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Thread Number: 78345
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
J.C. Penny to Stop Selling Home Appliances |
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Post# 1023774 , Reply# 1 2/6/2019 at 13:50 (2,051 days old) by DADoES  (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1023775 , Reply# 2 2/6/2019 at 13:58 (2,051 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 1023778 , Reply# 3 2/6/2019 at 14:46 (2,051 days old) by Whatsername (Denver, CO) | ||
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| Post# 1023787 , Reply# 4 2/6/2019 at 16:29 (2,050 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA) | ||
 Wow - they hardly gave it a chance. Doesn't sound like there will be any bargains as this article from the Dallas Morning News states they didn't actually own any inventory outside the display models in the stores.
Quote: "Penney owns all the appliances that are in its stores, but not the appliances it sells. Customer purchases are filled by the manufacturers: GE, Samsung, LG and Frigidaire. The way the contract was structured, Penney needed high sales volumes to make it worthwhile." CLICK HERE TO GO TO IowaBear's LINK | ||
| Post# 1023802 , Reply# 5 2/6/2019 at 17:57 (2,050 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida) | ||
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Never saw an appliance department in the JCPenney here. I do remember receiving some flyers in the mail, but it wasn't an often thing. | ||
| Post# 1023873 , Reply# 7 2/7/2019 at 10:51 (2,050 days old) by golittlesport (California) | ||
When I was in college (more years ago than I care to recall, LOL) I worked at JCP in their shoe department. That was back in the glory days of department stores. JCP sold clothing, furniture, electronics (TVs and stereos,) small appliances and housewares and major appliances. Appliances were their own Penncrest or JCPenny brand, just as Sears only sold Kenmore in those days. Washers and dryers were sourced from Hotpoint and vacuums from Hoover. They sold just about anything you could imagine except for food and gasoline. And of course, their catalog rivaled Sears'.
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Post# 1023889 , Reply# 10 2/7/2019 at 14:30 (2,050 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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I do recall when JCP had their Penncrest appliance line, although at the time I didn't recognize it being rebadged Hotpoint/GE. The dept was on the 2nd floor ... up the escalator, head forward a ways then turn to the left. Major appliances on the left (I was shooed away by salespeeps a few times, LOL), TVs/audio on the right. My first component stereo system (MCS) was from JCP in 1978. I still have and occasionally (rarely) use the turntable. | ||
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Post# 1023935 , Reply# 13 2/7/2019 at 22:44 (2,049 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Post# 1023974 , Reply# 15 2/8/2019 at 10:15 (2,049 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan & Palm Springs, CA) |
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Yeah, they were only interested in trying to get a little of the mall-based appliance business which Sears had/has and they brought nothing to the table. In the old-days, they never had appliances through the catalogue, only in metropolitan clusters of stores (and almost never in the old pre-1950s stores even if those were in metro areas). They did sell appliances at the JCP at the Palm Springs Mall (wouldn't have thought that store big enough). Likewise with furniture, in metro stores (but not every metro area---they were thin in some cities in the 80s/90s).
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Post# 1024007 , Reply# 17 2/8/2019 at 15:46 (2,048 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL) |
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Excuse me, but | ||
| Post# 1024010 , Reply# 18 2/8/2019 at 16:01 (2,048 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
I walked through their "appliance" depertment
It was sorely lacking any choices, and was in JC Penny tradition, overpriced.
I think it was a venture that they tried in their attempt to stay alive in the retail business, hoping to capture some of the traffic when Sear's exited many of the malls. Offering only Samsung and LG appliances severely limited their appeal. Since Penny's has been predicted to be the next retail bankruptcy, their exit from large appliances was probably a good move on their part, as they can focus on smaller, less costly inventory. Now if they would just work on their customer service. My 14 year old daughter was treated very rudely at the make up counter. The way the woman acted, knowing that she is probably on commission, I could have understood if she had been a little more decent towards my child. Maybe Penny's and other retailers should review who has the most disposable income, it's usually the teens. But back to appliances, they would probably have done better if they had staffed the area with employees that could have helped the customers. Reading the post above, maybe they were afraid a gay would buy a washer from them. Some believe they should still wear the pink triangle, at least in public to protect the "decent" citizens. | ||
| Post# 1024045 , Reply# 24 2/8/2019 at 22:24 (2,048 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) | ||
avoid patronizing places like Hobby Lobby or Chick Filet because they outright refuse to employ or want customers who are gay.....THAT you would protest by not shopping there...
