Thread Number: 72762
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
What happened to the Whirlpool combo that was supposed to be released this year ? |
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Post# 961379   10/8/2017 at 19:39 (2,391 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie )   |   | |
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Post# 961386 , Reply# 1   10/8/2017 at 20:25 (2,391 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 962354 , Reply# 2   10/13/2017 at 19:33 (2,386 days old) by vacman1961 (North Babylon, New York)   |   | |
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I work for Whirlpool service, we are going for training on Tuesday, I will ask my district manager the status on the combo washer/dryer. |
Post# 962389 , Reply# 4   10/13/2017 at 23:56 (2,386 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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John,
I think some are announced in the spring and some in the fall. Also, some products have been introduced at Consumer Electronic Show in January but aren't available for sale until late spring or summer. KitchenAid just put a few new dishwasher models on their web site as well as on Home Depot. GE announced September 19 a new line of slide-in ranges. Have been expecting them for a while given they've had little new activity since their acquisition by Haier. |
Post# 962425 , Reply# 5   10/14/2017 at 08:26 (2,385 days old) by Jmm63 (Denville, NJ)   |   | |
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Post# 962535 , Reply# 6   10/14/2017 at 16:04 (2,385 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie )   |   | |
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Post# 962540 , Reply# 7   10/14/2017 at 16:12 (2,385 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 962657 , Reply# 9   10/15/2017 at 08:03 (2,384 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Bendix introduced the Duomatic in December, 1952, so there is precedent. |
Post# 962678 , Reply# 10   10/15/2017 at 10:35 (2,384 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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A 3-4 Hour full cycle time is NOT acceptable, we had combos in the US that only spun at 200 RPMs that could get a 10 pound load done in less than 1 and 1/2 hours.
For a full sized heat-pump dryer or combo to work it needs around an 18,000 BTU refrigeration system, unfortunately the European compact [ 24" ] dryers built so far and a few full sized dryers only have around a 6,000 BTU system.
Vented clothes dryers are by far the most popular type the world over, even in Europe the majority of clothing and linens that are dried in mechanical dryers are dried in vented dryers a good percentage of which are NG heated.
In order for a full sized combo to be at all successful in the US it would need to be 240 volts or gas heated and vented. Less than 4% of US homes and apartments that have a place for a W&D do not have 208-240 volt or gas available for a dryer.
I am a big fan of Heat-Pump dryers, My friend Pete and brother Jeff and I invented the concept of a HP CD over 35 years ago, the idea holds great promise for certain homes and situations, but they will never be very popular as long as NG dryers are so much less expensive to build and operate.
John L. |
Post# 962708 , Reply# 12   10/15/2017 at 13:32 (2,384 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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A 24" WP Gas dryer will dry that load in 35-40 minutes and a 120 volt WP 24" dryer will dry that load in a little less than 90 minutes. [ as Laundress she does it all the time ]
Running the gas dryer at US rates for gas will cost less than you guys can run a HP dryer for, the 120 volt dryer would use around twice as many KWs as your HP dryer. But my main point is Americans will not accept dryers that keep tumbling their clothing for 2-4 hours, it is simply too much clothing wear and too long to wait when you have several loads to get done. John L. |
Post# 963897 , Reply# 13   10/22/2017 at 16:43 (2,377 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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With Whirlpool having already been in the combo business you'd think they would already have a combo model to build. The Neptune was a lot like Maytags failing front load combo without the dryer. If you look at the stacked Neptune you see the same dispenser set up in the opening frame. Our Lady Kenmore lasted our family of eight almost thirty years with one major repair (balance system lock assembly) and we washed at least three loads a day. I hope Whirlpool will make
A. A 220 V electric. B. A 110V gas C. A 110V electric D. A 24" model in either of the models E. Direct drive F interior drum light you can turn on or off while in cycle. If they were to do this, it would be perfect. Our average wash to fold cycles were around 90 minutes. Usually a twelve minute wash Three deep rinses three minutes each and a final high spin. Then a sensor dry cycle.always got clothes really dry. Really clean too. Looking forward to seeing the new models. |
Post# 964156 , Reply# 14   10/24/2017 at 14:59 (2,375 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 964275 , Reply# 15   10/25/2017 at 14:36 (2,374 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie )   |   | |
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