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Post# 867732   2/18/2016 at 14:10 (3,001 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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So Fred and I are both at work one afternoon last week and he "innocently" ;-) texts me this craigslist ad asking me "what brand are these?".

I'm like cool that's a Westinghouse Top Loader! I've never actually had a Westinghouse Top Loader in my hands that was salvageable and it just so happens coincidentally that we were headed to Milwaukee for a Valentines weekend visit with the vacuum cleaner side of our family.

The ad was a bit odd saying just come and get them. So on the way down to Milwaukee we stopped in Madison at the address and found nothing. No maroon Ford Expedition in the alley. So we continued on to Milwaukee and I was slightly relieved not to be bringing home another "temporary" play toy lol.





Post# 867733 , Reply# 1   2/18/2016 at 14:12 (3,001 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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So on Sunday on the way home Fred convinced me that we should stop at that address again just to be sure and sure enough!

Post# 867734 , Reply# 2   2/18/2016 at 14:13 (3,001 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Of course the dryer was in front of the washer so we had to unload both, but at least we got a look at the dryer too. We only had room for the washer and that's all I was interested in anyway...

Post# 867735 , Reply# 3   2/18/2016 at 14:14 (3,001 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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So the happy three-some is now loaded up and heading back to Minneapolis

Post# 867736 , Reply# 4   2/18/2016 at 14:17 (3,001 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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The washer cleaned up beautifully. The timer wouldn't advance as one of the gears was stripped, but luckily I had saved some timer parts that matched and was able to fix it. The water level switch needed adjustment otherwise it would have flooded at the higher water levels, the belt needed changing and of course the lid switch needed to be jumped out leaving the lock operational for my stock enjoyment. So much for the seller's "working" statement.

Post# 867737 , Reply# 5   2/18/2016 at 14:18 (3,001 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
The mandatory aw.org money shot

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Post# 867738 , Reply# 6   2/18/2016 at 14:19 (3,001 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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And thank goodness we had one of these in stock...

Post# 867739 , Reply# 7   2/18/2016 at 14:19 (3,001 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Congratulations!!  I had a set like that very briefly in the late 90s up at one of former weekend homes in Brownsburg.  Good luck with your new find!


Post# 867740 , Reply# 8   2/18/2016 at 14:22 (3,001 days old) by maytagmike (Burlington, Vt)        
gold indeed

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Hi Robert, nice catch, can't wait to see when she is up and running.

Mike


Post# 867745 , Reply# 9   2/18/2016 at 15:39 (3,001 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        

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Great find!....its gold 1961 pal says hi!

Post# 867747 , Reply# 10   2/18/2016 at 15:57 (3,001 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

Great looking washer, but I feel bad for the poor dryer that was left behind.

Post# 867748 , Reply# 11   2/18/2016 at 15:57 (3,001 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Nice set

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Very nice set there: they look clean and well maintained.

'Ugly'....methinks not!

Cheers
Leon


Post# 867752 , Reply# 12   2/18/2016 at 16:06 (3,001 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
Dryer

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Post# 867756 , Reply# 13   2/18/2016 at 16:26 (3,001 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Water level sw - would have flooded at higher water levels

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Awesome find Robert, CONGRATS on something new to play with!   I love that it has the ramp agitator!  

 

Question: was the seller around for the "sale" or did you help yourself as the ad suggested?

 

A few years ago I acquired (free) a newer version (and the poor thing wasn't pretty) with the straight vane agitator.   The possible flooding issue @ higher water levels seems to be a common thing with these, the one I had was the same way.  The 2nd photo shows the water level right up to the tub ring and it was set at Medium!   I was afraid to see just how much higher it would go!

 

Kevin


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Post# 867765 , Reply# 14   2/18/2016 at 17:53 (3,001 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Your extra action saved the Extra Action.  Don't get cross with that cross-vane dryer though, just go with the tumble!!!


Post# 867768 , Reply# 15   2/18/2016 at 18:07 (3,001 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

LOL, Very nice save.  I love that you were harvesting machines in a snowstorm.  I wish you would have had a red Christmas ribbon, Reply #1 could be a Christmas advertisement.  Robert and Fred it is so good to see people that truly have fun together. Best Wishes with the Westy..    A


Post# 867777 , Reply# 16   2/18/2016 at 18:40 (3,001 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
lint filtering system

Does anybody have any idea what Westinghouse called their lint filtering system? I know GE called theirs the filter-flo.

Post# 867788 , Reply# 17   2/18/2016 at 19:46 (3,001 days old) by glomain (tuscarawas cnty. (eastern ohio))        
GELaundry4ever

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give it a rest look it up !!! (nice find Robert & Fred)

Post# 867792 , Reply# 18   2/18/2016 at 19:58 (3,001 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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Wow, the past revisited.  Excellent find, and only a few blocks away from my grandparents house on Franklin St. , back in the 1970s.

 

 


Post# 867793 , Reply# 19   2/18/2016 at 19:58 (3,001 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Congrats on the find:   The water level and temp dials look non-surprisingly similar to the ones on their air conditioners. 


