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Thread Number: 78846
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Maytag Commercial Washer MVWP575GW Warranty Repair |
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| Post# 1028285 3/29/2019 at 10:30 (2,076 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
 My Maytag Commercial Washer started making a clicking/clanging noise in the spin cycle a couple of weeks ago. I assumed a suspension rod was the culprit, so I scheduled a service call. The technician came this morning. He checked out a few things and then declared that the noise is a transmission issue and that the transmission will need to be replaced. He said they've been replacing quite a few of them.
I'm not convinced that's the issue but it is under warranty. So now, they need to order parts. When those come in, they'll come and pick it up and take it to the shop for three or four days.
Good thing I still have my 1967 Maytag in the garage!
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Post# 1028290 , Reply# 2 3/29/2019 at 10:59 (2,076 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Maytag Washer MVWP575 Problems | ||
| Post# 1028300 , Reply# 3 3/29/2019 at 13:05 (2,075 days old) by DE409 (Maryland) | ||
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All you had to do was tip the SQ slightly in the display and you could feel the extra weight of all the solid construction. The Maytag Commercial looked old-school but felt cheap. | ||
| Post# 1028334 , Reply# 4 3/29/2019 at 19:11 (2,075 days old) by Supersurgilator (Indiana) | ||
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Ok I'm a bit confused because I didn't think these machines had transmissions? | ||
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Post# 1028344 , Reply# 6 3/29/2019 at 20:45 (2,075 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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| Post# 1028345 , Reply# 7 3/29/2019 at 20:48 (2,075 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1028346 , Reply# 8 3/29/2019 at 21:12 (2,075 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA) | ||
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How reliable has the control panel (electronics) been on this washer? | ||
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Post# 1028351 , Reply# 10 3/29/2019 at 22:24 (2,075 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 1028354 , Reply# 11 3/29/2019 at 22:32 (2,075 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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gearless Only ones I can think of is Philco-Ford,Pre-WCI Kelvinator,and F&P Smartdrive :) | ||
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Post# 1028372 , Reply# 12 3/30/2019 at 07:45 (2,075 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Gearless TL Washers Hundreds Of Thousands Of Whirlpool Cabrios, Maytag Bravos, And Kenmore's built over the last ten years or so.
Basically all the better models with the floating basket, these used a lot of F&P patents and technology, but were much better built machines than the F&Ps. F&Ps had cheap plastic tops, diverter valve problems, inlet valve problems and pump problems.
Unfortunately WP has gone to less reliable top load washers with a mode snifter and reduction gear boxes on current even TOL models because the DD motor can be 1/2 the size and the motor is far the most costly part of these washers, this is why these cheaper VMW models use a belt because they can use a much cheaper to build more conventional motor.
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Post# 1028384 , Reply# 13 3/30/2019 at 10:27 (2,075 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 1028401 , Reply# 14 3/30/2019 at 13:30 (2,074 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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There were certain models of a verry specific time frame that used a transmission on one of the motors. No idea how, which and what for, but there was certainly the talk about "Getriebemotoren" on several YT videos. | ||
| Post# 1028405 , Reply# 16 3/30/2019 at 14:22 (2,074 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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Post# 1028420 , Reply# 18 3/30/2019 at 16:38 (2,074 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Maytag Washer MVWP575 Design Hi Pink, I love your enthusiasm for this new washer, But it is still a s..t design, I could not imagine buying and using one, there are just much better options if you want a traditional washer, used comes to mind.
First of all it is much harder to work on than WP DD washer, parts are also much more expensive.
They upgraded a few parts, the heavier belt and better water seal may help, the 1/2 HP motor is just marketing hype, there has never been a motor failure in a washer because the motor is too weak or small, in fact washers with bigger motors usually suffer more repair problems. This washer still has the same bearings and gear box shaft sizes etc, same cheap tub cover, outer tub and flimsy suspension springs.
There is a commercial version of these washers and THEY ARE NOT HOLDING UP WELL AT ALL, ask any commercial laundry provider, very few of these are being sold for real commercial use. My brother is maintaining 16 of these washers in a near by condo building and they are not doing well.
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Post# 1028425 , Reply# 19 3/30/2019 at 17:11 (2,074 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Getriebemotor
I have only found one video where they mentioned that. I'll link it here. It doesn't look like there is a transmission connected to that motor.
