Thread Number: 78862
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Whirlpool Calypso - The Old Gal -Not Dead but "gone away" |
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Post# 1028472   3/30/2019 at 22:53 (1,824 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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I posted this in, of all places, Shopper's Square! I have been away myself! ha!
Anyway - I hope you are all doing something more spring like...though in the south, it hasn't been much of a winter. I am just recovering from...and I'll skip the details..but I have a much better internet to enjoy some of my favorite websites, like aw.org. Around 2015-16 I bought a Whirlpool Calypso set from a couple..KQ2 Washer and KQ3 Dryer Today the washer decided to turn on itself when we weren't looking; choosing to wash clothes later today, it was preset and frozen at the Wool setting. The only way to de-select it was to unplug the washer. I expected the panel to fail. Why? Because the dryer panel failed the end of last year and I had a donor with a good panel to revive it...working again. But, I have no washer donor for the panel and I know WELL about the cost of replacement. I'm not going there! I think this washer had a good life; we only got four years of its total life, that's all. So it has been fun using these. I replaced the dryer panel from a donor unit, it's up and running fine. But with the washer Ka-PUTT, I thought, "now what?" If I find a donor washer...but meanwhile...without dredging through the archives, does anyone like the newer machines? I fear a black hole...they're so huge...not a fan of the bloated electronic behemoths. I still thank DaDoes for initially having me look at the doomed Calypso's and Martin(YogiTunes)for his feedback on my units. Is there anything recently made, used, worth considering? I had a front loader long ago, Frigidaire set that were excellent, but alot changed since 1998. Thanks for any ideas ...or not. A video I just made tonight on youtube: CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK |
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Post# 1028491 , Reply# 1   3/31/2019 at 01:29 (1,824 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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oddly enough, I got to play with an LG TL HE machine at John's warehouse...I have wanted to for a while to see what they were like....
and if given a choice, or if I come across one, I wanted to add one to the collection... all in all, it did a nice job for an impellor machine.... Kudos to Eugene for the vids.... ps, your link didn't work for me..... |
Post# 1028513 , Reply# 2   3/31/2019 at 08:11 (1,824 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Sorry about your Calypso, those are fun washers to use. I had a client with one that had a drain pump die about six months ago, she elected to not repair given it's age and it was gone before I could grab it.
I had a LG top-load washer here for six months or so and thought it was a fine washer. I found that for very large loads, dumping a couple of pitchers of water on the load before starting fooled the machine into a full-to-the-brim fill for lots of sloshing drama. Left to it's own devices, it did a fine job, though. I've recommended them to several people that are set on buying top-load machines. |
Post# 1028531 , Reply# 3   3/31/2019 at 11:32 (1,824 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Hi Martin -
On my Calypso- I just plugged it in, and I was able to select "Quick Wash". I tossed in some clothes and just as I was ready to press START, the selection reverted to "Wool" again and it won't respond to ANY button pressed, lid up, down or any combo of buttons. I have a tech manual for the dryer, but not the washer and I'm not going there. Just thought this information would be "fun" to relay. Haha.heehee.boohoo. That's just what I need - a top-loader, as there isn't much room for me/us to have a front loader. On that video...the comment of throwing away the sox...LOL . My grandmother used to say, "throw them in a bowl/sink and give them good hand scrubbing with Ivory soap!". Anyway- was there extra water thrown in there beforehand as gansky1 mentioned? It looked like more water was there than what our Calypso used. Also, this LG seems to have long cycles for washing - but I'll research it more. Do you guys/anyone(?)....temper your buying decisions by considering washing cycles? I personally don't mind, but I'm just asking - why 1:40 minutes to go through a wash cycle. Also, no model numbers were mentioned. Also -it's a direct drive you're referring to, right? Thank you Gan/Martin.... CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK This post was last edited 03/31/2019 at 12:43 |
Post# 1028565 , Reply# 5   3/31/2019 at 18:26 (1,823 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I get you.....my Calypso was acting up, coming on by itself, but turned out it was the touch pad that needed replaced....problem solved....
