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Thread Number: 79128
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Washer Tariffs: Creating an $800,000+ American Job, and Higher Dryer Prices |
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| Post# 1030543 4/22/2019 at 14:30 (2,054 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts) | ||
So-called benefits of the tariff on imported washing machines:
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Post# 1030554 , Reply# 1 4/22/2019 at 16:13 (2,054 days old) by RevvinKevin  (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 1030572 , Reply# 2 4/22/2019 at 18:53 (2,054 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland ) |
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This is exactly what happens when the government gets involved with anything. The Koreans are making a superior product, and left alone they would put the American companies out of business or at least force them to make a better product. | ||
| Post# 1030579 , Reply# 3 4/22/2019 at 19:41 (2,054 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA) | ||
Thia Makes me mad!!!!!
I hope I don't offend too many people, but Monsignor Rump (not misspelled) as usual, @%&$! the American People. I think he thinks Washers and Dryers, are like a certain wall. We the consumers take it in the usual location, While big corporations get off scott free! Didn't mean to get political, and again I hope I didn't offend people, but this article hit me wrong. He needs to go!!!!!
Signed a Angry Citizen, and Consumer, David | ||
| Post# 1031328 , Reply# 5 4/30/2019 at 08:24 (2,046 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
I agree with Moon1234 on this. I think the tariffs are stupid honestly but it does raise the question of how did we end up in this situation? In typical corporate America fashion, companies care more about their shareholders than they do about the people buying their products.
I've loved WP over the years and I grew up with their washers and dyers (or Kenmore equivalents) and they have produced some really good products. But then you change things, to, of course, make more money. Features change...build quality changes and you now have a bunch of new, albeit, crappy products. You can blame the gov't energy regulations all you want for making this happen, but bottom line is, it's up to the manufacturer to come out with a product that will work with that. Car companies have adapted with higher mileage requirements and have done a great job I have to say. WP in particular has really failed IMO in adapting to these new regulations. When I bought my condo in 2014 their selection of washers were not only confusing, but absolutely garbage in terms of features. GE managed to make their washers to adapt with very little difference in how they worked. So unfortunately I have to blame WP for their own issues. Their more recent selections are definitely better but they lost a lot of customers in the interim. | ||
| Post# 1031353 , Reply# 7 4/30/2019 at 12:51 (2,046 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
As bad as the tariffs are, I think the crux of the issue is that other companies from other countries will always have an advantage over American businesses.
1. Foreign companies always have the backing of their home country. Be it financial support, or logistics support etc. They have a helping hand. So the foreign companies can almost always get a leg up on our companies because they don’t need to make a profit until they gain hold in the US market. Same for when they build their plants here. They can take a large loss on those parts and the labor just to hold s place on our market. Then once they put our companies out of business, they own our market. It’s militant capitalism at our expense. And we’re terrible at fighting it. 2. American companies since the MBA wave really are no longer in business to make make products and win over customers. At least not entirely. Modern managements have turned to making the most money for themselves and shareholders. Played to the quarterly report. American companies do not plan long term anymore. Like at all. None I’ve worked at anyway. Only foreign companies plan in a long term, methodical fashion. That and then ideological revulsion America has to supporting its businesses for the “right” reasons, makes us inherently non-competitive. 3. Because foreign companies usually take their honor as bannermen of their nation seriously, they usually strive to be best in class and make good products for their customers. American companies will really only do that if they’re regulated to do so. Quality American products are subservient to profits first. IF they ca do both, great. But quality, loyalty to employee stakeholders, and customer satisfaction is ONLY a priority to American companies if they can profit from it. If not, then the cutting and stripping begins. | ||
| Post# 1031444 , Reply# 8 5/1/2019 at 03:34 (2,046 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
 Good summary John.
Engineer at Dell when the MBA iceberg hit it. Company had gone from a hobby to best-in-class supplier and wallstreet darling on the basis of solid product and customer experience focus. Dell himself was only the financier, with daddy's money and Intel's 'pay us when you sell it' terms. A real-world guy, Mort Topfer was running it but took his bazillions to the Caribbean. Dell didn't know what to do besides hire a consultant--Bain.
Immediately, the product and customer were relegated to a leaky lifeboat and the entire focus became BPI, 'business process improvement'. Bain had told him 'fuggit, just buy ads to replace pissedoff customers' and offshore support to unintelligibles the customer would prefer a root canal over calling.
What I saw of the MBAs, an attitude of 'we already know anything worth knowing'. Even when calculated value was presented in their own Excel/Powerpoint language, their eyes rolled back in their heads wondering, "Did I leave the iron on?" Absolute zero real-world grasp, or interest therein. And these were 'good ones', hired at the top of Dell's prosperity from Harvard/Yale.
These days, MBAs and lawyers is 95% of what's left of Dell. While all the sales, support and engineering people who made him rich are working 38 hours at the counter in Taco Bell. | ||
| Post# 1031536 , Reply# 10 5/2/2019 at 06:11 (2,044 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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El Xeroxo Forced to relinquish my home, which pritmuch sucked the spirit out of me. Some mitigation, walked away with 2x the DP after only 8yrs; expanding market and overpaid principal. Small consolation, landing with a thud, in an apartment. Even as a drummer in Hawaii, I rented houses.
Think that's bad, yotta see where I am now that the equity is spent. But nevermind, cuz many have it much worse. I'm essentially in the morgue queue so it matters even less. What about the intervening generations? I've apologized to several I got to know well and were quite aware, for the dust and splinters they inherited. Small consolation.
Kinda like what's left of Rome, France, Spain, Portugal, England, all those empire types. But skuze me, we were talking about dryers.
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