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POD 3/13: Philco 1958?
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Post# 114895   3/13/2006 at 10:59 (6,619 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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I am in lust for this Philco set! Judging from the cabinet design, is this the last Philco oscillating agitator desgin before they introduced the Automagic? So this would be a 1958 model? Anyone know fo sho?




Post# 114916 , Reply# 1   3/13/2006 at 11:32 (6,619 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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1958 it is!

Post# 114926 , Reply# 2   3/13/2006 at 11:58 (6,619 days old) by agiflow ()        

Peter, i thought the same thing looking at this machine. I would love to have one of the old agitator Philcos.
BTW, to Peter or Robert or anyone, was the agitator in this POD washer very similar to the recent twin wringer washers we have seen from Dexter?


Post# 114954 , Reply# 3   3/13/2006 at 14:02 (6,619 days old) by tlee618 ()        

I have to agree with all of you this would be a wonder machine to have. I don't think I have ever seen this model before. You have to love that dryer door!! Terry

Post# 114978 , Reply# 4   3/13/2006 at 16:19 (6,618 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
ditto all

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I'd love to see it. Wonder if anyone in the club has that agitator.

Agi, Did Dexter evolve from Philco?


Post# 114983 , Reply# 5   3/13/2006 at 16:35 (6,618 days old) by agiflow ()        
mickeyd

I am not sure if these 2 companies were the same or not. I ask because a member here a while back had found an agitator Philco and the agi in it looked very much the same as what the Dexter wringers used.

Post# 115024 , Reply# 6   3/13/2006 at 19:49 (6,618 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The conttrol panel design and style is soo very reminiscent of the 1957 or 1958 Speed Queen washer & dryer Eddie has in Canada.

Post# 115159 , Reply# 7   3/14/2006 at 09:12 (6,618 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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I think this is a chicken or egg story, as both Dexter and Philco had wringers. I have a feeling that Dexter was the original wringer company, and Philco sourced wringers from them. However, Philco was ahead of the game in the automation department, and Dexter ended up sourcing their automatics from them. Dexter faded away as they never had much market share, but then resurfaced with the remnants of the Philco-Bexdix commercial hardmount washers, and took off in the coin-op world.

Post# 115175 , Reply# 8   3/14/2006 at 11:21 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Peter, I agree with you, Dexter and Philco seem to be kind of ambiguous with both their wringers and their automatics. This is my Dexter Automatic, which is the mechanical twin to a Philco Automagic. I believe that this is a 1959 Dexter judging from the dates stamped on the inside panels......Its still kind of a cloudy to me whether this is a Philco design with a Dexter name on it, or a Dexter design with a Philco name on it.......I tend to go with the latter, that Dexter made it and badge engineered the Philco name on it....Or could Bendix have had something to do with it too? Either way its a fabulous machine to watch..........!!!

Post# 115176 , Reply# 9   3/14/2006 at 11:22 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Dexter controls........

Post# 115177 , Reply# 10   3/14/2006 at 11:22 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Logo and Water Saver..........

Post# 115178 , Reply# 11   3/14/2006 at 11:23 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Fabric Formula Selector buttons........

Post# 115180 , Reply# 12   3/14/2006 at 11:24 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Dexter timer.......and coat of arms logo.......

Post# 115181 , Reply# 13   3/14/2006 at 11:24 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Front chrome Dexter emblem......

Post# 115182 , Reply# 14   3/14/2006 at 11:25 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Dexter tub........

Post# 115183 , Reply# 15   3/14/2006 at 11:26 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Dexter Lint Filter....

Post# 115184 , Reply# 16   3/14/2006 at 11:26 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Top of Filter with built in Fabric Softener Dispenser

Post# 115186 , Reply# 17   3/14/2006 at 11:27 (6,618 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Lid instructions......

Post# 115212 , Reply# 18   3/14/2006 at 13:17 (6,618 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Jimmy,

You were so lucky to find that rare gem. I think it is funny that the 'short cycle' appears to take the same total amount of time as the 'standard cycle' and that the only short thing about it is the 3 minutes of wash time. How is the short cycle short?

-ph


Post# 115289 , Reply# 19   3/14/2006 at 22:03 (6,617 days old) by scott55405 ()        

Cool machine Jimmy! I was also fascinated to see that POD yesterday.

Post# 115321 , Reply# 20   3/15/2006 at 01:39 (6,617 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Wow Jimmy!! Beautiful.

Post# 115367 , Reply# 21   3/15/2006 at 08:45 (6,617 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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Wow! Never seen a Dexter automatic before.

Nice control panel. How do the Fabric Formula buttons work?

And don't you love the term "Fabric Formula"??

veg


Post# 115370 , Reply# 22   3/15/2006 at 08:49 (6,617 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Hey Veg, I absolutely love this washer. To get an idea of how the buttons work, look at the picture of the lid instructions. The buttons control the speed and water temp according to the "Fabric Formula"!!!!

Post# 115455 , Reply# 23   3/15/2006 at 20:39 (6,616 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Nice machine Jimmy!

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Peter I hope you get your dream machine soon because I want to come play!

I can answer your questions on the relationships here since I have been researching the Bendix Appliance history.

Bendix Appliances (AVCO) was sold off to Philco around 1958. Now either Ford purchased Dexter or, Philco under Ford purchased Dexter.
Dexter took all the moldings from Bendix for their commercial line of washers.
Since the 40's I was told Dexter had not made a residential machine, only commercial ones. (Dexter took the moldings because they own their own molding and steel casting operation, even to this day.) So it was Dexter who made all the parts for Philco from the Bendix molds.
This ownership went on sometime until the late 60's when Dexter was directly owned by Ford and then Ford may have sold it off to a third party. But sometime in the 80's or 90's the Dexter employees bought the company back and it is now owned by the employees. And they only make commercial machines and have no intention (as of last fall) of ever making a residential machine again.
A real american work horse!!

jet


Post# 115463 , Reply# 24   3/15/2006 at 22:16 (6,616 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Great History Lesson Jet!

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Sounds like you've your homework. Yes, they do their own castings still to this day in Fairfield, and a very dirty and OLD casting plant to boot! Did you contact folks from Fairfield for the info on Dexter, or was their an outside source? I never realized how much is still done down there. I had no idea that the design principles of the Dexter commercial machines is based on Bendix tech - simply amazing. I'm sure next time I'm down there, I can find some info at the Library in town if needed.

Us 'townies' didn't pay much attention to Dexter unless you were employed there - and waved at the strikers while they cheered on the side of the road! I left Fairfield almost 3 years ago now... And no, I didn't participate in what was brewing on the North side of the tracks, if you know what I mean =)

Ben


Post# 115467 , Reply# 25   3/15/2006 at 22:20 (6,616 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Now that is a rare machine Jimmy!

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I think I've found a new love - time to start hunting! I love the design of the control panel - like the Philco but has its own characteristics. I had no idea that there were Dexter Autos on the market. Does anyone know for how long - mid sixties?

I've got to get me one of those!

Ben


Post# 115519 , Reply# 26   3/16/2006 at 06:44 (6,616 days old) by filterflo (Chicago Area)        

Thanks for the Philco/Dexter info Jon, both are fascinating companies. Looks like Ford bought Philco in 1961. So I guess it was actually Philco Corp that bought Dexter in the late 50's, prob trying to increase their market share. Philco history can be traced pretty easy on the internet... its one of my absolute favorite brands.......

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