Thread Number: 78839
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
I have only cold water source - any washers which have internal heaters? |
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Post# 1028245   3/28/2019 at 21:18 (2,019 days old) by OhMeOhMy (San Francisco, CA)   |   | |
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Are there any? I want to use the washer for cold, warm and hot water washing. I am in the US. Prefer front-loading machine. The location where I'd like to move my washer to has only cold water pipes. TY! |
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Post# 1028253 , Reply# 1   3/28/2019 at 21:48 (2,019 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Asko for sure can. According to their website, Asko can be switched from hot supply to no hot supply in the programming menu...it's a 240V machine. Not sure about Bosch on the water connections but it also is a 240V machine so it can heat up to 170F. My Miele can be switched between hot/no hot connection, but unsure about the new 120V Mieles....I think the 240V Little Giants can, but you'll pay dearly for one of them. |
Post# 1028255 , Reply# 2   3/28/2019 at 22:42 (2,019 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Greg has about your only choices...
for many of todays machines, a lot wont operate without both supplies attached... some will shut down if both supplies are not attached, and if it calls for hot, even for dispensing detergent only, and there is none, again, it will shut down... there are some machines that will detect of the water not being turned on, or if the hoses were reversed... some stuff you can by-pass, some you cannot... |
Post# 1028260 , Reply# 3   3/29/2019 at 00:11 (2,019 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Whirlpool has two 24" models with cold water connection only. They can't even be connected to hot water.
www.whirlpool.com/laundry... www.whirlpool.com/laundry/washer... |
Post# 1028274 , Reply# 4   3/29/2019 at 07:59 (2,018 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 1028318 , Reply# 5   3/29/2019 at 16:22 (2,018 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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I think you can connect the Miele W1 to cold water and it will heat the water. 120v is slower than 220V. |
Post# 1028329 , Reply# 6   3/29/2019 at 18:15 (2,018 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 1028331 , Reply# 7   3/29/2019 at 18:34 (2,018 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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If you ran multiple 240v ithings from one outlet off a power strip, at the same time, you run up against the total amperage of the outlet. Dryers are usually 30 amps and electric oven/stoves are 50 amps...hence the different plugs. What any given appliance may draw is another matter. Also There are cords that dumb down a 240 to two 120v outlets and so one. I had a guy want a dryer to run off the utility pedestal at an RV campground. It had 50 amp 240v but with a different plug than a dryer or oven use. I found you can order a plug/pig tail that fit the RV “shore power” pedestal and then you could install eyelets to attach to the dryer. |
Post# 1028368 , Reply# 8   3/30/2019 at 04:02 (2,018 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 1028370 , Reply# 9   3/30/2019 at 07:03 (2,017 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Blomberg also sell 240V in the US where both inlets can be cold water according to the manual.
www.blombergappliances.co... |
Post# 1028433 , Reply# 10   3/30/2019 at 18:21 (2,017 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"If someone in the USA decides to buy a 220V washer, would a 220V power strip work so you could plug that into the 220V dryer outlet, giving you more 220V outlets?"
Much would depend upon constant rated max load for power strip. Where possible something that is going to draw high loads for long periods (such as with resistance heating) you really want to plug it directly into wall outlet. That or if using a power strip (and or even an extension cord) the wiring must be able to withstand load without risk of over heating. No end of fires are started because of an overloaded power strip or extension cord. Power strips with built in circuit breakers likely will trip if demand is too great or near max for too long. Even with a 20amp rated power strip my WP portable dryer will cause it to trip if conditions are right. Usually the thing will be very warm which to me is an indication dryer is pulling too much power for strip to handle. Much of all this comes down to diameter wire used for cord/wiring on the power strip or extension cords. My AEG Lavamat washers, dryer, and Pfaff ironers all specifically warn against being used with power strips or extension cords. One is supposed to plug them into properly rated wall outlet only. |
Post# 1028447 , Reply# 11   3/30/2019 at 20:09 (2,017 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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There really is no such thing generally available, but Miele for example does sell a special power spliter that allows running two Miele laundry appliances that are both about 3000 watts on one 30 Amp 208-240 volt circuit.
It is also easy to make an adptor to allow two appliances to operate off one circuit, you just have to do it correctly and then there is NO hazard at all.
Note: there is generally no such thing as 220 volts in the US, when you hear someone saying 110 or 220 volts you immediately assume they don't know what they are talking about.
John |
Post# 1028467 , Reply# 12   3/30/2019 at 22:31 (2,017 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Did one a world of good: fgiasson.com/blog/index.php/2005/...
Eight ways to change people without giving offense or arousing resentment: 1.Begin with praise and honest appreciation 2.Call attention to people’s mistakes indirectly 3.Ask questions instead of giving direct orders 4.Let the other man save his face 5.Praise the slightest improvement and praise every improvement. Be “hearty in you approbation and lavish in your praise.” 6.Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to 7.Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct 8.Make the other person happy about doing the thing you suggest Just a bit of information, do with it what you will. |
Post# 1028468 , Reply# 13   3/30/2019 at 22:36 (2,017 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Oh I don't know.... You aren't going to be running a dryer or any other appliance that draws high amounts of power for long periods on this baby, but a washer might prove doable. Again we're talking about an appliance with "European" plug. Note without a way to ground this isn't a recommended solution out of the box. KRIEGER Universal Power Strip AC 220-240V Surge Protector with Heavy Duty German Schuko Plug www.amazon.com/Universal-... |
Post# 1028473 , Reply# 14   3/30/2019 at 22:56 (2,017 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 1028496 , Reply# 15   3/31/2019 at 03:53 (2,017 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)   |   | |
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Well, in John`s defense there`s diplomacy which isn`t a bad thing and then there`s plain bootlicking or even sarcasm.
"Begin with praise and honest appreciation" could be misinterpreted. Personally prefer it straight in the face if someone wants to criticize me over giving me BS. We have a similar situation in Germany so that 220V does not exist. At least not anymore as the voltage got raised to 230V somewhere in the 80s I think. Most people (including myself) still say 220 when they mean 230 just because 220 was the golden standard for decades, in some areas even from right the beginning of electrification. I have my doubts they all don`t know what they are talking about. I could imagine a lot of people in the US still say 110 when they actually mean 120. |
Post# 1028561 , Reply# 16   3/31/2019 at 17:52 (2,016 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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That's a nice looking machine, I'm kinda interested. |
Post# 1028646 , Reply# 18   4/1/2019 at 08:12 (2,015 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 1030071 , Reply# 21   4/16/2019 at 15:20 (2,000 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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The washer is 120V. |
Post# 1030108 , Reply# 22   4/17/2019 at 04:58 (2,000 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I guess we will never see the end of this, the OP has never responded to the first post, neither here or on houzz.com.
www.houzz.com/discussions... |