Post# 867802 , Reply# 20   2/18/2016 at 20:44 (3,001 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
nice save there!

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It looks like that gold Westy cleaned up nicely for you!

I was curious, there's a "gentle" cycle on the timer knob, so is this a 2-speed? And if not, have you tried the "gentle" cycle yet? What makes the "gentle" different from the normal cycle?
Curious minds want to know
;o)

CONGRATULATIONS on your new addition!!
:oD


Post# 867803 , Reply# 21   2/18/2016 at 20:44 (3,001 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
nice save :)

looks ~1977? -probably too new to have the black 4-port pump and neutral drain solenoid,but should have round westy motor :)

Post# 867807 , Reply# 22   2/18/2016 at 21:00 (3,001 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        

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That looks like an early one as it doesnt have the 'double w' logo...



Post# 867812 , Reply# 23   2/18/2016 at 21:08 (3,001 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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My nephew had a similar washer and dryer but they were labeled plain Westinghouse and no White. But it was white in color. It was bought very used and didnt last long. For a hundred bucks he got his moneys worth even though he beat them up. He didnt have to use a laundromat at least.

Post# 867815 , Reply# 24   2/18/2016 at 21:26 (3,001 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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A pity you couldn't save the dryer, I'm all for matching sets. But the washer is a nice find! No need to use a laundromat now indeed. ;-)

And what a triumph on those faces, like you found your first washer.


Post# 867818 , Reply# 25   2/18/2016 at 21:46 (3,001 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Wonderful!!!

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What a lovely!  Congratulations, Robert and Fred!!


Post# 867828 , Reply# 26   2/18/2016 at 22:42 (3,001 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Question: was the seller around for the "sale" or did you help yourself as the ad suggested?
Nope it was a self service purchase lol

The possible flooding issue @ higher water levels seems to be a common thing with these, the one I had was the same way.
Well they used a standard Singer made water level switch which was found on many 60's and 70's washers. I suspect sitting for many years let the internal rubber bladder harden a bit. After adjustment it works perfectly and has a nice range between the lowest and highest water levels.

I was curious, there's a "gentle" cycle on the timer knob, so is this a 2-speed? And if not, have you tried the "gentle" cycle yet? What makes the "gentle" different from the normal cycle?
Just a lower agitate and spin speed, the Spiral Ramp agitator is pretty delicate to begin with.

looks ~1977? -probably too new to have the black 4-port pump and neutral drain solenoid,but should have round westy motor
Yes I would guess '77 as well. And no it has a plastic poly pump mounted on top of the motor.


Post# 867833 , Reply# 27   2/18/2016 at 23:42 (3,001 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

What a fabulous find. I always had a weak spot in my heart for the top loading Westy's. I'd be happy using those. Congratulations. You guys did a wonderful job cleaning them up and making them usable. Always thought Westy's were good machines that did a good job cleaning without wearing the clothes out.
[When I was a young man (that was back when dirt was new and Moses was a teenager) there was a Westinghouse Laundrymat that had toploaders close to our house, when the Norge/Wards gave out we would do our laundry there. Funny, I remember it had carpet with loud colors, but on the whole, the laundrymat had a warm and clean feel to it. Next door was like a Dairy Queen where you could go get some fries or something to eat and bring it over while the Westy's went to work.]
I'm a bit envious!!!

Barry


Post# 867835 , Reply# 28   2/19/2016 at 00:02 (3,001 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        
Great story!

And a great find! Congratulations! Fred sounds like me when I'm trying to convince my partner to "take a look just in case!" :)

I had one of these back in college and felt the water flow through the filter was pretty lame, so I removed the flow restrictor from the delivery hose. Can you say flood? :) The water came out so forcefully that it seeped through the closed lid and completely flooded the cabinet & the floor! My roommates were not impressed, but did laugh their asses off! I put the restrictor back, but drilled out the orifice to allow more water to flow through the filter. Lots of water action!

Have fun with it!


Post# 867841 , Reply# 29   2/19/2016 at 02:11 (3,001 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        
Great save! Congratulations!

Noticed that the tub on that machine doesn't have any ribbing on it. Does this tub index like other Westy models that have ribbed tubs in them?

My grandmothers Westy's had the ribbing on the tub and indexed.



Post# 867846 , Reply# 30   2/19/2016 at 04:08 (3,001 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

I'm surprised you haven't either had one of these Westinghouse washers or worked on one in the past. Where I live, they were fairly common place. Before these top loading Westinghouse machines, I think that Westinghouse had contracted Easy to make some top loading solid tub machines with their name on them in the earlier '60's. I only saw one of those machines, so I am not sure of the origin of them. The original Westinghouse top loaders were a fairly heavy duty machine, back in the mid sixties. They had the swirl agitator that was black bakelite and were rated at 16 pounds for clothes capacity. They had the weigh to save lids, like the front loaders used to. The lids locked, like the later ones and there was a large solenoid that would kick in to tighten the drive belt for spinning. It would do sort of a neutral drain after washing and then the solenoid would kick in for it to spin. We had a neighbor that had one from about 1966 that lasted for 20 years without a repair. The matching dryer had been replaced during that time, but the washer was still going last that I knew, when she moved. They cheapened them through the years, like most things and they weren't as good a machine as they had once been. They were never that great at spinning the water out. They were on about a par of the older Kenmore/Whirlpool belt drive machines on that. They did wash pretty well though and the suspension system was quite good on the early machines especially. The later ones seemed to develop transmission oil leaks. We had a retail store chain here that sold them, so there were quite a few along with the Mongomery Wards models that were made of them too.