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| Post# 1028437 , Reply# 21 3/30/2019 at 19:02 (2,074 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA) | ||
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| Post# 1028439 , Reply# 22 3/30/2019 at 19:39 (2,074 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA) | ||
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Transmission-Less TL Washers The GE Harmony is direct drive. I think that goes for the LG Hydrowave too. | ||
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Post# 1028444 , Reply# 23 3/30/2019 at 19:55 (2,074 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay) |
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| Post# 1028450 , Reply# 24 3/30/2019 at 20:16 (2,074 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 1028475 , Reply# 25 3/30/2019 at 23:12 (2,074 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
I still can't believe
the environmentalist movement isn't all over these new "energy efficient" appliances that end up causing the environment MORE harm than good. Even though a 1967 Maytag is not energy efficient, I'm sure that when all is said and done, it's more environmentally friendly than the latest/greatest for the mere fact that it lasts decades and is repairable vs something new that if you're majorly lucky will last 5 to 10 years.
I've loved my Duet Front Load that is now 14 years old. I was told when I bought it that I'd be lucky to get 5 years out of it MAX. I do not want a TL washer after having my Duet all these years. I just wish someone made a reliable front load washer that has a heater because how much longer can my Duet POSSIBLY LAST?? | ||
| Post# 1028500 , Reply# 26 3/31/2019 at 06:38 (2,074 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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I stopped by a local used appliance dealer a few months ago and he had tons of NEWER washers sitting outside. I asked him where he gets them. He said that most of them are haul aways that he picks up from Home Depot and Lowes. He also had older stuff but most of the inventory seemed to be newer vertical modular stuff by Whirlpool, etc. | ||
| Post# 1028522 , Reply# 27 3/31/2019 at 09:28 (2,074 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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@reply 25 That Duet might(likely will)run a long time yet-my He3 is about to turn 18 and no signs of trouble yet though inlet valve will seep at times. | ||
| Post# 1028527 , Reply# 28 3/31/2019 at 10:54 (2,074 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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as a tech that repaired the duet dryer that my mom and i own its best to keep or older machines they will out live the newer machines of today if for x reason duet washer needed to be replace witch i hope not would try to fine A direct drive washer like in the pic or a vintage 1976 canadien kenmore washer dryer set even if the vintage set would be harvest gold
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| Post# 1028560 , Reply# 29 3/31/2019 at 16:56 (2,073 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1028664 , Reply# 30 4/1/2019 at 12:11 (2,073 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
This is seriously disappointing.
I thought, like we all did, that WP was taking this washer seriously. Apparently they have not. If anything, the warranty costs will tip their hand. Hearing this adds fuel to the fire of my slowly ailing Maxima FL. Very dissatisfying indeed. Is WP TRYING to hand the market over to LG, SS???? I still love WPs kitchen appliances. But I’m officially done with their laundry stuff. They have given up. | ||
| Post# 1028675 , Reply# 31 4/1/2019 at 15:50 (2,072 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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| Post# 1028677 , Reply# 32 4/1/2019 at 16:53 (2,072 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
Ever since Whirlpool came out with the new BD washers in late 2010 early 2011, the quality has tanked ever since. Sometimes I browse my local or Los Angeles Craigslist to see if any vintage machines pop up, and there are a lot of Used WP/KM DD machines, but I haven’t seen as many of the newer BD machines on Craigslist, and I have a feeling that a lot of the newer BD machines have been junked since they are very problematic as they age
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Post# 1029140 , Reply# 33 4/6/2019 at 17:24 (2,067 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Maytag Washer MVWP575 Design We replaced the stripped out transmission today in the almost 1 year old MT MVWP575, here are pictures of the old transmission, we drilled out the punch rivets and opened it up. | ||
| Post# 1029166 , Reply# 35 4/6/2019 at 23:38 (2,067 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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The fact that the transmission is riveted together is the first clue that Whirlpool didn't design the gearbox to be serviced but only replaced as a unit. I just looked at the parts diagram for this model on a parts supplier website and that verified what I thought. None of the gearbox parts are sold individually.
A few months ago, I stopped by a local used appliance dealer and he had dozens of Whirlpool vertical modular washers sitting around that he's picked up from Lowe's and Home Depot. It's a shame that Whirlpool has designed a washer that is so cheap that it ends up being scrapped in five years or less.