not shopping at JCPenney because of an ad/commercial that's pro-gay.....that's homophobic! smart business for any company.....money is green, I don't care who spends it in my store! careful, the next cashier, gas pump attendant, waiter, teller, etc....may be gay....AND you might not even know it!.... I was standing at a checkout the other day....a woman was stating to the cashier that she didn't like gay people, and could spot them a mile away (granted, yes, some are a little more obvious than others)….I spoke up, "Even Hellen Keller could figure that one out!".....maybe the straights should stop breeding so many of us! I wonder why we are so obsessed trying to find intelligent life on other planets, when we can't find any intelligent life here! | ||
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Post# 1024062 , Reply# 26 2/9/2019 at 00:36 (2,048 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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The Pennys in my area sell the home-kitchen appliances-ranges,fridges and washers,dryers.They also stock small kitchen appliances such as mixers,blenders and food processors. | ||
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Post# 1024070 , Reply# 27 2/9/2019 at 02:55 (2,048 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Post# 1024081 , Reply# 28 2/9/2019 at 07:30 (2,048 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia) |
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Anyone who says they stopped shopping at a particular store because that store featured gays in its advertising IS homophobic, no matter how many times that say they are not homophobic. And gay isn't a "lifestyle." it is a sexuality. FFS. Off to Geelong Pride march tomorrow. | ||
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Post# 1024082 , Reply# 29 2/9/2019 at 07:48 (2,048 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Can't say I blame them.....
Selling major appliances in this age of internet for "brick" stores must difficult. They must stock inventory, pay (and find)good sales persons and a host of other issues online does not. Worse people come in and waste salesperson's time asking four thousand questions, kicking the tires, then go off and buy online because it is "cheaper".
Sears moved tons of appliances in their day thanks to their credit card/financing. That was one of the real reasons Kenmore dominated much of the US appliance market. | ||
| Post# 1024086 , Reply# 30 2/9/2019 at 08:20 (2,048 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) | ||
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Queer eye for the straight guy!
I think his wife is more afraid if they shop somewhere like JCPenneys, he may come home with options to upgrade to a guy who would take care of him better! how many times have you been out shopping, and seen a husband and wife, and you could tell he is miserable, but drudges on.... even more that he ducks out long enough to slip you his number!... she probably thinks he is SAFE going to Home Depot alone!....little does she know, he is going for some wood, but it ain't lumber! | ||
| Post# 1024093 , Reply# 32 2/9/2019 at 09:59 (2,048 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA) | ||
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Some bargains from April 1983 The last time JC Penney announced the end of appliance sales was Feb 1st, 1983. Cedar Rapids had a large mall anchor JCP (built in 1979) with an appliance department. I remember it being decent-sized but not as large as Sears.
I looked up the ads from that time and by April of 1983 they were advertising the following discounts. By June 1983 they were advertising 25% all remaining stock and that was the end of it.
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| Post# 1024121 , Reply# 34 2/9/2019 at 16:42 (2,047 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs) | ||
Yikes! I clicked on this this JCP thread and was surprised that it turned into a religious "Tent Revival". I've always liked the positive discussion of department stores selling major appliances. In the suburban Emporium stores where I worked appliances were always sort of an "add-on" to the furniture area. Shortly before they ditched appliances, Macy's San Francisco added 3 model "dream" kitchens. The modern one was space-age and out of this world. I think at the time, Macy's California division had more money than they knew what to do with. Sales were that good.
Jamile, although my current illness prohibits me from venturing out to malls, The Palm Springs Mall was already in decay when I moved here. The now defunct Gottschalk's was the only department store open and it wasn't much of an anchor. I believe the only original anchors were Penny's and Kmart, with more pricey stores like Saks and Bullock's located downtown which is currently undergoing a massive remodel of shopping, hotels and condos. Department store shopping has moved to nearby Palm Desert with Macy's, Penny's and Sears located at Westfield Mall.
Downtown seems to be losing it's "quaintness" at the expense of what's "hip & trendy"...
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Post# 1024135 , Reply# 35 2/9/2019 at 20:46 (2,047 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan & Palm Springs, CA) |
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| Post# 1024178 , Reply# 37 2/10/2019 at 06:54 (2,047 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida) | ||
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Hunt Club Anyone remember the Hunt Club brand? It reminded me of JCPenney's version of Ralph Lauren's Polo. In the early 2000s the brand became only a few men's items. Then it seemed to become their school uniform brand. After that it was done away with. | ||
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Post# 1024247 , Reply# 38 2/10/2019 at 20:03 (2,046 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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It was just yesterday I actually went to our nearby Penny's at Oakland Mall with my daughter and a friend of hers...
Saw the appliance department, foretold by the banner outside the store stating, in the exact format:
So, to me, other than the predictable short time they are playing games with the Going Out Of Business ballyhoo that Sears is doing, nothing's changed...
As Sears and Montgomery Ward's were long the Ford/General Motors of the Specialty Store World, JC Penny could easily pass as the Chrysler, as past and now defunct contemporaries, are the AMC...
