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Post# 1040819   8/5/2019 at 21:40 (1,725 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

After an ages long search for the perfect refrigerator, I finally found one. A mid-late 60's GE Frost Guard. I have a couple of questions though. There had to have been gallons of water built up in the cabinet that leaked out when moving it. What in the world makes that happen?
Second There is a burn in the plastic in the back of the freezer, and the fan looks melty. The fan no longer runs also. What should I do about this?





Post# 1040826 , Reply# 1   8/6/2019 at 01:29 (1,725 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Pictures my friend, we need to see pictures. Plus what is the model number? As for the water, it might be from ice build-up on the evaporator coils, although it would not produce "gallons". The evaporator fan is toast as well, perhaps from the ice build up on the evaporator coils forced it to stall, thus overheat then burnout. You'll need a new fan, but first you have to address the reason for the ice build up. Regardless, you've come to the right place.


Post# 1040838 , Reply# 2   8/6/2019 at 05:11 (1,725 days old) by Oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

The fan is dead. It looks to me like the defrost got stuck on at one time. The source of water is the drain at the bottom of the freezer. Its covered in insulation, and it feels like a wet sponge. Ive had freezers this small without a fan, and the refrigerator has coils of its own, so what is the fan for? How well will it work if i cant find a replacement?

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Post# 1040848 , Reply# 3   8/6/2019 at 07:08 (1,725 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Wet Insulation

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You have to pull the whole ref apart which involves taking both doors off laying the whole thing on its back pulling everything out including both dinners and replace all wet and damaged insulation.

 

I have done it in the past, it is a big messy job, in addition you have to seal everything perfectly and fix any drain problems etc, you will have to have a lot of skills and determination to pull this off on a ref this old. The ref will never work correctly with wet insulation under the freezer compartment, even if you could dry it out it is all compressed from being wet for so long it would not be effective.

 

Some of the other refs being talked about like Louis in NY were more advanced models that already have foam insulation and do not develop this problem.

 

John L.


Post# 1040851 , Reply# 4   8/6/2019 at 07:54 (1,725 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

Thank you, I already fixed the drain issue. There was a plug right below this that was never removed. I believe that there probably was a plug in the hole at the bottom of the freezer at one time. And yes, the insulation is soaked. I imagine the water probably has something to do with the burns too. Does anybody know where I can source a replacement fan?

Post# 1040853 , Reply# 5   8/6/2019 at 08:25 (1,725 days old) by sfh074 ( )        
Something like this .....

should be adaptable without too much trouble.

www.globalindustrial.com/...


Post# 1040866 , Reply# 6   8/6/2019 at 10:50 (1,725 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Handsome refrigerator!

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It looks like a 1963 or 1964 model. The freezer door swings out? I always thought that in these models they rolled out. It's a big project, but not impossible. Please keep us informed on your progress.


Post# 1040870 , Reply# 7   8/6/2019 at 11:31 (1,725 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

Yes, the freezer door swings out, the wire basket inside swings out too. I also have one of the original metal ice trays. It is a smaller 30 inch wide model. I will still be looking for another because it is smaller than I am looking for, but it will work fine until then. I think I will try to dry out the insulation best as I can and definitely replace the drain plug before replacing insulation. somebody pulled out the plug, but left the one right below that, so water was just collecting in there for who knows how many years.

Post# 1040872 , Reply# 8   8/6/2019 at 11:57 (1,725 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I have a very similar model. I think if you're going to go through all that trouble with the insulation, you might as well replace it with new insulation. It will also run much more efficiently as John implied. Amazing that the plug was never removed, soaked insulation would certain soak up a lot of water. Can you post some pictures of the interior and the manufacturers I.D. tag? The tag is usually behind one of the crisper drawers.


Post# 1040873 , Reply# 9   8/6/2019 at 12:04 (1,725 days old) by Oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

I was not joking when i said gallons. It was like dumping out a swimming pool.

