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Post# 1041682   8/14/2019 at 06:21 (198 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Hey!

I woke up at 7 am to this beeping noise. I kept walking around trying to figure out where it was coming from. It was coming from my laundry room and it was the dryer beeping control lock. No one has touched the dryer in 3 days. I unplug it/plug back in. Same! So I googled dryer beep control lock duet and someone mentioned to press hold end of cycle signal to turn this feature off. I plugged back in, pressed that and now the control is no longer locked and everything seems to work and the beeping stopped. I really hope my dryer isn't dying. It still works great. Is my dryer dying? Is it normal for the dryer to beep when it's in control lock?


Post# 1041698 , Reply# 1   8/14/2019 at 08:49 (197 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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It may be possible that you had a brief power blip/surge in the night and caused the electronics to glitch.

 

When My control panel went out two years ago, it was more of a beep--fritzzzzzzzl, then all was dead.


Post# 1041700 , Reply# 2   8/14/2019 at 08:56 (197 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
mark wp_duet here my advice

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@mark wp_duet,

here my advice maybe you should call a whirlpool service tech and have your dryer check out because my mom and I have a 15 year old generation 1 whirlpool duet set washer and dryer the dryer still works great the dryer only had 2 repairs first 1 was a simple cleaning and 2 was the replacement of a termal fuse inside the dryer, I also think it would be the first step to do before you decide to chose to replace it also including a link just incase you decide you went to stay with whirlpool if you have to replace I hope for you that your dryer will be repairable since it would be save you from having to buy a new dryer or a new washer dryer set in what ever you decide

www.whirlpool.ca/en_ca/la...


Post# 1041702 , Reply# 3   8/14/2019 at 09:08 (197 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
well

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I unplugged, plugged back in......then pressed end of cycle signal and it stopped and everything was fine.........then an hour later, it starts doing the SAME thing. From what I've read it's the control board and the part looks like its around $250? The dryer is almost 15 years old. Do you think it's worth it to bother with repair? Maybe it is. I don't know. I'm sure labor would make it over $300
Does anyone know the the cubic feet of these are? It's the OLD duet dryers. I wanna say 7 cu ft but I can't remember.


Post# 1041714 , Reply# 4   8/14/2019 at 11:29 (197 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
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Is there any chance you can find a similar model with burnt out motor or any issue not the same as yours and use the PCB from it?

Cheaper than a part or new dryer!

Or can anyone repair it ?

Austin


Post# 1041716 , Reply# 5   8/14/2019 at 11:49 (197 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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Replacing the control board two years ago on my Maytag 5000 series/ Duet clone; was $495 and change.  My machines at that time were eight years old, nearing the planned self-destruct age assigned them by Whirlpool. 


Post# 1041720 , Reply# 6   8/14/2019 at 12:32 (197 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Ya

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Thanks for all the help but the more I read online, but more I'm sure this will cost quite a bit (possibly as much as the dryer I just bought, see link). Total was $496 after taxes. I really hope they make dryers to last now and I've always heard Whirlpool makes the best dryers, but everything is so cheapened now.. I dunno. I really don't want something else with a control board even though I would love for it to match. I think maybe when my Duet dies my next FL I will just use without a pedestal. I don't mind the bending.

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Post# 1041721 , Reply# 7   8/14/2019 at 12:46 (197 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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Good luck with your new dryer.  It's surprising that your washer outlasted your dryer, because that never used to be the case, especially with FL models.  Just goes to show that those first generation of Duets were good washers.

 

New parts have become so expensive that the only solution is used parts or even better, as Yogitunes pointed out to me, buying entire donor machines on the cheap before the need arises. 

 

More hassle than just ordering parts and requires space to store them but it's really the only economically sound plan to keep old machines running these days.


Post# 1041755 , Reply# 8   8/14/2019 at 16:34 (197 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
My dryer went first as well

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Which was funny, as I don't use the dryer half as much as the washer.   During the summer months, and warm days in the winter months I hang outside.

 

In any case, I did opt to repair my machine because it was originally a $1,200 dryer. I actually didn't pay that much, it was one of the promotions in August that year "Maytag Steal on Steam" I bought the washer, got the dryer free. 

 

If you are handy at all, you can order the part from repair clinic.  This is what I did with the fill valve on both the washer and the dishwasher.  When getting into the electronics I get squimish. 


Post# 1041759 , Reply# 9   8/14/2019 at 17:28 (197 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

As cheaply made as the 29 inch dryer has become, you will notice faster, wrinkle free drying better than the Duet. You may have had a stuck key on the user interface, which, I think is NLA. Did you get a fault code on the display, assuming it has one?