I was hoping to get many years of service out of this Maytag. However, I imagine I'll be scrapping it after five years, because there's no way I'm going to pay $250 to replace a gearbox or $350 for an electronic control board after the warranty expires!
The irony is that these complicated and over engineered designs are partly to meet government environmental standards. With so many of these bypassing the recycling yard and ending up in land fills, I'd say government regulations designed to protect the environment are a dismal failure.
It's a good thing I have a 1967 Maytag and a 1989 Whirlpool DD sitting in the garage! | ||
| Post# 1029167 , Reply# 36 4/6/2019 at 23:49 (2,067 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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| Post# 1029258 , Reply# 37 4/8/2019 at 08:27 (2,066 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 1029407 , Reply# 38 4/9/2019 at 22:33 (2,064 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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Well, they picked up the old girl yesterday. The technician called today and said it is ready to be delivered tomorrow with the repair complete. He said they replaced the gearbox, the splutch (not sure what that is), and the actuator. I guess Whirlpool/Maytag requires the splutch and actuator to be replaced with the gearbox. Don't know. | ||
| Post# 1029415 , Reply# 39 4/10/2019 at 00:09 (2,064 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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It is disappointing how you can’t buy traditional top loaders anymore. I mean this is getting ridiculous, and how the commercial coin op Whirlpool washers don’t hold up, and need constant repairs to keep them going. I remember being at Best Buy around Christmas time, and a customer was asking if they sold top loaders with mechanical timers, the sales person who was there said they didn’t sell them, and the only place you could buy them from was used appliance stores and markets, and that gives you an idea of how some people want the old school top loaders with mechanical timers back.
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Post# 1029419 , Reply# 40 4/10/2019 at 04:26 (2,064 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Maytag85: ... and that gives you an idea of how some people want the old school top loaders with mechanical timers back."Some people" is a key point. I've had a fully rebuilt Kenmore 90 direct-drive (new tub support/centerpost bearings, basket drive/brake/agitate bearings, transmission serviced with new agitator shaft, neutral drain kit, and fresh oil) for sale for months, no interest. | ||
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Post# 1029420 , Reply# 41 4/10/2019 at 04:47 (2,064 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1029431 , Reply# 42 4/10/2019 at 07:49 (2,064 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Maytag Washer MVWP575 Design Glad they are getting it fixed, Buy why did they remove it from your home ?
This is an easy less than one hour repair and WP does not pay transportation costs to and from the shop, be very sure they don't try to charge you anything.
It is not necessary to replace the Splutch or shift actuator, but the servicer can replace anything they want as long as they don't get carried away and WP comes after them, you can ask for the old parts if you want but when under warranty they do not have to give them to you but often will.
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| Post# 1029451 , Reply# 43 4/10/2019 at 09:55 (2,064 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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why did they remove it from your home ? | ||
| Post# 1029481 , Reply# 44 4/10/2019 at 13:39 (2,063 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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| Post# 1029498 , Reply# 45 4/10/2019 at 16:37 (2,063 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 1029559 , Reply# 46 4/10/2019 at 23:36 (2,063 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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Hi mark.
You can see the convo here. www.automaticwasher.org/c... Oh and I’ve posted here too: www.appliancejunk.com/for... | ||
| Post# 1029597 , Reply# 47 4/11/2019 at 14:29 (2,062 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 1030262 , Reply# 49 4/19/2019 at 11:02 (2,055 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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Haha! It's Back! Well, the washer worked just fine for a few loads with no untoward noises. But guess what? The same noise is back! | ||
| Post# 1030263 , Reply# 50 4/19/2019 at 11:18 (2,055 days old) by DE409 (Maryland) | ||
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Wow, that's pretty poor. So much for my hopes of upgrading to one of these someday! | ||
| Post# 1032373 , Reply# 53 5/11/2019 at 08:18 (2,033 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas) | ||
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@ Stchuck Sorry to hear that! I had two warranty repairs for the same gearbox issue within ten days of each other. Both times, they took the machine to the shop for three days. That's why I purchased a home style Commercial Speed Queen set and converted them to the older 9 Series by swapping the control panels out. | ||
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Post# 1032384 , Reply# 56 5/11/2019 at 11:19 (2,033 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 1032506 , Reply# 58 5/13/2019 at 06:23 (2,031 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 1032666 , Reply# 60 5/14/2019 at 21:35 (2,029 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Maytag Washer MVWP575 Warranty Has a 5 year warranty that covers ALL PARTS & Labor with in home service, READ your warranty, if someone told me that electronics were not covered etc I would be on the phone so fast with MT-WP, again READ your warranty there are no exclusions for ANY parts and labor when the machine is used in normal household conditions.