hold on to yours, as you may come across a touch pad in time.... as with any electronic/digital machine, I am a firm believer in unplugging when not in use...even my Neptunes… I don't see a need to add water to the machine before starting....as for the cycle times, 50 minutes, give or take is what I experienced going back a few years...I had a Whirlpool Cabrio, both the "X"(belt drive) and the "XL" (direct drive)…..2010 year models on the X, you had to add water to 'trick' the machine into thinking it was a larger/heavier load....another down side to the 'X', no sprinkler to help saturate the load.... on the XL, it had a floating tub setup....when enough water was added to cause the tub to float, there was plenty of water to saturate the load....a sprinkler would come on to saturate the load even more, though not really needed on this machine... the trick to the XL was setting the cycle according to the load size.....Normal=small/mini, Casual=medium, Sheets=large..... the newer ones have some improvements, and have actually gotten better....I got really good results from the XL version.... I pulled out the restrictor on the HOT side....for a better mix of temps, and a faster fill.... the most the temps would dub down was 10 degrees...… but note....not everyones definition of HOT is the same....my water heater is set at 160.....a 10 degree drop is not much, as the water is still steaming.... many people have their set at 120.....which is only a warm bath temp to start with....your not going to get a HOT wash if your not starting with what I consider true hot water.... I have thought of machines with an internal heater.....I had a Neptune 6500, with internal heater, which never came on.....only because it would only raise the temp to 140 and hold it there....pros and cons with certain applications…. a good soaking of those socks would have probably given better results, even without bleach... |
Post# 1028584 , Reply# 7   3/31/2019 at 21:37 (1,823 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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The range of values is for service testing that the thermistor reads accurate across a range of temperatures. The control board reads the resistance of the thermistor to control the mix of hot and cold water to attain an average of whatever value is programmed into it for a given selected temperature. Some (most?) of ATC machines don't vary the mix of hot and cold by volume to attain the target. They turn the hot and/or cold full-on or full-off. Cold is typically tap-cold with some bits of warm (hot+cold). Warm is typically warm and cold, with an occasional switch to either full-hot or full-cold. Hot may be tap-hot with some occasional warm (hot+cold) ... or maybe hot with some switching to cold .... or depending on how restricted maybe warm (hot+cold) with some occasional tap-hot. The whole thing depends on how the engineers decided to program the mix to attain the targets. Some machines aren't programmed very well and may switch briefly to straight-hot to warm up a cold fill selection. That can be a problem if full-hot water is spraying on temperate-sensitive items. Some Fisher & Paykel models actually vary the volume of hot and cold in the mix by controlling the flow-rate of the valves to directly attain the target temperature, instead of just turning them full-on or full-off. Maybe some other brands/models do that of which I'm unaware. |
Post# 1028625 , Reply# 8   4/1/2019 at 00:12 (1,823 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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my 1964 Whirlpool belt drive had a restrictor on the cold water side...
1985 GE Filter flow had a restrictor(pictured) 2007 Speed Queen had a built in restrictor on the hot side, nothing a drill bit couldn't fix in seconds...turning a 70/30 into a 50/50 2010 Cabrio's had restrictors on both sides....just removed the hot side only Avanti portable had a restrictor... even Speed Solid tubs had restrictors...… my Neptunes may have restrictors, I never checked because these were from a time frame when ATC boosted temps, not dubbed down... pretty safe to say, most likely Maytag has a restrictor of some sort in them as well...others may too! there is no way to know for sure, unless you remove the hoses, and pull the screens, and/or check the entire water path...
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Post# 1029209 , Reply# 9   4/7/2019 at 12:40 (1,816 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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I'm sure if I had unplugged the washer after use, it would still be working. We've had some intermittent power outages - on/off - some longer. I was unplugging that washer previously and forgot (duh)to do it here at this new place.
