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Is this a Haier - branded as Ge?
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Post# 1015498   11/23/2018 at 10:03 by tinkr (Phoenix Arizona)        

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Haier USA has portables on their web site. All "no longer available "

I am inclined to think that they are branding their portables as GE's and raising the price
by branding them GE. That is so deceptive. AT over $800.00.. A few stores are having sales now, at 749.00. Haier is just cashing in on an American Brand name.

And I will be in need of a new machine to replace my 8 year old 1.6 Haier portable.
I have been very happy with the small portable but it is just wearing out. And I don't want to invest any more money in it. Replaced the trans (under extended warranty) and just recently the pump.

We are in end of life problems with the last 2 of our Min Pins and generating a lot of small blankets and cleaning rags.
Hauling out the wringer for small loads is not efficient.
and the Haier is getting very noisy over all.

And 2.8 cf is a much more usable size tub.

I know the Magic Chef is far less expensive at the 2.0 cu ft.

I was waiting for the HTL (think that is correct) from Laundry Alternitive

To see what capacity it will be. Any one know when that might be? (Thomas?}

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Post# 1015500 , Reply# 1   11/23/2018 at 12:15 by thomasortega (We have a famous sign, earthquakes, bushfires and weed)        


It will be very soon.

Actually I'm with the last prototype in the lab now (I'll ask the CEO if i can make and post a video) Kevin already tried it. The water level is very high and comparable to vintage front loaders (2 inches below the axis). You can't "see" the water because it's a top load but you can hear all that water sloshing during the agitation.

This is the semi-automatic version (automatic fills, pump and rinse, no spin) and will reach the market during the first semester 2019.
The footprint is 50% smaller than the 1.6 cu ft magic chef and it can wash the same as a full size Whirlpool-kenmore-amana top load with an agitator.
By the end of the first semester we will probably release the fully automatic HATL washer and for the second semester we will have the HATL washer-dryer combo.

Post# 1015502 , Reply# 2   11/23/2018 at 13:05 by fan-of-fans (Florida)        

Haier bought GE Appliances so I guess they are trying to expand the GE line (and upsell it) by branding their portables as it.

Post# 1015507 , Reply# 3   11/23/2018 at 14:14 by tinkr (Phoenix Arizona)        
A video !!!! Exciting

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Thomas a video would be great.
I am willing to wait... I would be very interested in the fully automatic.
I hope the machine I have now holds out till June. If that is when it may come out.
Would be a super B-Day gift to myself.

A full size Whirlpool or amana is around 3 cu ft. Correct? Or ??? I am not as educated
on tub capacity as many here are.
I just know I would like a machine that I can wash
5 hospital scrub sets at a time. large size with 5 under shirts large size and 5 sets of socks.
A machine that can handle 3 Cal king sheets in 1 load.
Do you think I would work for those loads?

Post# 1015510 , Reply# 4   11/23/2018 at 14:43 by henene4 (Germany)        

3 cuft minus agitator is about right I think.

What will the spin speed of the fully automatic be like?

Post# 1015521 , Reply# 5   11/23/2018 at 15:35 by tinkr (Phoenix Arizona)        
3 cu ft

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Would be adequate for my needs.
I am curious about filtering and spin ratio also.

I have been waiting anxiously for this machine to be unveiled.

The 2.8 GE would work but the price is a little tough to swallow.

Post# 1015525 , Reply# 6   11/23/2018 at 16:27 by henene4 (Germany)        

Walmart stocks a RCA 3.0cuft version for 320$ I think. So that priceing is just insane, given these are basicly carbon copies of each other.

For those prices, you can get compact FLs of simmilar capacity that even allow stacking afterwards...

Post# 1015614 , Reply# 7   11/24/2018 at 05:01 by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        
priceing is just insane, given...

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Also given, that RCA is just a name you can rent like bowling shoes.

Post# 1015919 , Reply# 8   11/26/2018 at 22:55 by thomasortega (We have a famous sign, earthquakes, bushfires and weed)        

Guys, i'm getting ready to make the video to show you some of the HATL semi-automatic washer that is coming early 2019.

Let me ask one thing... how many bath towels would put in a regular Whirlpool/kenmore/amana/roper/whatever brand, same washer with an agitator available on the market nowadays?

Consider them all white and very dirty and you want them clean. average "cheap motel" towels.

Post# 1015965 , Reply# 9   11/27/2018 at 13:46 by tinkr (Phoenix Arizona)        

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Last standard size washer I had was a 1985 filter flow. In that I would think 7 or 8.
My maytag had a super size tub so I can't use that to compare.

So 8. In a standard size tub.

Post# 1016084 , Reply# 10   11/28/2018 at 12:39 by thomasortega (We have a famous sign, earthquakes, bushfires and weed)        

How much would you put in the Maytag super size tub?

The new HATL can wash more than 8... Actually, 8 towels is nothing for it. LOL

Video coming soon, maybe tomorrow if I have time...

What about 12 bath towels? does it sound fair enough for a test? Maybe 15? IDK if I have 15 bath towels available, let's see... Anyway, I also have face towels, washcloths and bath mats.

Post# 1016110 , Reply# 11   11/28/2018 at 16:46 by tinkr (Phoenix Arizona)        
Thin bath towels

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The Maytag would wash 20 easy. With plenty of roll over.

Really want to see the video. And I do so appreciate it.

Post# 1016119 , Reply# 12   11/28/2018 at 17:44 by henene4 (Germany)        
Drum size

I guess to get better comparability to other solutions you should just list tub size in cuft as usual.

Many brands tried to convince people by hideing true volume ratings and using EU like loading suggestions and all failed.

If you can beat similar compacts by specs, you have won already.

Once you get bigger retailers on board (Amazon, Walmart) you are basically set for the long-term.

Post# 1016182 , Reply# 13   11/29/2018 at 03:23 by thomasortega (We have a famous sign, earthquakes, bushfires and weed)        

Henene, I don't like using drum size for HATL washers because the fill factor is a little bit different. as you may know, HATL washers clean better if the drum is really full (I'd say packed) than only 2/3 full, different from a front load washer.

It can wash the same as a 4 cu ft front load washer.

Regarding big retailers like Walmart, We are present on both, however, we don't like them very much because of the "low price, no matter what."

Amazon is the worst of all, as they're always pushing us and insisting that we need to remove features or quality in order to reduce the MSRP.

I won't mention details but I can say they're RIDICULOUS. We refuse to sell some products at Amazon and Walmart because of that. If we could, we wouldn't sell anything there. Luckily, we have hundreds (if not thousands) of customers that simply refuse to buy anything at Amazon or

Post# 1016477 , Reply# 14   12/1/2018 at 20:05 by chetlaham (United States)        

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Count me in, if the washer isn't quality, I'm not buying it no matter who is selling. As is even businesseses that cut corners first start by building a name through loyal customers as Walmart did in the early days.

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