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Post# 1033232   5/20/2019 at 15:41 (383 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

Hi everybody, so we are getting close to running out of disk space on our current server.  Between the three websites we have nearly 400,000 pictures uploaded since 2004 and nearly one and a half million posts, disk space is getting very low.  I estimate we have about three months left before it completely runs out.  We currently have 250 gigabytes of disk space on the current server and I have recently rented a new more expensive server that has 1 terabyte of disk space.  This should keep us with enough disk space for hopefully 7 to 10 years if we stay about the same rate of postings.


I have already moved Automatic Ephemera over to the new server and I'm now working on getting everything copied over to move next.  Once that's up and running and any bugs addressed I'll move Vacuumland over as well and cancel the old server.


SO HERE IS THE BIG DEAL: When I flip the switch and change the IP address of to the new server it can take anywhere between a few minutes to 24-48 hours for the entire internet to catch up.  What this means is once the switch is flipped some users will hit the old site for a while and some users will be on the new site.  Because of this right before I flip the switch I will turn off all new forum postings and profile updates on the old site, so once you can see that you have the ability to post again you've reached the new site.  This wait time is called DNS PROPAGATION, if you find you aren't reaching the new active site within 24 please clear your browsers cache and try again.  Most users should be able to reach the new site within several hours, especially within the United States.  It took Automatic Ephemera 18 hours before the very last click on the old server site ended last week.


So I'm working away on this and should be ready to "flip the switch" and force over to the new server in one to five days from now, depending on how things go this week.  I'll make another post when I'm ready.  There probably will be a few bugs after the switch and I'll make a bug report thread on the new server for you guys to let me know if something isn't working properly that needs to be addressed.


Thanks everyone and I appreciate everyone's patience during the transition.  Questions/Comments?

Post# 1033233 , Reply# 1   5/20/2019 at 15:56 (383 days old) by turbokinetic (Northport, Alabama USA)        

Thanks for letting us know; and for keeping the site available and free of disk space issues!

Post# 1033235 , Reply# 2   5/20/2019 at 16:18 (383 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Keep up the good work!

Post# 1033237 , Reply# 3   5/20/2019 at 16:39 (383 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Server moves rarely go without hiccups ... been there, done that, more than once ... but this one probably won't be much of a deal on the software side being only three sites and an expert custom-programmer at the helm.  :-)

Post# 1033240 , Reply# 4   5/20/2019 at 17:51 (383 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Thanks Robert

For all the hard work.

Post# 1033241 , Reply# 5   5/20/2019 at 17:57 (383 days old) by Kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)        
Thank you Robert

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For keeping us updated and all the work you do for us.

Post# 1033244 , Reply# 6   5/20/2019 at 19:21 (383 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -New Dates - Wash -In 2020 Aug 21-23!)        

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Thanks for all the work you do to keep us all connected!

Post# 1033246 , Reply# 7   5/20/2019 at 19:39 (383 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Thanks For All You Have Done And Do Robert

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Major Appliances every where thank you, this is by far my favorite website.



Post# 1033248 , Reply# 8   5/20/2019 at 20:13 (383 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        

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Thank You,  I appreciate this site very much and the hard work you put into making it such high quality.  I have an IT friend so I have some sense of the effort involved on your part.

Post# 1033249 , Reply# 9   5/20/2019 at 20:19 (383 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Robert .....

We basically did this when we switched servers for the hospital website my group created and maintained. Applied db copy on new server and forwarded traffic from old server to new before propagation was complete. Pretty seamless.

Post# 1033250 , Reply# 10   5/20/2019 at 20:19 (383 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Make It So!

Post# 1033251 , Reply# 11   5/20/2019 at 20:22 (383 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
Thanks Very Much!

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Robert for all your hard work! AW is one of my favorite things, the vintage appliances and the friendly interactions with members. And its your dedication that makes it happen!



Post# 1033255 , Reply# 12   5/20/2019 at 21:02 (383 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        

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Robert - Thank you for all your hard work and keeping up this great site!
This site and your efforts are greatly appreciated.

Post# 1033257 , Reply# 13   5/20/2019 at 21:10 (383 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama)        
Thank you Robert

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Robert, thank you for creating and maintaining AW and Vacuumland. I love the trove of information and experience but most of all the community you have fostered here.

AW is not only my favorite forum, but I think it's the best programmed of any forum I have participated in. Just brilliant!

Post# 1033259 , Reply# 14   5/20/2019 at 21:28 (383 days old) by sambootoo (Moody, AL)        

Most of what you said makes no since at all to me but I echo the comments of the others. I don't post too often but I check in here almost every day.

Thank you, Robert for this site and for all that you do.


Post# 1033260 , Reply# 15   5/20/2019 at 21:33 (383 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor)        

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Robert,I just keep liking all the posts above and thank you also for your hard work. Just renewed my membership yesterday for the next year and look forward to all other members postings. Who knows who will find the next treasure to share.

Post# 1033262 , Reply# 16   5/20/2019 at 21:43 (383 days old) by rapidry1000 (San Francisco)        
Thank you

This is my favorite site. Thank you for updating us of your generous effort and work involved.

