, but just in case:

Actors usually have no idea what goes into the sets they're acting on - it's just not their job. They usually see sets for the first time on the day they're shooting on them, or perhaps a day or two before. Their acting skill, and a little rehearsal, is what makes them look like they've lived on the set forever.

I do hopefully have a trip coming up to the Academy to research some issues with The Birds, as well as another Hitchcock movie, and perhaps there's an answer there. But it's going to be something in the set drawings, or some correspondence between Hitchcock and Robert Boyle, who designed the sets, or George Milo, who was the "set decorator," meaning the person who chose the furnishings, decorative objects, etc.

Hopefully, someone left a memo or other indication about this, because all of these men are, as they say, No Longer With Us.


Post# 758118 , Reply# 8   5/19/2014 at 13:14 (3,629 days old) by ken (NYS)        
Sandy:

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Yes, I was joking. But I knew Rod was still with us so thats why I said that. Come to think of it Tippi Hedren is still with us too.

Post# 758123 , Reply# 9   5/19/2014 at 13:25 (3,629 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Ken:

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You would not believe how difficult it was to contact Miss Hedren with a question about Marnie, her second film for Hitchcock. She was quite gracious about answering once contact was established, but it took going through intermediaries. Take it from someone who writes - famous actors are pretty doggone protected, LOL.


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