If service is refused demand your full purchase price back from the dealer you bought it from.
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| Post# 1032670 , Reply# 61 5/14/2019 at 22:20 (2,029 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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If I ever had a newer style of the so called “commercial washer” Maytag washer, and when it and if it broke after 5 or so years, I would just send it off to the crusher since it’s not worth fixing them if the repair(s) aren’t guaranteed, and most newer Whirlpool VMW are just money pits when things go wrong. I am surprised Whirlpool hasn’t been sued for their terrible quality and reliability.
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Post# 1033558 , Reply# 63 5/24/2019 at 19:40 (2,019 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Transmission out of a five-year-old Maytag commercial
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| Post# 1033567 , Reply# 64 5/24/2019 at 20:43 (2,019 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) | ||
 >> We replaced the stripped out transmission today in the almost 1 year old MT MVWP575, >> here are pictures of the old transmission, we drilled out the punch rivets and opened it up. John, for those of us who don’t know, what specifically is the failure point of these transmissions? I might be missing something, but it looks like the plastic gears and everything internal to the unit are in good shape, as are the short plastic and metal splined shafts on one side of the trans. Is it just rust damage on the shallow splines of the tub and agitator output shafts that causes slippage on one of those connections? | ||
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Post# 1033584 , Reply# 65 5/25/2019 at 05:40 (2,019 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Hi Dave, the transmission that we took a part that I put pictures up of earlier in this thread, the gears looked pretty good but they did slip when we put them under heavy load as it does in the washer but the wear was not immediately apparent when you take it apart.
I am not gonna bother taking apart this rusty mess in fact it’s going to hit the scrapper this morning when we clean out the shop Later this morning. John | ||
| Post# 1033614 , Reply# 66 5/25/2019 at 19:18 (2,018 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa) | ||
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That's a bummer. I wonder if they, either by design, materials, or manufacturing faults, didn't get the sizing correct on the gears? (Such as fractionally undersized planets?) Or perhaps the outer ring gear, being plastic, has enough flex to distort and be pushed away from the gears when under load? Either way, if those gear issues were resolved in a part revision, the severe rusting issues evident on the tub and agitator shafts makes it look like they would be right in line to fail next. It's just not going to last either way. | ||
| Post# 1086345 , Reply# 67 8/24/2020 at 15:33 (1,561 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI) | ||
No more Maytag Commercial for me and my Relatives
I now don't feel comfortable recommending this piece of garbage to my relatives. Speed Queen TC5 or LG WM3400CW or WM3900HW. I would rather service them. I will now NEVER Work on a Vertical modular washer. The only "VMW Style" machine I will ever work on again. If it is really this cheap then Forget it.
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| Post# 1086445 , Reply# 68 8/25/2020 at 06:19 (1,561 days old) by Oldschool88 (NJ) | ||
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The pics of the rusted output shafts are disgusting. Bad triple-lip seal, or just bad engineering of the tub seals in general?? Pic below is the dead transmission from my Maytag Atlantis MAVT754EWW after 15 hard years of use...no rust or corrosion anywhere.
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Post# 1086523 , Reply# 72 8/25/2020 at 15:35 (1,560 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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 I have the Roper RTW4516FW2 ( the sister ship of the Amana NTW4516FW) and its great! The Normal cycle on auto sense, hot water wash is my go to setting. Its not a water waster, but it does use an adequate amount of water to do the job its designed for well. I just add the detergent and LCB if I’m using it and press start, and in 34 mins flat I have perfectly washed, rinsed and spun out laundry. If I select the deep fill option, it fills to the very last row of holes in the tub and the turn over is just as good as any vintage TL. And it NEVER fails to balance and spin.
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| Post# 1086525 , Reply# 74 8/25/2020 at 15:49 (1,560 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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Reviewed.com does not like the Roper RTW4516FW, maybe the Roper RTW4516FW2 is new and improved? That said I don’t know if I agree with them about a whole lot myself, just putting it out there. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK | ||
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Post# 1086526 , Reply# 75 8/25/2020 at 16:02 (1,560 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Agiflow4, I’d buy one again too. Mine doesn’t shake while its spinning, its smooth as silk and pretty quiet too.