Post# 1033265 , Reply# 17   5/20/2019 at 22:07 (383 days old) by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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>> I have recently rented a new more expensive server that has 1 terabyte of disk space

Does this mean there might be the possibility of uploading video clips in the future? :D
Even if the length or quality is restricted, having video content would add a lot of value to the forums!

Thanks for your dedication to keeping this site running!

Post# 1033267 , Reply# 18   5/20/2019 at 22:45 (383 days old) by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

Thanks Robert for all that you do behind the scenes to keep this site going. I always like to see the washers and dryers that folks find and it keeps my interest up as well. I too spend a lot of time on this site reading mainly but every once in a while I finish one of the hundreds of projects that I have(literally) and post pictures.

Post# 1033282 , Reply# 19   5/21/2019 at 02:48 (383 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

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Thank you Robert. This is my favorite site, as a caregiver it helps me to cope!!!! Appreciate all that you do!!


Post# 1033283 , Reply# 20   5/21/2019 at 03:48 (382 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thanks for all the hard work Robert and good luck with the move to the new server!

Post# 1033291 , Reply# 21   5/21/2019 at 06:49 (382 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

Thanks everyone for your very kind words and support.

As for videos that would be super cool, but unfortunately a 1tb disk would get filled up rather fast if I tried to support video uploads. YouTube is much better suited for that and integrates with the site nicely.

Post# 1033293 , Reply# 22   5/21/2019 at 07:09 (382 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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A day without AW is like air without oxygen.  Thanks Robert, will anticipate.

Post# 1033298 , Reply# 23   5/21/2019 at 07:58 (382 days old) by gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Au)        

Hi Robert.

Thanks for creating my favourite website in the whole internet.

Post# 1033310 , Reply# 24   5/21/2019 at 09:49 (382 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Thank you, Robert!

So, what size donation is needed/acceptable to pay for all this new fancy shmancy upgrade? I know it has to cost more. Will you be requesting money when we renew or do you need it now?

Post# 1033332 , Reply# 25   5/21/2019 at 15:20 (382 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

So, what size donation is needed/acceptable to pay for all this new fancy shmancy upgrade?

Hi Tom, thank you for asking about that. Right now all is fine. I'm going to take a wait and see attitude on that as I have been extra careful to budget ahead of time for this more expensive monthly rental fee over the past few months. I've tried very hard to keep the base donation fee at $12 over the past 9 years and I haven't raised it as of yet. Quite a few users have been very kind over the years and have added extra cash to the $12 base rate when it's time for them to renew and I very much appreciate those who can do that. I do realize that for some even $12 is difficult and I don't want to alienate those members so that's why I'm doing a wait and see on this.

Thank you again for asking, it's very kind of you! If I see this is going to be an issue I will have discussion with everyone.

Post# 1033348 , Reply# 26   5/21/2019 at 20:34 (382 days old) by maytag63 (South Berwick, Maine)        
Thank you Robert

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Thank you for all the work and time you give us! For me this site is like a family to go to when I'm down and dealing with life's challenges.

Post# 1033376 , Reply# 27   5/22/2019 at 10:57 (381 days old) by gus (Montevideo, Uruguay)        

Hi Rob, I don´t know if this is the right moment, but can you tell what and where is the third place you talk about beyond this and vacuumland? Thank you whatever your answer.

Post# 1033382 , Reply# 28   5/22/2019 at 11:29 (381 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Yes, thank's Robert!

I don't post too often anymore, as the newness novelty of it has weened somewhat.
I'm willing to contribute by upgrading to a premium member, but I don't work anymore, besides keeping up the house, and domestic chores. I haven't yet began drawing my retirement, as I'll get more the longer I wait because of my age. I also don't mind all of our the budget, so did not get the go ahead. Sorry.
I've been busy over the past year getting healthier and back in shape since losing my parents. My siblings and I all put on weight taking care of them. Dad preferred to eat out, more than at home, as there was not a lot of time to prepare healthy meals taking him to hemo dialysis and doctors.
My gym membership costs more now, because we've joined a new one with better equipment and hours, even with a couples discount.
I've dropped from 245 LBS. a year ago to 178, which is what I weighed at age 25.
My wedding ring fits me again since 3 years ago.
Building muscle bulk is more difficult over age 40, not to mention 55, but I feel like I'm 40 again.
Several friends and relatives have been inspired by my progress, and are also now trying to become fit.

Post# 1033392 , Reply# 29   5/22/2019 at 13:32 (381 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

Hi Rob, I donīt know if this is the right moment, but can you tell what and where is the third place you talk about beyond this and vacuumland?

Hi Gus, I'm not sure what you mean. First was Automatic Ephemera, second will be (maybe early this evening depending on when I get home from work) and third will be Vacuumland once everything is settled with

Post# 1033473 , Reply# 30   5/23/2019 at 15:29 (380 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        

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Just out of curiosity, how much physical space does a 1 TB server occupy? Or is that something that you've never seen?

Back when I started in the printing/typesetting field, a 50 megabyte (yes 50 MB) disk drive was in a large cabinet. I always like to describe it as "the size of a washing machine." I'm talking 1980 or so.

