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Thread Number: 79557
/ Tag: Modern Dishwashers
Newer Kitchenaid dishwasher see-through in action, opinions requested |
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| Post# 1034634 , Reply# 1 6/6/2019 at 13:27 (2,006 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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Post# 1034653 , Reply# 3 6/6/2019 at 16:06 (2,006 days old) by RevvinKevin  (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 1034679 , Reply# 4 6/7/2019 at 02:14 (2,006 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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I'm coming up on 2 years with my KA and I have to say I love it! In that time I've taken out 2 maybe 3 dishes that did not come clean - and I do not every rinse. | ||
| Post# 1034682 , Reply# 5 6/7/2019 at 05:04 (2,006 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC) | ||
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I've had my F&P . . . . . . Drawers for 12 or 13 years and have been very pleased with them. No problems whatsoever. And one thing I like is that if there is a problem with the motor, it is very easily replaceable. Mine are quiet and to an excellent job of cleaning. Good luck with your search. Jerry Gay | ||
| Post# 1034690 , Reply# 7 6/7/2019 at 07:07 (2,006 days old) by Whitetub (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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| Post# 1034702 , Reply# 8 6/7/2019 at 10:02 (2,006 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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Interesting ratings!
It seems you have a good chance of having a fairly reliable and good performing machine if you choose a Bosch or Whirlpool product. Further interesting how spotty some of the WP products seem to be. LOL no surprise Elux/Frigidaire are near the bottom. I get it. A few people out there have issues with their KAs. But they do have 5yr parts warranties on their racks and control boards. That’s why I bought mine. My “old” GE was 2.5yrs old when the racks started rusting and the motor started leaking! 1yr warranty only on GE. | ||
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Post# 1034706 , Reply# 9 6/7/2019 at 11:05 (2,006 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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My apologies but I had to delete that. | ||
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Post# 1034719 , Reply# 10 6/7/2019 at 15:09 (2,005 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) |
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It's a very brief clip because I haven't gotten around to editing together a more detailed shot, but here's a close up of the X-arm in the KDFE104H model. I can't remember why I had the filter removed...I think I was trying to see where exactly those downward jets were aimed and actually hitting, but there's still too much water **gasp in an eco-nazi-pond-pump dishwasher? gasp** in the way to really see where it's hitting regardless of the filter in or out. But it keeps it clean either way, so...
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Post# 1034751 , Reply# 11 6/8/2019 at 00:52 (2,005 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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Post# 1034754 , Reply# 12 6/8/2019 at 02:39 (2,005 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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The dishwasher shown is pathetic-would rather wash my dishes by hand than use that dishwasher!How long does the cycle run? | ||
| Post# 1034758 , Reply# 14 6/8/2019 at 06:02 (2,005 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
Control boards
When I bought my dishwasher (Maytag) in 2014, I was skeptical as I had done research and noticed a lot of control board issues on ALL brands! I wondered to myself if people who have issues with the control board always use the dry cycle? For me, I open the door as soon as it's done to let everything flash dry, so I never use it. I could be wrong, but the dry cycle seems like it would create more heat and steam that could get into the board? It's just a guess. I don't know. I also heard that using the self-clean feature on your oven can harm control boards too.....I read that here somewhere I believe.
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Post# 1034759 , Reply# 15 6/8/2019 at 06:02 (2,005 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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At this point waiting 2hrs for a load to cycle in the dishwaser-will continue to wash by hand and not waste my money or time on slowpoke sprinkler dishwashers. | ||
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Post# 1034769 , Reply# 16 6/8/2019 at 09:17 (2,005 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan & Palm Springs, CA) |
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Agree with Matt--new machine with new detergent works as well or better than anything I've ever used. I've had experience with 4 entirely satisfying d/w over time....a GE 1200 with the passive filter; a White-Westinghouse (!!) in an apartment which was far far better than any apartment d/w had a right to be and had the most intelligent racking system I've used, a Whirlpool Powerclean and the current Bosch. Jam the Bosch full--a tab of good detergent/2 tabs of house-brand and 2h 20 later everything clean, dry, hot, sanitized and done.
