Thread Number: 78689
/ Tag: Modern Dishwashers
The “Woolite” of Dishwasher detergents |
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Post# 1026870   3/12/2019 at 09:06 (2,012 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)   |   | |
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Post# 1026875 , Reply# 1   3/12/2019 at 10:11 (2,012 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Madrid)   |   | |
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This is a good question and I'll be interested to hear what others have to say. CLICK HERE TO GO TO marky_mark's LINK |
Post# 1026882 , Reply# 2   3/12/2019 at 11:38 (2,012 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I've washed my grandparent's china in the dishwasher with Somat (made by Henkel) a few times. The gold trim didn't come off, but if I would do it more often I bet it would disappear in the end. Dishwasher detergents are way more agressive than laundry detergents. Every decor that is applied over the glaze will disappear in the end, but not by the first few times is my experience. But YMMV!
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Post# 1026892 , Reply# 3   3/12/2019 at 16:16 (2,012 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)   |   | |
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It has occurred to me to wash the delicates with a tsp of regular Dawn instead of dishwasher detergent. Thoughts?
I've also checked the link and might try some of the recommended liquid detergents for the US. We had an elderly GE contractor grade dishwasher for almost 15 years--it was already old when we bought the house. It was basically a rinse and dry machine. We had to pre rinse everything. Now with the Bosch, I find that the dishes are cleaner when I don't rinse them, but DH insists on rinsing... We've been using Sam's, Cascade and Finish pods. I can't remember what made Bruce decide to go for the name brand detergent--maybe because our Tervis tumblers get cloudy... Here's the Bosh. I went all high end with the third tier silverware rack and love it. |
Post# 1026893 , Reply# 4   3/12/2019 at 16:22 (2,012 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Melaleuca Diamond Brite is what I use when I don't want something harsh. It doesn't tarnish aluminum so I use it for all of my sheet pans.
I know Noritake says that most of their glazings were dishwasher safe. The lady that got me started on Diamond Brite uses it exclusively and washes her china, crystal and silver in her Miele that she's had for 19 years.
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Post# 1026896 , Reply# 5   3/12/2019 at 17:05 (2,012 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Or any other hand washing dish detergent isn't going to do much in a dishwasher other than create tons of froth.
As for the rest there is "fine china" and there is fine china. www.greenvilleonline.com/... If we're talking about something produced rather recently, say on or after the 1990's then with proper precautions automatic dishwashing may be fine. OTOH fine china from say before 1950's or even earlier such as going back decades before, I wouldn't trust them to anything else than careful hand washing. More so if the pattern is obsolete and thus any damaged pieces cannot be replaced. On the brighter side modern dishwashers are far less aggressive than in past. My vintage GE Mobile Maid has ruined two sets of every day dishes, Corelle coffee mugs, and countless glassware. Everything comes out etched and or otherwise marked from the forces they are subjected. So far only Ikea dishware seems to hold up. Automatic dishwasher detergents by nature are a rather caustic brew of chemicals. That is what it takes to break down and emulsify fats, oils, grease and other muck commonly found on dishes. One would think enzyme based formulas are somewhat milder, but they often contain oxygen bleach. That substance can be just as damaging to certain fine china as chlorine bleach. |
Post# 1026897 , Reply# 6   3/12/2019 at 17:05 (2,012 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)   |   | |
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Post# 1026899 , Reply# 7   3/12/2019 at 17:19 (2,012 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)   |   | |
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Post# 1027343 , Reply# 12   3/17/2019 at 18:47 (2,007 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1027386 , Reply# 13   3/18/2019 at 08:02 (2,006 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 1061624 , Reply# 14   2/27/2020 at 05:50 (1,660 days old) by olivia_davis (Clifton,NJ)   |   | |
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For gently cycle you may use a mild liquid dishwasher detergent that does not contain lemon or bleach, a powder detergent can be too grainy and abrasive on the china. Usually I use Cascade Gel |