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Post# 1033476 , Reply# 31   5/23/2019 at 15:56 (380 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

how much physical space does a 1 TB

I'm not sure about the actual size of the server, but the disk drive is approximately 4 inches wide, 5.8 inches long and 0.8 inches thick! A long ways from 1980 or the Univac for that matter, the first commercial computer. Our smart phones are thousands of times more powerful!

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Post# 1033483 , Reply# 32   5/23/2019 at 17:22 (380 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Standard 3.5" spinning hard drives are available today in a 15 (Fifteen!!) Terabyte size.

A little maths for fun...

This is equal to 10.7 MILLION floppy discs!

Of a mere 21,400 CD-R's (which is stacked on top of one another would be 107 feet tall!)

There are not SSD's (Solid State Drive) that are in the 100Tb ballpark.

As Robert said, it is amazing how far we have advanced!

Post# 1033486 , Reply# 33   5/23/2019 at 17:44 (380 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Pic 1 & 2 -- a 1 TB hard drive on an 8.5" x 11" sheet of paper.  It's known as a 3.5" form-factor, meaning it fits in the same space inside the computer as a 3.5" diskette drive.  The diameter of the discs inside can be 2.5", 3.0" or 3.74".

The digital projectors at the theater each have 4 of these drives, with 2 of each paired in a RAID array for ~2 TB total storage on each projector (the 2nd pair mirrors the data for redundancy protection).

There are also 2.5" form-factor hard drives which are physically smaller (takes less space in laptop and notebook computers).

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Post# 1033487 , Reply# 34   5/23/2019 at 17:48 (380 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

I've got a 4 Terra byte hard drive plugged into my router for file sharing, cost me $80 last fall, now you can get 10T for about the same price.   I can recall spending hundreds for a drive fractions of that size.  I few more years we'll be buying penta byte hard drives...

Post# 1033499 , Reply# 35   5/23/2019 at 19:36 (380 days old) by SudsMaster (East of SF, West of Eden, California)        

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My career from about 1985 to 2004 revolved around building, maintaining, and administering local area network servers. I remember the first IBMPC-XT machines had a 10 MB disk drive. Wow. A bit upgrade was to a 20 MB PC-AT. Double Wow. LOL. Plus the first XT hard drives were not as reliable as one would like. Towards the end I wound up working for a couple of disk drive companies.

Today I'm amazed at how the disk drive has improved and increased ion capacity. I bought my current system, a Dell desktop, with a 2 Terabyte drive, for less than $1000 at Costco a couple-three years ago. Just checked... it's about 14% filled. 86% free.

Oh yeah, keep up the good work, Robert. You are much appreciated!

Post# 1033793 , Reply# 36   5/28/2019 at 10:12 (375 days old) by gus (Montevideo, Uruguay)        

Hi Rob, you´ve understood perfectly well. I didn´t think of Ephemera as a third place on the web for this matter.  Thank you, very kind of you. Hughs Gus

Post# 1033796 , Reply# 37   5/28/2019 at 10:58 (375 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
That brings back memories...

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I've also been in this business for a long time.  When I started out we were using Novell and everything was still green screen.  My first computer was an IBM XT that I UPGRADED to 256KB of RAM.  Two 5.25" drives.  That was a big deal then.  A friend gifted my a 10MB hard drive and I thought I'd be set for a very long time.  Just not having to switch disks to boot up the computer and load DisplayWrite was a big deal.


Not to change the subject but any Halt and Catch Fire fans out there?  That sure is a stroll down memory lane for some of us.

Post# 1033886 , Reply# 38   5/29/2019 at 18:17 (374 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)        

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Uni, thank you for all that you do! You have kept this site running flawless for so many years :)

Post# 1034069 , Reply# 39   5/31/2019 at 14:45 (372 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        

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Like the name of your town (and valley); I'm in Springfield. Can't recall if I ever passed through Blackstone.

Post# 1034072 , Reply# 40   5/31/2019 at 15:16 (372 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        

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I am assuming that as I can post this that the switch over has occurred and without a hitch it would seem?

I too wish to add my thanks for all you do and I look forward to many more years of this lovely site to amuse and teach me ...


Post# 1034208 , Reply# 41   6/2/2019 at 14:03 (370 days old) by SudsMaster (East of SF, West of Eden, California)        

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Yeah, I got my start with computers about 1983. Wound up running the company Netware server and eventually that turned into a15 year IT career. I also remember the "Netwars" between Netware fans and Microsoft's challenger, NT. Those were the days... not even sure if Netware is around any more...

Post# 1034209 , Reply# 42   6/2/2019 at 14:19 (370 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)        
Netware, Novell...?

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ha!, I was an IBM programmer in the days of punched cards, JCL, COBOL, VSAM and DASDs, and before that in grad school used DEC PDP-8s and 11s, FORTRAN and punched paper tape drives... so now you know I'm reeaaaly old!

I'm always impressed how well this place works even when migrating to new systems.

Post# 1034235 , Reply# 43   6/2/2019 at 21:12 (370 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)        

The main difference I notice is that the "my posts" button is much faster.  Thank you, Robert, for keeping this fine forum running like a swiss watch.

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