Thread Number: 78549
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Help me Make an Informed Decision re: a Washing Machine |
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Post# 1025603 , Reply# 1   2/25/2019 at 11:10 (1,858 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)   |   | |
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Buy a clean refurbed super capacity Kenmore/Whirlpool direct drive washer. 2 piece dual action agitator and a speed select switch, if possible....and NO cold water washes!! |
Post# 1025605 , Reply# 2   2/25/2019 at 11:55 (1,858 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Your Kenmore is an "old-style" direct-drive mechanism, modified with the automatic water level sensing function ... a sort-of last-ditch effort to keep them viable toward the end of production under the more stringent energy regulation. That's the only effective difference it has compared to other direct-drive machines. Are you running primarily cold-water washes? That'll cause the gunk. In any machine. |
Post# 1025606 , Reply# 3   2/25/2019 at 12:13 (1,858 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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I’d like to recommend this model.
www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpoo... If you search for Loraine Furniture’s videos on YouTube, there are a few clips of this washer platform running. It’s cheap. Fairly durable by “today’s standards” and it’s simple. It has a classic agitator and uses more traditional amounts of water. It’s also repairable if anything like the bearing dies, or the electronics. I’m considering this model if my own supposedly “commercial technology” Maytag is condemned. |
Post# 1025646 , Reply# 9   2/25/2019 at 21:44 (1,858 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )   |   | |
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How close are you to Grand Rapids |
Post# 1025697 , Reply# 12   2/26/2019 at 09:27 (1,857 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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well really no matter what machine you have....with a septic, its usually recommended that a washer is either routed outside somewhere, or a gray tank installed...if possible....
no TL machine really does a good job with a puffy comforter bigger than a full size....quilts are usually a better choice... |
Post# 1025704 , Reply# 13   2/26/2019 at 09:53 (1,857 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Just a few cents of mine thrown in again.
Pertaining to the MVWB765, Eugene’s results really perplex me. **now I don’t at all want to sway your buying thoughts** But my parents have a MVWB765, and they like it. For over a year now it’s been getting all their clothes and bedding clean. I don’t at all discount Eugene’s results. He uses real good testing methods. My parents have had to tweak their thoughts on cycles, but they’ve found s groove that works. They’ve never used Deep Water yet. Only the bedding cycle. IDK if that matters.... I’m just so perplexed by the difference in results. If it acted as badly as that test, you better believe I’d hear about it from my mom ;) |
Post# 1025727 , Reply# 15   2/26/2019 at 14:08 (1,857 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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a washer draining into a septic is never a good idea....
that's a huge amount of water going in there per load, not to mention detergent and especially bleach, that will kill off the good bacteria to help your septic function properly... surprised when you have it pumped out, that the guy doesn't ask questions of not putting grease down the drain, where does your washer drain, and not to toss things like cig butts down there.... when ever we had a home with septic....the washers(yes I have several), dishwasher and bath tubs all went outside....note too, the grass on that side of the house was a lot thicker and greener... having ten kids, its sort of fun to play with grass and bleach....like for a party, a few ideas and templates, you can create a bunch of stuff/games....arrows, hopscotch, softball diamond, names, etc.....straight bleach in a sprayer will turn the grass yellow, eventually it will die off, and grow back super green and thick... in any case.....I think you would do good with another direct drive, for under 200.00...maybe with a few more options than your used to....try to find one from a reputable used appliance store with a warranty....never hurts to ask for a trade in discount... some only spit polish the exterior.....others will tear that machine down and scrub it from the inside out, these types have no issue with opening the cabinet to show you how clean it is... keep us posted on how you make out.... |
Post# 1025739 , Reply# 18   2/26/2019 at 16:24 (1,857 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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My washer(s) drains into my septic, for 14+ years. The county requires a maintenance contract, which I have with the original installers. They've never made any mention of it being a problem. I don't have a garbage disposer (electrical is in place for it but the builder didn't install one), I never put grease down the drain, and there has not yet been a need to pump-out any sludge. I use a powder dishwasher detergent with chlorine bleach, and usually use chlorine bleach on white laundry. It's an aerobic system. Three-section tank ... initial collection section where the particulates drop-out, aerobic treatment section with an aerator pump, and distribution/treatment section which has chlorine tablets and a discharge pump (sprays on the far-back area of the yard on a timed schedule via two standard sprinkler heads). |
Post# 1025782 , Reply# 25   2/26/2019 at 22:17 (1,857 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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If you're considering another DD (WP, KM or whatever), you might look for a model without the auto water level function. Those sensor switches tend to be the flaky item. You mentioned some repairs were done on your current machine, was that switch involved in any of them? Mid- and upper-level DDs had 4 and 5 water level choices and some are fully variable between min and max. KitchenAid-branded DDs are notable for typically having an agitator with larger fins and running at a slower speed (3-speed models) for reduced aggressiveness/wear on the clothes. |
Post# 1026056 , Reply# 31   3/2/2019 at 13:52 (1,853 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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$425 to $525 for a refurbed direct-drive.Oh my. Is that for only a washer, or a washer & dryer pair? I have a 1999 Kenmore 90 for sale at $325 that is rebuilt with a new tub support (centerpost & bearings), spin drive (shaft, brake & clutch), refurbed transmission (agitator shaft, spin gear & neutral drain parts, fresh oil). Only one inquiry in 6 months. I also have a 2003 Whirlpool that's similarly refurbed that I haven't yet tried to sell. Regards to F&P, do you mean new or used? Anyway, the agitator model runs a full-hot fill (or warm) on the Allergy cycle. The other cycles fill with the selected temperature only for a pretreatment phase which sprays a concentrated detergent solution over the load for a few mins, then adds cold water (without draining the pretreat solution) for the agitated wash period. They have auto-sensing water level and five manual choices (auto-sense selects one of the five). Low is just up to the bottom agitator fins, high is to top of the tub. Here's a YouTube channel with several videos of a current-model agitator F&P running various cycles and loads. JoeyPete Frontloaders are, of course, the best choice for water conservation. |
Post# 1026059 , Reply# 33   3/2/2019 at 14:45 (1,853 days old) by good-shepherd (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 1026212 , Reply# 38   3/4/2019 at 13:20 (1,851 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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Did you ask the local dealer if they’re willing to price match? The ones around here are always willing to match the lowest price, especially if it’s a big box store. |
Post# 1026281 , Reply# 39   3/5/2019 at 05:43 (1,850 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Several of our neighbors had their washers and dishwashers draining out onto their yards. But, a septic guy once told us that septic tanks need water and washing machine water is no problem for a septic tank. We never had any trouble out of ours in the 26 years we had it before the city installed sewer system. And we had a dishwasher and disposal. |
Post# 1026397 , Reply# 41   3/6/2019 at 07:35 (1,849 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Pedestals can be found on Craigslist for a massive discount the new price. They don’t really wear out, and they don’t have to color match each other or the washer/dryer they’re under. I like to have the machines lower and use the top as a work surface, can’t do that with pedestals. If they added anything to the new machines they probably also took something away that will be missed. Look at the unrelenting overall decline in materials and longevity of laundry appliances in general. The grey will look much better than white imo, and the newer ones only are available in white at this point. What is “turbo wash” called on the Kenmore version? |
Post# 1026413 , Reply# 42   3/6/2019 at 13:21 (1,849 days old) by Whatsername (Denver, CO)   |   | |
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