As far as what Reviewed.com thinks about it, I really don’t care. The proof is in the pudding. I can’t begin to count the number of times I’ve made a purchase based upon a so called favorable review, only to be abysmally disappointed.
I base my purchases now by reading several, sometimes hundreds of actual owner/user reviews of a product. Those that own and use a product really know the pros and cons. A paid reviewer has maybe used the product a handful of times and comes up with their so called educated opinion. And IMO, Consumer Reports is no longer even worth the paper its printed on. In its heyday they gave in depth reviews, not anymore.
I also firmly believe the fewer bell and whistles any appliance or car for that matter has, the better. All that extraneous crap is just something else to break down, fail to do what its supposed to and disappoint the owner. Less is more.
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Post# 1086533 , Reply# 76 8/25/2020 at 16:54 (1,560 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Models RTW4516FW0 RTW4516FW1 RTW4516FW2 The last digit is engineering revision. It starts at 0 and increments through production for minor revisions such as sourcing a switch from a different vendor or maybe a control board programming change such as not locking the lid during fill. Reviewed.com: "... the Casual cycle left 101% of the rinse water in the laundry." ? | ||
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Post# 1086543 , Reply# 78 8/25/2020 at 18:08 (1,560 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Agiflow I feel the same way about porcelain tubs too. And I’ve also washed very large loads without a hitch too. I don’t do this often, but when I need to wash 2 King size pillows or a king size comforter, blanket or bedspread it handles these loads flawlessly on the Bulky cycle.
And only once has it gone out of balance, while washing the rubber tub mat with the bathroom throw rug and waffle weave mat for in front of the tub. The rubber tub mat bunched up, not an uncommon thing for this kind of load with any washer. I just paused the machine, redistributed the load and it finished without a problem.
Last week on wash day I did 3 large loads in 2.5 hrs., thats washed, dried and folded. Even with a spin speed of only 700 rpms, most loads dry in the same time as the next load takes to wash, 34 mins. This is the kind of efficiency I look for in a washer. We use cloth napkins everyday, and they always end up with salad dressing stains prior to washing them. These napkins come out perfectly clean every time without a trace of an oil stain. This machine just does what its supposed to do without any drama.
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| Post# 1086662 , Reply# 80 8/26/2020 at 12:43 (1,559 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
As a fan of Whirlpool myself, this just hurts to read. I will be looking into getting a brand new washer and dryer for my own home soon and I think I'm leaning towards on going for a TL. I'm already considering looking into getting a SQ TC5, I did however considered looking into getting the Maytag Commercial instead but the only things that made me want the SQ over the Maytag is that for one it can use straight hot water and two SQ has known to be very reliable. I would trust that the SQ would last longer than the Maytag but never I would've thought that the Maytag would already be having issues shortly after they would exit out of the factory. Another thing too is that I've watched this video between the Maytag Commercial and the SQ TC5. I was a bit worried that the Maytag would overheat on full loads with cold water since I'm looking into trying out some cold wash detergent to see which I would like better between that and the regular ones. But I wasn't sure if this video was ever accurate at all or not. Now after reading this thread, I guess maybe so.
