Thread Number: 66053
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
POD 6/20/16 - The QUIET Tappen dishwasher |
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Post# 886125   6/20/2016 at 14:05 (2,867 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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What year is this from, I assume mid-late 60's??
Also what sort of "cleaning system" did this use with it's "automatic reversing action" and without "propellers or a noisy motor"? Was it something like a Frigidaire spin tube, but mounted below?
This is a rather odd rack design, especially when they claim it's "banquet size capacity".
**Robert I hope it's OK I used only this small image from it?
Kevin
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Post# 886128 , Reply# 1   6/20/2016 at 14:18 (2,867 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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I think it was more like the early 60s Kevin. The wash system was a screw-drive kind of unit; the only thing I can think that was close to it was the James. I had a brochure for this model in a Canadian Reader's Digest when I was a brat. Unfortunately I lost it in a house fire in 1991.
These dishwashers have a horrible reputation and I know of one collector here (*cough* a Mr. John Lefever) who found one, hooked it for a test, found how badly it cleaned (or did not clean I suppose) and out the door it went!
I saw one in Montreal a few years ago in pink, but the seller wanted to sell it as part of a package deal with a pink range and refrigerator and would not even consider selling just the dishwasher.
And yes, I still want one despite all this... |
Post# 886129 , Reply# 2   6/20/2016 at 14:36 (2,867 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 886130 , Reply# 3   6/20/2016 at 14:38 (2,867 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 886134 , Reply# 4   6/20/2016 at 15:22 (2,867 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 886181 , Reply# 5   6/20/2016 at 19:54 (2,867 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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The cylinder was bakelite type of affair. There were baffles mounted at the back of the cylinder that caused the water action as the cylinder spun very quickly. The "hump" in the bottom rack was to make space for the cylinder underneath it. My Godfather's family bought a new house in probably 1963 that had a Tappan kitchen in it that had this dishwash3er. The house we bought in fall of 1961 had the O'Keefe & Merrit version of the same dishwasher. It was ripped out because we brought the less than 1-2 year old Waste King. The dishwasher ripped out was put in our old house so the new buyer had a dishwasher in the kitchen where the Waste King had been. I knew one or two other people who had this dishwasher. I consider this worse than a Frigidaire Spin Tube. As for any potential for cleaning even crumbs, it ranks right up there with the washer that had the interchangeable tub to make it a dishwasher. And I base that on the pathetic "splashing" for that said dishwasher from Dishwashercrazy's video of it. For that washer, I had expected the "agitator" to wash the dishes with it "spinning" rather than the agitator simply agitating back and forth like when it was washing. That was a disappointment to me. |
Post# 886194 , Reply# 6   6/20/2016 at 21:06 (2,867 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The revolving cylinder was about 10" in diameter, the drive motor was mounted inside the cylinder from the rear of the DW [ it would have been a PITA to fix or replace the motor but I am quite sure no one ever bothered to fix one of these DWs ]. The motor ran at 1725 RPMs, the Bakelite surface was completely smooth, the one we had had no fins or ridges of any kind on the outside of the cylinder.
Yes I hate to admit that we threw a nearly new unused one of these away, but we did hook it up and use it a few times, and yes it is truly the worst DW I ever tried to use, if I had it to do over again I would have saved it.
John L. |
Post# 886204 , Reply# 7   6/20/2016 at 22:06 (2,867 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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We had family friends that had one from 1963. Quiet machine.