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Post# 1034777 , Reply# 17 6/8/2019 at 10:06 (2,005 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula) |
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| Post# 1034782 , Reply# 18 6/8/2019 at 10:35 (2,005 days old) by Whitetub (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Bosch dishwashers seems to have much stronger sprays. Especially the upper rack. Maybe that’s why my pots seemed to come out cleaner in the top rack. They get washed by the bottom and top spray arms alternately at all times. See link below CLICK HERE TO GO TO Whitetub's LINK | ||
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Post# 1034784 , Reply# 19 6/8/2019 at 10:36 (2,005 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 I'm not understanding the uproar over dishwasher operating time. Start the machine running before bed, do other chores while it runs, read a book, watch a movie, play on AW.org, go visit a friend, etc. ... and be glad you're not having to manually wash the dishware, isn't that the point of having the machine? Gentler spray reduces noise levels, which is all the rage nowadays. The primary factor many dishwasher shoppers require per the discussions I see is QUIET. Reduced spray pressure calls for more intense chemical cleaning via enzymes to compensate for the reduced mechanical/spray action ... which in turn leads to more time. | ||
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Post# 1034805 , Reply# 20 6/8/2019 at 13:31 (2,004 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) |
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I agree with DADoES. I've never understood all the b*tching and moaning over how long a dishwasher or washer/dryer takes. Who is actually spending valuable emotional energy over how long a machine has to do a completely unaided, automated task from start to finish, when you only have to press a button or two and walk away, only to come back and the job be completely done? I don't understand this idea of waiting on the edge of your seat, or pacing back and forth in front of the dishwasher, waiting for that clean or done light so you can hurriedly take everything out. For what? There are 1001 things you can do while the machine is running, and aside from maybe propping the door open to let it air dry like I do, the dishes can sit there clean in the machine just as well as they sit clean in a cupboard.
My mother in law has this same hang up. She has a gorgeous Whirlpool 8500 washing machine that holds three times what her old washer did, meaning she's washing in one load what would have been at least two or three in the old machine, yet she'll beat that poor soil level button to death to shave off literally 4-5 minutes of time because apparently 54 minutes is just too long and she acts like she has to stop her life until both machines are completely done and all the laundry put away. I've explained until I'm blue in the face that she's washing more laundry in one load, and because her old machine took 40-45 minutes per wash from start to finish, it's really not that much more time. Even if you added up that time for three separate cycles, at a minimum that's 2 hours, so anything less for one machine doing that much laundry is still more than reasonable, especially when you consider that modern detergents are designed for and simply work much better with more time for the enzymes to do their job. To me this whole argument is like someone mixing up a cake recipe, putting it in the oven, and then getting irritated because they took it out after 15 minutes and it was still soupy, when the recipe instructed that it would take 35 minutes. Like, things take time to get done, Mary Lou, stop getting your bloomers in a wad. | ||
| Post# 1035169 , Reply# 22 6/12/2019 at 14:39 (2,000 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
"Hurricane in a box" certainly does not pertain to these new machines but that shouldn't be reason to criticize them. I used my Hobart KA for 2.5 years and loved every minute of it. In fact I still have it but need to change the program switch. Do I miss it? Hell yeah, I loved listening to the hum of the motor. They were/are truly an iconic appliance. But the Kenmore Elite I purchased has proven to be a washer champion so far. It's a clone of the new KA machines...just has a different wash arm. Mine has the dynamic wash arm like the higher end KA's have. It's incredibly quiet and cleans the dickens out of anything I put in there. Cycle times don't bother me either because I run it at night and empty it in the morning. Having an open kitchen/living room, the lower noise levels are now much appreciated. I seriously can barely hear it. I have to turn the TV off to listen to the dishwasher now! hahaha.
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Post# 1035174 , Reply# 23 6/12/2019 at 16:30 (2,000 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho) |
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Yes the sprays of newer machines do look more like a lawn sprinkler than the high-force ones of old. This must be why they have to run so long. On the plus side, IMHO, this makes them so much more quiet and keeps the glass etching to a minimum, which was a problem with the old firehose strength pressure design.
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Post# 1036035 , Reply# 26 6/22/2019 at 07:14 (1,991 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan & Palm Springs, CA) |
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