I went to Home Depot and found 2 TL Maytag washers that looked like they'd fit in our space(need 28"x28' MAX). MVWX655DW -4.3ft3/ BRAVOS HE TL - $569/free delivery (www.homedepot.com/p/Mayta...) MVWC565/FW - 4.2ft3/ with Deep water wash and Power wash(whatever that is)www.homedepot.com/p/Mayta... Pinkpower4 - Lowe's and HomeDepot do not have that Maytag mvwp575gw and worse,it's only 3.5ft3...too small. Otherwise, I understand why you recommended it. Perhaps the mvwc565/FW is the next closest, as it has the agitator. Martin - I looked for the WT1501CW LG HE TL, but it's discontinued. I'm looking for the replacement now if LG did have a replacement? Anyone familiar with the Maytags that I found at H.Depot? I'd like to check out something like the machine you suggested Martin,but typically that model is replaced with a newer model with refinements. Don't laugh, I don't work in advertising, but I'm being optimistic. LOL. |
Post# 1029807 , Reply# 11   4/13/2019 at 22:09 (1,810 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Yes,you did help PinkPower4...!!
This thread became a discussion of hot and cold temperatures, restrictors, and how Maytag and other washers use or may use restrictors. I wouldn't have looked as closely at the Maytags if hadn't 1) prior experience with a 1983/4 set, and 2) your input to consider looking at Maytag mvwp575gw. Your suggested model would be ok, but I found a larger Maytag model on sale, took the $30(approx)/year extra warranty(on top of the 10 year manufacturer that is limited) for a few years, and delivery and setup is free. It's arriving this Wednesday. We have a king bed and bedding(comforter, etc). Looking at the 4.3 ft3 units, I decided to go to a Maytag Model # MVWB765FW www.homedepot.com/p/Mayta... Your thoughtful, helpful replies.....so appreciated...thank you thank you. |
Post# 1029837 , Reply# 13   4/14/2019 at 10:06 (1,810 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 1029845 , Reply# 15   4/14/2019 at 11:43 (1,810 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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your right on track with the portables....
I have an Avanti 1.6, which is equal in capacity to a GE V12 FilterFlo….this one allows me the selection between HE or regular Full fills.... also a MagicChef 1.7 and a Whirlpool belt drive portable... I am all game for people who have only one daily driver machine to have one of these as an extra, or a backup.... I would like to try out the 2.5 or 3.0 size ones as well..... I have not seen any vids of them with restricting water levels...and there aren't many good vids showing how these machines function.... you can buy new ones...but I found all of mine on CL for way under 100.00.... the dryers are getting bigger in matching capacity as well...… if your not going to use a dryer, I suggest the machines with the "AirDry' function...up to 90 minute spin @ 800rpm.... this vid is one of an Avanti versions, courtesy of our own Ultramatic…. |
Post# 1030627 , Reply# 16   4/23/2019 at 10:04 (1,801 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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The Maytag Model # MVWB765FW was delivered, installed,and working. I bought a surge protector that plugs into the wall socket. New steel wash hoses were installed(they won't honor the warranty unless new ones were purchased). Since we've only owned it about a week as of this Wednesday, I haven't tried running it through all its paces. It's a quiet machine, to me, other than the sing-song action of the agitation. It cleans well- happy so far. But until I try all the different wash selections, but it cleans well, for the clothes, towels, and sheets washed so far.
It has a smoked-glass top, so it's not clear enough for videos. I don't think there's an easy dis-engagement of the lid, as it electronically sets a lock after pushing START. But I'll give more of my impressions later. I haven't ever used a portable washer, but the Avanti looks fun to use. I saw an RCA in Craigslist,but it's far out of state. I agree, a backup washer like these are a good idea. There's a GE that reminds me of the Avanti - wonder where they make that one? Thanks again-that's it from your Maytag MVWB765FW washer reporter for now. |