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| Post# 1086841 , Reply# 83 8/27/2020 at 17:03 (1,558 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Hi there,
Yes I would believe that the Maytag can actually clean better than the TC5. In fact, I've seen the video from Lorain Furniture and Appliance on YouTube about the comparison between the Maytag and the SQ. BTW Eugene if you're reading this, thank you for making those videos. I may not be an expert but your videos has definitely helped me learn alot more about washers and dryers. Anyways, I think I would rather have reliability and straight hot water as long as the washer works like it should. I'm usually a clean person myself so I may not need something that would clean as well as the Maytag but I certainly wouldn't want something that would clean gentler as the TR series. Otherwise I may as well go for a FL. I'm actually curious though of where you've heard that SQ is moving forward with their TR series? I find it hard to believe that the TC5 would be going away anytime soon. Especially since that model was a game changer for SQ with the demand of going back to their old and tried design, also it actually cleans better than the TR series, and I've heard that it is now one of SQ's best sellers. I've also heard that the TR series would cost pennies more when it comes to energy use. I would imagine that SQ could come out with more classic models like maybe the TC3 and/or the TC7. Actually if SQ does happen to come out with maybe the TC7 similar to the 9 series or at least the 8 series (Maybe call it the TC6 with that one), I think I'd be sold right there. | ||
| Post# 1086945 , Reply# 85 8/28/2020 at 10:37 (1,558 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Hi there again,
I guess I will have to wait and see of what's available when the time comes for me to purchase a matching washer and dryer. It wouldn't make sense for me to purchase the TC5 and DC5 now than later or otherwise they would sit in my storage shed and have the warranty expire cause it would be at least a few years until that happens. If the Maytag Commercial would still be in production around that time, I will ask my local dealer or repair technician to see if they would still be worth going for. Another alternative choice that I've also looked into is a commercial SQ TL washer like the SWNMN2SP115TW01 for example. From my understanding, it is supposed to be the same mechanically as their traditional TL washers. I think those would still be around because I don't think the TR series are even good enough to be used for commercial use. I'm not sure if I even want to go for a Amana or a Roper, I hear mixed thoughts about them. Recently my brother and sister-in-law purchased a Maytag MVW7230HW and they seem to like it so far. That might be another choice that I could look into if a dealer or technician would recommend it. But again, I'll just have to wait and see. | ||
| Post# 1086953 , Reply# 86 8/28/2020 at 11:46 (1,558 days old) by Agiflow4 () | ||
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I can say from personal experience about the Amana that it washes very well and works very well. Take that for what it's worth. | ||
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| Post# 1086975 , Reply# 89 8/28/2020 at 14:37 (1,557 days old) by Agiflow4 () | ||
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Correct Glenn. The Amana and Roper are just cheaper variants,..BUT you have more water level choices through auto fill. | ||
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I should correct "choices" rather there are more variables of water levels. | ||
| Post# 1087161 , Reply# 91 8/29/2020 at 17:32 (1,556 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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I'm aware that Amana and Roper are both owned by Whirlpool.
I will admit, they both look like they can clean well. In fact since reading the last replies from above, I went to watch some videos of them in action. I was actually impressed with the performance. BUT, I would want something that not only cleans well but also last a very long time. Other than just washing and drying clothes, I've never taken apart a washer before. I have with a dryer before but that's just for cleaning lint out. As of now, I would be a bit uncomfortable taking apart a washer for repairing. I would really be bothered if either the Amana or the Roper would break on me within a few years of use as well as trying to repair either one. For the price that it's worth, I don't think I would want to waste as much for having a repair technician come over and fix it cause I could just buy another same washer for almost the same price. And I'd also rather not want to replace it with another one for multiple of reasons. Anyways, I think I'm all in with going for the SQ TC5 and DC5 if it would still be around by the time I'm ready for my own set which I seriously hope that it will. | ||
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Post# 1087177 , Reply# 92 8/29/2020 at 18:13 (1,556 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Maytag MVWP575 This MT washer that I mentioned earlier in this thread has eaten another transmission and will now be scraped in just over 4 years, the customer does not want to spend the labor to replace it again, also WP does not have any transmissions available anyway and they do not want to wait.
These MTs are not much better than the $500 Ropers and Amanas, WPs etc.
When you consider that a SQ TL washer is only twice a much it really is the best value and when you consider the operating cost + twice the life span the SQ FL washer at around $1800 is the best value + SUPERIOR performance compared to any of these flimsy light weight TL washers.
John L.
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Post# 1087494 , Reply# 94 9/1/2020 at 09:39 (1,554 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1096821 , Reply# 95 11/12/2020 at 06:55 (1,482 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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MVWP575 MT Washer Failures The machine I mentioned in reply # 92 they decided to fix after all , it took almost 2 months for WP to get us a transmission.
This is the 2nd transmission with stripped gears and the shafts were so rusty that it also stripped out the plastic drive hub.
All WP built TL washers since 2010 with belt drive are not great machines and are usually not worth repairing.
Pictures of the 2nd failed transmission in the MT MVWP575 in less than 3 years.
