Thread Number: 78398
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Miele Heat Pump Dryers, 120V! |
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Post# 1024273 , Reply# 2   2/11/2019 at 01:05 (1,872 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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There are one or maybe two threads here in the group (archives) regarding Miele's 120v heat pump dryers.
Having ceased importing 208v-240v washing machines to North America for domestic use (Little Giant and other model washer are from the professional division) in favor of 120v, now a matching dryer with similar power requirements means both can operate on same circuit. This totally removes one of the reasons many in past couldn't or wouldn't buy Miele laundry appliances; need for 220v power. All this being said don't think the T1 dryers are selling in any great numbers. No one seems to be talking about them in terms of user reviews. In fact have seen at least two units that were basically new being offered on CL. Am not going to stir those old pools, but am guessing there is some resistance to those two hour (or slightly more) drying times. |
Post# 1024323 , Reply# 3   2/11/2019 at 17:53 (1,871 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Would only need 120 volts, but if the washer has a heater in it you will still need more than one 120V 20 AMP circuit to run both at once.
A 120 V KM-WP compact dryer will still dry clothing faster, but will use over twice as much power, Jim if I were in that apartment a would install a compact WP gas dryer and just [ discreetly ] let it vent out a window while in use.
John L. |
Post# 1026898 , Reply# 8   3/12/2019 at 17:10 (1,842 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Miele is so spiteful they purposely designed out any possibility of North American consumers importing empty or whatever bottles of Ultraphase products from Europe.
But then again we are talking about Miele, have had enough experience with that lo that wouldn't trust them an inch. Other than on Hourzz, this site and maybe few others have heard very little about Miele T1 dryers in North America. Don't believe they are selling well as nearly no real world consumer reviews/information (other than previously mentioned) appears in various media. Saw a T1 on CL locally (Long Island) several months ago. Sellers wanted nearly what the thing cost new, and IIRC it was just that; they just didn't like it and couldn't return so were attempting to move the thing on. |
Post# 1026940 , Reply# 10   3/13/2019 at 06:59 (1,841 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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I have a heat pump dryer and have found that dryer sheets are useless anyway as it doesn't get hot enough to activate the scent in the sheet so quit using them. I use Lenor gold only as its the only one that does not irritate skin maybe thats because we have used it for so long but I digress. The dryer sheets are used on dog towels in the old vented dryer own the shed there are no sensors in it as its timed only and around 18 years old now.
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Post# 1027027 , Reply# 16   3/14/2019 at 10:25 (1,840 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 1027033 , Reply# 17   3/14/2019 at 11:17 (1,840 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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QuickIntense (or PowerWash) is a feature you really want to have. Sadly, they don't have model with that without TwinDos... |
Post# 1027045 , Reply# 20   3/14/2019 at 13:08 (1,840 days old) by iej (.... )   |   | |
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Cotton (Short option) does a very effective wash in 59 mins. I tend to use that for lightly soiled stuff - which is most of my clothes. If I'm doing towels they go on at 75°C and it takes about 2:14 to do. |
Post# 1027058 , Reply# 21   3/14/2019 at 13:43 (1,840 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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With a universal stacking kit you can stack a washer and a dryer from a different brand. Here's one on Amazon.
www.amazon.com/Daonanba-U... |
Post# 1027060 , Reply# 22   3/14/2019 at 14:09 (1,840 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 1027100 , Reply# 27   3/14/2019 at 23:13 (1,840 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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To be fair American consumers do like litigation and laws being what they are often a company (am looking at you Maytag) can't win for trying. Especially if things go to class action status.
With that in mind maybe Miele has decided to nip certain things in the but by taking away certain options. MieleUSA thus corporate parent in Germany is well aware of hobbyist groups such as ourselves. They also know information is exchanged, and while they can control official distribution channels, that always isn't case otherwise. |
Post# 1027107 , Reply# 28   3/15/2019 at 04:05 (1,840 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 1027153 , Reply# 31   3/15/2019 at 20:55 (1,839 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Far as one can tell neither of my AEG Lavamat washers will heat water after a set period. OTOH the much older Miele will engage thermostat anytime during wash cycle if it senses a drop in water temperature. Know this because there is a very audible "clunk" whenever thermostat engages and or turns off heaters.
Have to say always found it rather silly and wasteful to heat water with say < 10 or so minutes left in cycle. |
Post# 1027298 , Reply# 33   3/17/2019 at 12:42 (1,837 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Does not have the technology to dumb down water temperature I have zapped it many times with the laser temp probe and on a normal cottons 60c it heats to about 56c or should I say it peaks at 56c but if I use the Hygiene cycle it heats to exactly 60c and maintains that temperature for minimum of 12 minutes thus making it a lovely cycle to use for white bedding and towels as it activates the bleach in the powder and as its a longer wash portion of the cycle it gives fantastic results, On a side note I had to pull it out today to see if we had a leak on the pipes I had forgotten how bloody heavy it was..... My poor hernia.
Austin |
Post# 1027335 , Reply# 35   3/17/2019 at 16:45 (1,837 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Learned ages ago when first began using Persil that dosage direction on packets were rubbish. We have very soft water in NYS, and using recommended amounts would cause no end of troubles.
Indeed for nearly all European or any detergent from overseas find can use vastly less. That Saudi Arabian Persil Stan and I did a swap with calls for nearly one cup or more per wash load. Neither the Miele or either AEG would have any of it. |
Post# 1027385 , Reply# 36   3/18/2019 at 07:47 (1,836 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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We do have extremely soft water areas in Germany, but they`re not as prevalent as hard water areas.
What Americans define as moderately hard is still considered soft in Europe, but that doesn`t mean we don`t have very soft water too. It only means the span of the definition soft is bigger here. The biggest difference is that dosing instructions in Europe are based on 4,5 kg dry weight. In the US dosing instructions are typically based on a "medium load" which is only 4 lb of dry weight. 4 lb are roughly 1,8 kg or in other words a vintage Miele not even loaded half full of clothes. But to stay on topic what makes it so hard to use a second motor in an electric dryer ? I take it that European dryers are very limited in drum diameter because of standardized cabinet size. So you`d think proper reversing should be essential for drying large items evenly and wrinkle free. I wonder if it is because there is not enough room in the cabinet for an additional motor ? It`s not about costs only, is it ? |
Post# 1027391 , Reply# 38   3/18/2019 at 09:04 (1,836 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 1028754 , Reply# 39   4/2/2019 at 13:14 (1,821 days old) by JohnBee (USA, NY)   |   | |
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I live in NYC, it a 1100sqf apartment. My landlord approved Washer/Dryer installation.
First I tried a small Whirlpool TL with a Whirlpool compact dryer. 1.5 cu ft means I had to run more than 7-8 loads per week. we are a family of 2. The other issue, dryer vent. I had to take the vent outside the window each time I would like to run a load. A friend of mine was selling a brand new Kenmore portable front load washer. 2.1 cu ft but of course the dryer couldn't handle it. Then I saw an advertisement from Miele that their heatpump dryer could run under 120V! AWESOME. $1600 less on my account and 48 hours later the dryer was standing on the top of my new washer in the bathroom :) GUYS. THIS THING IS AMAZING. A huge load of towels will dry in less than an hour. No need to take the vent outside the window, no more lint flying around the bathroom and no more need to split the load. My Mother, Sister, Grandmother all of them they own Miele sets back in europe. |