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Post# 1040881 , Reply# 10   8/6/2019 at 13:14 (1,725 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
fan

I might have that exact fan in my salvaged freezer fans box-I could dig if you are interested in authentic replacement parts :)Otherwize a substitute should be easy to come up with.

Post# 1040888 , Reply# 11   8/6/2019 at 13:47 (1,725 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

Absolutely I am interested. I feel confident that a used old fan will last longer than a new one. What's your price?

Post# 1040909 , Reply# 12   8/6/2019 at 18:20 (1,724 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        

i'll look this weekend when temperatures are bearable in the spares shed :)Do you know if the fan motor is still good?

Post# 1040922 , Reply# 13   8/6/2019 at 23:43 (1,724 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

My fan motor is definitely not good. It has a large crack in the metal casing.

Post# 1040980 , Reply# 14   8/7/2019 at 20:07 (1,723 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        
cfz2882

Thank you, but I found someone with a replacement. It sounds like you wouldn't want to be searching in the heat anyhow. Your help was appreciated.

Post# 1040983 , Reply# 15   8/7/2019 at 21:14 (1,723 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
cool :)

I'll still check if I have that fan when I'm in the shed sat.morning-will be checking for a WP fan also.

Post# 1041055 , Reply# 16   8/8/2019 at 14:08 (1,723 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Hi Jon. I thought you might like to know, if I am reading your serial number correctly, your refrigerator was manufactured on July, 1964.


Post# 1041061 , Reply# 17   8/8/2019 at 14:48 (1,723 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        
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Thank you, I was wondering the age. Have you seen any others with the non-roll out freezer?

Post# 1041066 , Reply# 18   8/8/2019 at 15:16 (1,723 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Only Hotpoint, a 1960 model. I had no idea General Electric was making two different types of bottom mounted freezer doors.


Post# 1041111 , Reply# 19   8/8/2019 at 19:16 (1,722 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

It is rare to see a GE bottom-freezer model without the pullout drawer freezer. I think that the Canadian versions were all side-swing doors like this.

Post# 1041119 , Reply# 20   8/8/2019 at 20:13 (1,722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I too was wondering whether this was a Canadian model. If so, that would make it an even rarer.


Post# 1041126 , Reply# 21   8/8/2019 at 21:19 (1,722 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        

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This was the more basic bottom freezer model in the 30 1/2 " wide cabinet, I have seen quite a few of these over the years.

 

It looks like someone tried defrosting it with a portable electric defroster Etc, the regular hot gas defrost could never get hot enough to do this type of damage.

 

John L.


Post# 1041165 , Reply# 22   8/9/2019 at 06:44 (1,722 days old) by turbokinetic (Northport, Alabama USA)        
Meltyness..

I was thinking something like a heating gun; as used for paint stripping or shrinking of heat-shrink tube. That could have done it.

Post# 1041180 , Reply# 23   8/9/2019 at 09:10 (1,722 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

Good to know about the melted parts. I bought it secondhand from the original owner, they had died and I got it for $40. I was starting to think that it was an outside source too. The defrost timer no longer advances, although the defrost does work.
I will cut a piece of sheet aluminum to replace the melted plastic. I don't want anymore water going into the insulation than is already there.

The refrigerator is not a Canadian model.


Post# 1041290 , Reply# 24   8/10/2019 at 12:52 (1,721 days old) by oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana)        

Today I replaced the fan motor. It is getting much colder than before. It was about 20 in the bottom of the freezer and 35 in the top of the freezer before. It is still cooling and is about 10 degrees (F). I also took out the melted plastic and cut out a new part from sheet aluminum. It looks much cleaner and nicer. I also put a coat of wax on the outside and it looks almost like a new refrigerator.

Post# 1041292 , Reply# 25   8/10/2019 at 13:04 (1,721 days old) by turbokinetic (Northport, Alabama USA)        

Glad to hear about the improvement!


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