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Post# 1096835 , Reply# 97 11/12/2020 at 09:02 (1,482 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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101% Yeah, that is what that means. Ugh, really depends. Cotton's spun at 800rpm in a EU FL are said to be 70% | ||
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Post# 1097290 , Reply# 98 11/16/2020 at 15:23 (1,477 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1097298 , Reply# 99 11/16/2020 at 16:16 (1,477 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Someone will correct if wrong ... 1) I believe this piece (pictured upside down?) is part of the rotation & speed sensing process. 2) (bottom of the transmission) The mode shifter mounts to the bottom and has an optical reader that fits up into one of the slots (don't recall which) and around edge of the cog, monitors via the notches the rotation and speed of the transmission during spin ... keeps the lid locked until rotation stop. | ||
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Post# 1097336 , Reply# 100 11/16/2020 at 22:32 (1,477 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1097357 , Reply# 101 11/17/2020 at 07:08 (1,477 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Post# 1097546 , Reply# 102 11/18/2020 at 18:13 (1,475 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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John, quite trolling "came with a broken belt, good condition, but crushed" You kill the spirit of this forum. I'd have gladly taken it in despite not doing thermal holds and needing 140-150*F hot water which I know you will use as an excuse not to rebuild and re-sell. Along with the classical "these were never good performing machines, what was Maytag thinking, lol"
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Post# 1097570 , Reply# 103 11/19/2020 at 00:46 (1,475 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Quite Trolling ??? If you want to come out of the appliance closet I will be happy to give you [ or anyone else ] any of the appliances we are sending for recycling .
I see over 100 appliances recycled every WEEK, we still see center dial MTs, GE FFS , WP-KM BD machines, and more porcelain tub KAs than I can even think about. Along with tons of cool newer stuff.
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Post# 1097583 , Reply# 105 11/19/2020 at 05:32 (1,475 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Appliance closet? Not sure what closet you're talking about. Or that one even exists besides hiding my mechanical interests from most people.
Anyway, I'd start taking pictures and putting them up for offer before scrapping them. A week or as the dumpster is filling would be enough. You're area has some of the best stuff.
What about GE dishwashers? I know condos around here are next to Louisville's appliance park lol. | ||
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Post# 1097589 , Reply# 106 11/19/2020 at 07:43 (1,475 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1097649 , Reply# 107 11/19/2020 at 17:24 (1,474 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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It would make a museum of sorts. I'd love to see weekly update's of John's pile, and machines in good shape with money shots. The pics alone have value for me. Unique models, memories, a tally of what was common for that area, ect. Plus I'd love to see a machine and ask about it. Or have it set aside should I get serious about pickup.
I think John should make a Washarama type website. I'd be happy to make the captions ;) | ||
| Post# 1097663 , Reply# 109 11/19/2020 at 20:21 (1,474 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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I have passed up on quite a few older Maytag A806 sets and belt drives sets but I think there’s a reason for that and if I got those sets I wouldn’t have ended up with my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set I picked up back in July of this year. One of THE nicest sets I’ve acquired so far and I’d post a picture but I’ve already posted a bunch of photos of it so far.
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Post# 1097693 , Reply# 111 11/20/2020 at 07:51 (1,474 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1097708 , Reply# 112 11/20/2020 at 10:41 (1,474 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1097749 , Reply# 113 11/20/2020 at 18:24 (1,473 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 1153077 , Reply# 114 7/2/2022 at 04:50 (885 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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Maytag commercial at lowe's I saw the new Maytag Commercial at Lowe's. They felt cheap on the inside. The only thing that felt sturdy was the cabinet and belt. | ||
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Post# 1153098 , Reply# 117 7/2/2022 at 10:37 (885 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 1153171 , Reply# 118 7/3/2022 at 09:23 (884 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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maytag 576 Yes. I tilted the machine to get a feel of what the undercarriage was like. It looked just like the 575. I saw it at Lowe's. | ||
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Post# 1153209 , Reply# 119 7/3/2022 at 13:39 (883 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Removable Front Panel On MT Commercial Models Is just a sales gimmick, there is nothing you can really service with the front off and these models have a crappy frame because the front comes off and a lot of sharp edges of steel that will rust.
The one piece models are more rigid, These VMW machines are so light it is simple to just pull them away from the wall about 18" and tilt the machine back against the wall and replace or service anything under it.
On the models with the removable front I never brother to take the front off for repairs, its just more work.
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Post# 1153235 , Reply# 120 7/3/2022 at 18:16 (883 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) |
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Post# 1153239 , Reply# 121 7/3/2022 at 19:24 (883 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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How I found out... I gently tilted the machine back and put my hand under the machine carefully. The belt seemed to have more ribs, but that's as far as quality goes. The cabinet did feel slightly heavy. | ||
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