LAT8714 - spin/spray rinse

One of my biggest disappointments with this particular generation of Maytag washers was the lameness of the spray rinse in the first spin. I don't remember when the spray rinse began in the spin, but I do remember that it was only 15 seconds long (I timed it, many times for accuracy) and not very effective. The spray rinse on earlier models, the A712 for example, lasted a full minute. Just for yucks, I brought in the garden hose and continued the spray rinse for another 45 seconds to see how the machine would handle this. The extra water slowed the spin down, practically to a stall. That wouldn't have been so bad by itself, but the final deep rinse was only 2 minutes long and, being a Maytag, the first 30 to 45 seconds of agitation were strained on a big load and very little rollover happened. I usually opted for the Extra Rinse cycle because it was necessary. The older helical drive machines were better at rinsing, overall, than my LAT machine. Not dramatically, but measurably.

One of the reasons I love my Frigidaire 1-18 is that the spray rinse lasts for a good 3 minutes at the end of the first spin; it begins well after all water has been drained and the spin ramps up to full speed. The spray continues into the fill for the first rinse and both rinses are almost always more than sufficient for rinsing the wash lessives out of the laundry before the softener gets to do its work.


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Post# 878288 4/23/2016 at 14:41 (2,939 days old) by joefuss1984 (Little Rock, AR)
Checkrate/Likes Hello everyone! It has been a while since I have been around, but things are finally settling down. I hooked my Maytag up this week for the first time in a year. I have noticed that on the final spin of the regular cycle the spray rinse starts before water has really had a chance to completely drain. I did time the drain and the spray rinse starts at ~57 seconds. I have attached a photo showing how much water is left at the moment the spray begins. This may be completely normal for this model, but that is why I am asking you guys, the experts. It would seem, however, to be more effective if the drain was completed and the machine spinning at max speed. Anyway, I am open to thoughts and suggestions. Thanks!! I will mention the belts have not had much use on them, they are Maytag belts. View Full Size

Post# 878296 , Reply# 1 4/23/2016 at 16:27 (2,939 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)
Checkrate/Likes Depending on how large/heavy the load is, sometimes my Maytag 511 will spray before the entire wash water has drained but it does drain out and ramps up to max speed. A load of towels like your pix will definitely slow the drain/spin. But if it does it even with a small, light load, there may be a drain blockage.

Post# 878347 , Reply# 2 4/24/2016 at 09:27 (2,938 days old) by bendixmark (Winchester Mass)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *draining* The pump belt may be too loose or the pump itself is not turning freely.Generally speaking the water should be gone before the spray rinse begins.That washer should pump out a full tub within 90 seconds or less.

Post# 878350 , Reply# 3 4/24/2016 at 09:45 (2,938 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)
Checkrate/Likes for the most part, most machines will pump out in 90 seconds or less, with an empty tub!...with clothing, that's another story.... a lot of the newer machines, as this LAT series, the timers usually have so many cycles in them, that they pack a lot of functions close together, and they don't exactly fine tune them, so this water spraying too soon is one example.... I have a filterflo that does this too, water starts in 30 seconds into the spin....granted its a nice long spin spray.... and trying to set the timer anywhere mid cycle, is anyones guess, you can pass up segments in one click... for Maytags, they did offer a bigger pulley for the motor side that will cause the pump to run faster, but was mainly used on machines that had a high pump out level drain hose.....it also thought corrugated ones sort of slow down pump out times....as well as ones too narrow in diameter, or have a restrictor at the end...

Post# 878356 , Reply# 4 4/24/2016 at 10:47 (2,938 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)
Checkrate/Likes One of my biggest disappointments with this particular generation of Maytag washers was the lameness of the spray rinse in the first spin. I don't remember when the spray rinse began in the spin, but I do remember that it was only 15 seconds long (I timed it, many times for accuracy) and not very effective. The spray rinse on earlier models, the A712 for example, lasted a full minute. Just for yucks, I brought in the garden hose and continued the spray rinse for another 45 seconds to see how the machine would handle this. The extra water slowed the spin down, practically to a stall. That wouldn't have been so bad by itself, but the final deep rinse was only 2 minutes long and, being a Maytag, the first 30 to 45 seconds of agitation were strained on a big load and very little rollover happened. I usually opted for the Extra Rinse cycle because it was necessary. The older helical drive machines were better at rinsing, overall, than my LAT machine. Not dramatically, but measurably. One of the reasons I love my Frigidaire 1-18 is that the spray rinse lasts for a good 3 minutes at the end of the first spin; it begins well after all water has been drained and the spin ramps up to full speed. The spray continues into the fill for the first rinse and both rinses are almost always more than sufficient for rinsing the wash lessives out of the laundry before the softener gets to do its work.

Post# 878394 , Reply# 5 4/24/2016 at 17:31 (2,938 days old) by Super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)
Checkrate/Likes That was normal for this generation of Maytags. I remember my 9904's and 9304 doing this. Once the pressure switch has been relieved, there is only a few seconds the does before it will do a quick spray. Of corse make sure your motor carriage and pump are lubed and adjusted so-so

Post# 878666 , Reply# 6 4/26/2016 at 17:46 (2,936 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *SPRAY RINSES* I have a LAT Series washer, and my first spray rinse is about a minute and a half long. by the time the deep rinse comes along, the water is always clear. Just sayin! Hugs, David

Post# 879076 , Reply# 7 4/29/2016 at 22:56 (2,932 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)
Checkrate/Likes Saying that the older helical drives were better at rinsing is certainly damning with faint praise. I used to put one of those soft rain garden sprinking heads on the end of my spin spray hose and I could get great results of both water penetration of the load without splash back and full speed spinning.