Post# 867854 , Reply# 31   2/19/2016 at 06:06 (3,001 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Awesome

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I have always liked these machines. That agitator is FUN! And the operation is smooth and quiet. Too bad you had the break up the pair.

Malcolm


Post# 867870 , Reply# 32   2/19/2016 at 08:55 (3,001 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

There are worse dryers. If I ever had to have a stacked dryer, I would try for one of the old WH stack-mate dryers.

When I moved to my townhouse In 1981, my neighbors, a retired couple had this machine with the Ward's name. They both died and I moved and a d-i-v-o-r-c-e-d mom and her two sons moved into that house and that machine is still operating. Maybe she put a mezuzza on the lid or something to help it, but, amazingly, it is still going.

When you did not find them the first time, I thought "medications."


Post# 867872 , Reply# 33   2/19/2016 at 09:40 (3,001 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
You Can be Sure

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Hi Robert. Nice!! Let us know how you enjoy playing with the Westy TL. We had one for a while when I was in college. I liked it a lot, it had a long spray rinse, just wish it spun faster. Our's had a recirculating lint filter attached to back tub rim. I'm surprised yours has no lint filter.

Post# 867889 , Reply# 34   2/19/2016 at 12:00 (3,001 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Nice gold!  :-)

I have a sibling model.  Newer?  Older?  Tagged as an "Eighteen," with filter, and the water level control is labeled for pounds of load size.  Yes, it's dirty from the garage environ and hasn't been used in a while.  I also have a spare regular & handwash agitator set.


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Post# 867960 , Reply# 35   2/19/2016 at 22:01 (3,000 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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Nice find -- definitely has the lines of the Wards Signature models when they left Norge for a spell. Is it an indexing tub? I do recall the Signature Westinghouse machines had that dizzying feature...

Post# 868021 , Reply# 36   2/20/2016 at 10:43 (3,000 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
@Dadoes

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That machine appears to be in mint condition.
Thanks for the pic.

Malcolm


Post# 868045 , Reply# 37   2/20/2016 at 16:09 (2,999 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Robert Perdue

In Roanoke has one, I think it washes as good as a Norge, Really WASHES!!! I loved those dryers with the cross tumbling , it wont roll sheets up in a ball.


Post# 868054 , Reply# 38   2/20/2016 at 18:40 (2,999 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Norge

was Norge and Searcy the same? aka, Maytag Performa line? They both had the same thick top back in the 90's. Same as Gibson washers.

Post# 868067 , Reply# 39   2/20/2016 at 19:51 (2,999 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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Awesome machine. Amazing how you can find the ones that clean up so nicely :)

"The timer wouldn't advance as one of the gears was stripped, but luckily I had saved some timer parts that matched and was able to fix it." - I am impressed, but not surprised in the slightest.


Post# 868117 , Reply# 40   2/21/2016 at 01:33 (2,999 days old) by A440 ()        

Great find!

I have always had a soft spot for the Westinghouse washers both front and top load.  I always found that the top load washer had a certain smell to them after doing a few loads of laundry back to back. A good smell.  Just distinct. 

I really like the Gas Westinghouse dryers from this period.  I never used an electric one so I have no opinion of them.

Great find for you guys! 

 

 


Post# 868147 , Reply# 41   2/21/2016 at 08:19 (2,999 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Goldie

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I'm surprised you've not had one of these in the house before, I guess they are a rather rare find.   I think the matching dryer showed up in Shopper's Square the other day, it's not too late...

 

Do you remember this one we brought home from Early back in '03?  Bad spin bearing, sounded like a freight train.  Still a great washer, and two minute spin rinser.    Westinghouse had their problems, but they always made cool washers.


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Post# 871111 , Reply# 42   3/7/2016 at 20:05 (2,983 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        

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Nice find! I have the same set pre-White-Westinghouse in Avocado I'm assuming is from '74 or '75 with the pistachio blue agitator. Interesting how they omitted the waterfall lint trap from your washer. Also curious about the stroke speed of agitation. Mine is fairly brisk and does a great job. They went to a slower stroke speed and I would imagine that did nothing to help. Not the best dryer I've used but it's pretty large in capacity. Just takes forever to dry heavy stuff.

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Post# 871842 , Reply# 43   3/11/2016 at 01:16 (2,980 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        

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Post# 871880 , Reply# 44   3/11/2016 at 11:01 (2,980 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Beautiful set, love the Westinghouse washers...hey Danmantn, here's an opportunity to get a regular and handwash deep ramp agitator.


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