WE NOW SELL
APPLIANCES!
-- Dave | ||
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Post# 1024250 , Reply# 39 2/10/2019 at 20:31 (2,046 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Some references on TV, to the retailer I have witnessed:
In the sitcom SANFORD AND SON, Fred is seen with a shovel, sharing with a scientist, his digging with it he was doing in the yard, explaining that it was an artifact of JayCeePennee...
While in another episode, Grady met this ugly gal he was dating "at JC Penny", as he'd told Fred and Lamont when asked... She'd recommended a burgundy tie to go with his suit of charcoal gray... And later on, Fred and Lamont bungle up the affair at their house, inviting Grady and his beau to have dinner in their living room and finding a way for him to screw up their rendezvous, to help the couple break up... (He wasn't in love with her as much as she had an affection for him, that with their help, he'd intended to blow off!)
Lastly, THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW, quotes Sheriff Andy Taylor to most-likely his Deputy Barney Fife: "You look good enough to be put in a JC Penny window!", as the that scene even got resurrected as a snippet on the A&E Biography of JC Penny, years ago, along with watching countless other episodes about the famous, I also had watched...
-- Dave | ||
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Post# 1024295 , Reply# 42 2/11/2019 at 09:20 (2,046 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Oops, I meant it was pronounced by Fred Sanford as: "Jay Cee Penn-aaaayyyy!"
Wonder if the idea of your Lowe's getting Sears' Craftsman's tools just a matter of moving them from door to next door...
Our local retailer Ace Hardware was one outlet that I thought was actually going to carry Craftsman, and under the banners I'd seen in the tool selection was the actual Craftsman tools...
Seems as though, to me, Lowe's is actually more worthy chain-wide of gaining Craftsman than Home Depot, but don't know why...
-- Dave | ||
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Post# 1025254 , Reply# 43 2/21/2019 at 04:09 (2,036 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Yes, where did those days go?!
Well, I did have a Penny’s catalog from 1982, and other than major appliances, they sold everything...
So there was furniture, a whole line of light fixtures, every hand and power tool you could imagine, and every kind and sort of auto accessory... Not to mention things like carpeting, clothing, and jewelry... — Dave | ||
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Post# 1025316 , Reply# 44 2/21/2019 at 23:55 (2,035 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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I've seen a number of commercials on TV for Penny's appliances, "Now, up to 40% off..." | ||
| Post# 1025339 , Reply# 45 2/22/2019 at 10:28 (2,035 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) | ||
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JCPenney's had appliances back in 1988ish era.....I know there were small appliances, but I only recall washers/dryers....
as they had Frigidaire FL SpaceMates I was thinking of purchasing....by 1990 they were on clearance.... Sears had this same set on floor model clearance as well....oddly Sears had the better price so that's where I got them.... | ||
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Post# 1025369 , Reply# 46 2/22/2019 at 18:50 (2,034 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan & Palm Springs, CA) |
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I'd almost believe that they reached a tipping point with their vendors (GE/Samsung/…) where they had to put up or shut up regarding inventory--believe I read that they were strictly ordertakers for the manufacturers and hosted no inventory. They may have reached a point where they needed to pony up for inventory, but didn't have the business case to do that. They were probably acceptably productive (on a sales/square foot basis) without any inventory investment, but any investment ruined the business case. I knew one couple who bought some appliances there 18 months or so who shopped pretty hard...believe they had a 12 months same as cash which sold them.
As I recall they discontinued full-line whitegoods in 1981/2 as mentioned, but believe they kept WCI front-load stackable washer/dryer in the catalogue for several years beyond that. The original rollout seemed pretty comprehensive to all their clustered stores built since they made their mall move in 1960 or so; and entirely omitted the older dry-goods stores (in St. Louis, they had appliances at South County Center built in 1962 but did not have them at Hampton Village, a 1948 (roughly) build dry-goods store. Back in 1981/1982 their major appliance departments were not comprehensive like Sears or Wards, but were more like any other department store (in St. Louis, both Famous-Barr and Stix Baer and Fuller sold major appliances). | ||
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Post# 1025476 , Reply# 47 2/24/2019 at 05:08 (2,033 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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| Post# 1025493 , Reply# 48 2/24/2019 at 10:00 (2,033 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) | ||
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surprised JCPenney's lasted this long.....
I got my first credit card from them, and still have it.... Boscov's was always been a store of decorated gaudy glitz, trying to compete with the likes of Macy's.....the pricing of KMart, and quality of a Dollar Store....always having their outside tent sales, for stuff they can't give away...although they do still offer gift wrap and discounts to Military... | ||
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Post# 1025508 , Reply# 49 2/24/2019 at 13:28 (2,033 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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