But they always pre rinsed so couldn't judge performance! I remember the big timer dial that light up. They always had some type of service problems with this unit. I cannot recall what. But after 18 years in 1981 it was replaced with a reverse rack maytag and they always complained about the new machine being real noisy. This was opposite the norm where when most people get a new DW it is actually more quiet than the old! Peter |
Post# 886207 , Reply# 8   6/20/2016 at 22:47 (2,867 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 886410 , Reply# 10   6/22/2016 at 10:28 (2,865 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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So would that be one of the worst dishwasher ever built ? Would it win the coveted title of the worst dishwasher EVER ? Or does any other make or model come to mind ? thank you in advance for your answers |
Post# 886414 , Reply# 11   6/22/2016 at 10:55 (2,865 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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From what I've heard, ANY of the Tappan dishwashers were pretty bad... The Dual-Drench model in the ad that started this thread was bad, but apparently, its replacement that had a spring-loaded reversing wash arm was pretty awful as well. I remember friends who had a 70s Tappan in a reasonably nice apartment where they lived, but the machine had some kind of electric interlock for the door (kind of like the Westinghouse 'Lock N Spin' top-load washers) that held their clean dishes hostage for weeks at a time... LOL
Frigidaire Spin-Tube dishwashers don't have a great reputation either... I've still got one but it's not in regular use so I can't say for sure! |
Post# 886435 , Reply# 12   6/22/2016 at 13:57 (2,865 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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The exception to the bad Tappan dishwashers might be the one in this episode of the Price is Right. Go to 8 minute and 24 seconds, and you will see that this Tappan is actually a Whirlpool machine. Correct me if I am wrong. CLICK HERE TO GO TO whitetub's LINK |
Post# 886438 , Reply# 13   6/22/2016 at 14:10 (2,865 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 886441 , Reply# 14   6/22/2016 at 14:32 (2,865 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I remember the Bélanger and the Roy brands. Those were the days... |
Post# 886442 , Reply# 15   6/22/2016 at 14:40 (2,865 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 886443 , Reply# 16   6/22/2016 at 14:50 (2,865 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Those brands weren't that great. Re-badge from the main companies of that time. White-Westinghouse or GE, I think. I was about 10 years old. Those were the days of Harvest Gold and Avocado green. Chrome and wood-grain control panels. I miss those days.... |
Post# 886444 , Reply# 17   6/22/2016 at 14:52 (2,865 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 886450 , Reply# 18   6/22/2016 at 15:44 (2,865 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Would that be a Tappan too ?
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Post# 886451 , Reply# 19   6/22/2016 at 15:49 (2,865 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 886452 , Reply# 20   6/22/2016 at 15:57 (2,865 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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The Top Rack is attached to the bottom rack, contrary to the model in the ad at the top of the thread. The executives were probably well protected in those days. They probably got a nice retirement package. lol. |
Post# 886471 , Reply# 21   6/22/2016 at 17:44 (2,865 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 886478 , Reply# 22   6/22/2016 at 18:38 (2,865 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 886479 , Reply# 23   6/22/2016 at 18:41 (2,865 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 886482 , Reply# 25   6/22/2016 at 18:45 (2,865 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 886520 , Reply# 26   6/23/2016 at 04:12 (2,864 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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I can't begin to imagine what a PITA that would be to load. I know the early Hotpoints were set up the same way but they look like they would be a little easier to load than this one. Maybe not. I'm glad I have never had to use one. However, I would still love to have one of the Hotpoints that had the upper and lower racks that moved independently. |
Post# 886576 , Reply# 27   6/23/2016 at 10:03 (2,864 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Another Tappan dishwasher, at 13 min 36 sec, in this episode of the Price Is Right. 1974 Very good looking machine from the outside. Not Whirlpool made, from what I can tell. Who made this one? Frigidaire maybe.... CLICK HERE TO GO TO whitetub's LINK |
Post# 886611 , Reply# 28   6/23/2016 at 15:53 (2,864 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 886638 , Reply# 29   6/23/2016 at 20:26 (2,864 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 886645 , Reply# 30   6/23/2016 at 22:19 (2,864 days old) by Whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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WCI.....Thanks. Very nice looking control panel. I wish that show was in HD so I could see the details better. Lol. |
Post# 886695 , Reply# 31   6/24/2016 at 06:32 (2,863 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Tappan Dishwashers, one appliance not degraded by the WCI takeover. |
Post# 886793 , Reply# 33   6/24/2016 at 16:06 (2,863 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 886805 , Reply# 34   6/24/2016 at 18:47 (2,863 days old) by Whitetub (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Thanks for all that information. I love knowing all that stuff. But when I tell my friends, they think we're crazy. |