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Thread Number: 53463
New Maytag dishwashers are now live on website |
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| Post# 758366 5/20/2014 at 13:09 (3,628 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
Maytag has officially released the new DW models. I'm eager to see what reviews they pull in and learn more about how they work.
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Post# 758380 , Reply# 1 5/20/2014 at 14:25 (3,628 days old) by Frigilux  (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 758383 , Reply# 2 5/20/2014 at 14:37 (3,628 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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My biggest curiosity is whether or not the arms alternate. There is no Top Rack Only cycle that I could see, and the manual says nothing about it, nor gives a note about the sound it makes like they put into the WP/KM/KA manuals. The motor system it shows in the pictures looks like the Eco-Filter model WPs, but the tub grate and arm look like a Point Voyager. And I'm like you, I'd like to see them rated highly. It seems the WP is making Maytag into the luxury/premium version of their products along with Kitchen-Aid.
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| Post# 758397 , Reply# 3 5/20/2014 at 15:42 (3,628 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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A lot of the models on the web site say they feature the industries most powerful motor1. I don't know what motor1 is, but does anyone know what power these motors are rated to have and is it true that no other dishwasher is being sold with a motor this powerful? | ||
| Post# 758425 , Reply# 4 5/20/2014 at 17:41 (3,628 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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I don't know for certain yet, but it looks to me like the motor is the same as it was in the Point Voyager WP/MT/KA models, and those are pretty big motors. Seeing as the motors in the new WP filter design are basically glorified magnetic drain pumps, the same applying to other manufacturers such as Bosch, LG, and GE with the tiny motors they put on their DWs, this motor doesn't have to do much to put out more power and volume.
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Post# 758448 , Reply# 5 5/20/2014 at 19:29 (3,628 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 758450 , Reply# 6 5/20/2014 at 19:35 (3,628 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Eugene 47 dB for TOL MDB8969!! | ||
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Post# 758473 , Reply# 7 5/20/2014 at 21:28 (3,628 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 758509 , Reply# 8 5/20/2014 at 23:21 (3,628 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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My MDB4709 is rated at 57dB, and you have to be down next to it to even hear it. I'm the same way appnut, I need to hear a low hum and the gentle muffled sound of water cascading around the inside or I'm not satisfied. Our kitchen is open to the living room with only a bar separating them, and even we forget it's on while watching TV or a movie. Those that think 47-50dB is too noisy either have supersonic hearing or they're literally sleeping under the machine.
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| Post# 758529 , Reply# 9 5/21/2014 at 04:13 (3,628 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
The dB scale doesn't readily reprensent what is 'noisy' from what is not. For one thing, dB does not consider how annoying a sound can be. 50dB of random noise is equivalent of a normal office or a quiet stream. Which of those two is likely to be called 'more annoying/stressful'?
dB also does not consider whether the sound is broadband or one concentrated sound. Dishwasher noise is broadband. A single note at 50dB like a roomate practicing saxophone behind a closed door is likely to be much more annoying. The number doesn't tell everything. CLICK HERE TO GO TO arbilab's LINK | ||
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Post# 758531 , Reply# 10 5/21/2014 at 05:14 (3,628 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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There's very little variation of features between models. Basically height-adjustable top rack, minor racking variations, and noise level are about the only differences. It's nice to have a U.S. produced model with a time remaining digital display on the front panel of some models rather than simply offering that only on concealed control models--what good is that--you can't see a thing to monitor progress or time remaining.
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Post# 758535 , Reply# 11 5/21/2014 at 05:23 (3,628 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Hi Bob! I missed the stats for Maytag's new TOL. Thanks for providing that info.
I take any db rating with a grain of salt. Remember when some top-loaders claiming "18-lb. capacity" would be doing well to hold 14-15 lbs. in the real world? My former dishwasher, an LG, was rated at 45, but the average when read 24 inches in front of the machine with a decibel meter would be 47-48 db. It was actually noisiest while draining. The Maytag that preceded it went well into the 50s, and the main wash showed a bump/peak when the detergent dispenser lid would pop open. The GE PDT750 is much quieter overall, especially when filling and draining---two points in a cycle when db's tend to be higher and, as Rick pointed out, the sound quality is more annoying or at least noticeable. Machines also drain and fill several times, so it's a repeated issue during the cycle. Personally, I want a dishwasher to be as silent as possible. I trust it's doing its job. I spend hours in the kitchen with the machine running one load after another, so I love the super-quiet GE. Alternate rack washing: I have no problem with the concept, and the three dishwashers I've had that use that system (Frigidaire, LG, and GE) all cleaned well. Plus, I tend to use the top/bottom rack only option frequently; others may not. | ||
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Post# 758598 , Reply# 12 5/21/2014 at 12:14 (3,627 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Just checked searspartsdirect.com and these Maytags wash both seem to wash both racks at once. The first picture is Whirlpool's set-up with part 16 being the "diffuser" to guide water to either the upper or laowr rack . Picture two is Maytag's set-up, which is lacking the diffusor. The third picture is Whirlpool's wash pump. | ||
| Post# 758785 , Reply# 13 5/22/2014 at 00:42 (3,627 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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Those diagrams are really cool. I can't believe how wimpy the new motor is on the WPs. They look no bigger than drain pumps.
It seems like this new design is a hybrid between the Point Voyager and the new resource saver design. I wonder how the soil particles are handled. In the PV they're held in the accumulator and purged out, but here it seems once the water passes through the blades it goes straight to the wash arms. | ||
| Post# 758883 , Reply# 14 5/22/2014 at 11:52 (3,627 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 758890 , Reply# 15 5/22/2014 at 12:27 (3,626 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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Just the name of the wash system of the tall tub designs prior to the new filter-styles. Just as the dishwasher before the tall tubs was the PowerClean module, and before that the DuraWash I believe. The Maytags that are being replaced by this new design used the PV design, but just with a slightly different lower arm. The new design seems to bring together designs from both the new filter-design and the older models.
The first picture is the WP Point Voyager design, the second is the Maytag version, and the third is the pump system diagram. You'll notice that everything in the first and second pictures are basically identical aside from a few aesthetics, like the lower arm and grate pattern. | ||
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Post# 758897 , Reply# 16 5/22/2014 at 12:38 (3,626 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 759057 , Reply# 17 5/23/2014 at 06:27 (3,626 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Ok thanks - | ||
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