Post# 1041764 , Reply# 10   8/14/2019 at 17:52 (197 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Nope

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The saddest part is that it still looks new because I take such good care of everything. I did find a video of exactly what mine was doing.......but the one in the video looks NASTY.
There were no fault codes on the display. Just beeping and no button presses did ANYTHING. Also, I noticed the lights that were on got really dim.


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Post# 1041786 , Reply# 11   8/14/2019 at 22:14 (197 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
29 dryer

I actually agree, if space allows! Maybe a new Maytag 8.8 or 9.2 cu ft machine is better? I almost bought one and wish I did!

Post# 1041834 , Reply# 12   8/15/2019 at 16:57 (196 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Hey Mark, Not sure if you are comfortable popping the board in and out yourself, but if you were these folks might be able to fix you up for $100

circuitboardmedics.com/whirlpool...

Check if your model is one of the ones listed. The first one mentions beeping as a failure issue.

It isn't all that tough to pull and replace the board. Between YouTube and folks here I'd bet you could do it. It is a shame to scrap any dryer that isn't 30 years old. A simple board repair may double it's life


Post# 1041849 , Reply# 13   8/15/2019 at 18:59 (196 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
its just like my dryer

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its just like my dryer its the same model so i say its worth repairing might last you longer than any newer models

Post# 1041879 , Reply# 14   8/16/2019 at 00:06 (196 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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The link Phil provided would be worth checking out.  The place appears legit and has excellent reviews at Google, Facebook and BBB.

 

You have to send them the board and they have a one day turn-around once they receive it. 

 

I will be bookmarking this one myself.  Never know when I might need it.


Post# 1041931 , Reply# 15   8/16/2019 at 20:49 (195 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
It's so ironic

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that I have that website saved in my bookmarks from a LONG time ago......for my Duet washer....where you send them your control board, they fix it, and send it back. I don't know why I didn't even think about the dryer. But it's too late now. Oh well.... I'm not getting the dryer until next Tuesday. I'm not excited at all because I don't find dryers nearly as cool as washers or dishwashers. Please tell me I can use the same cord from my Duet dryer. There's NOTHING wrong with it. Surely there's no reason I couldn't use it. I can't think of any.

Anyway - if anything goes wrong my Duet Control board for my washer........That's what I'm going to do........(as long as that's all that's wrong with it)... It seems fine as far as bearings, etc. Once it a while it squeaks slightly when it rotates but it's done that off/on for six years.... I will keep my Duet washer as LONG as I possibly can because I LOVE it (best washer I've ever had), even though at first I HATED it because I wasn't familiar with FL washers and I thought they used way more water. I remember back in 2005 when I first got it I was expecting a laundromat type FL so it took me a bit to get used to it.


Post# 1041974 , Reply# 16   8/17/2019 at 04:13 (195 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        

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Similar problem here: my dryer recently shut off when the cycle was done. "Off" as in dead. No lights. Nothing. A quick search brought up a site that explains that very problem and sells a repair kit (chip + resistor) for 13 bucks. Luckily, there's a TV repair place next to my office which does soldering. Hopefully, that'll solve the problem - a new board would have been almost 200 Euros.

Good luck with you new dryer!


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Post# 1042026 , Reply# 17   8/17/2019 at 14:35 (194 days old) by dartman (Portland Oregon)        
Amazon and eBay for parts

I use those two and do saved searches and save good vendors. I bought a brand new OEM pump for my Kenmore/whirlpool 28102 washer after I noticed how noisy it was after replacing the main shaft bearings and seal. Those spin cycle drain pumps are around 100 normally and I found it for 29 shipped and a few places had it or a similar one that had a plug adapter included for 36 to 40.
Here's their eBay page needappliancepartscom in case anyone needs parts they might have a deal on. It sounds like they buy up surplus parts or at least were clearing their warehouse of older parts and selling them cheap.


Post# 1042348 , Reply# 18   8/20/2019 at 18:34 (191 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Got new dryer

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no longer matching :( but that's OK. I can deal with it. This dryer doesn't feel cheaply made to me at all. I'm used to sensor dry but this has automatic dry. I did a decent sized load of mixed colors on autodry/normal/medium heat and the load was completely dry and dryer shut up after about 45 minutes (not bad) In fact, I think that is a wee bit faster than my duet dryer. It's so weird going back to a dryer like this because this is the exact type of dryers I grew up with. The hamper door dryers with lint screen on the top. I used to keep my vacuum in between the washer dryer/ there was just enough space for it. Since this dryer is a little wider, I no longer can do that so I just keep it in front of the dryer. I keep a vacuuum in my laundry to vacuum everything when I'm done doing laundry, including the lint screen. I couldn't stand not having a vacuum in the laundry room.

Anyway, I'm not exactly sure I'm understanding the Auto dry thing. The manual doesn't explain it well how it works with wrinkle shield. There are pictures showing a dedicated button for wrinkle shield and for how long you want wrinkle shield to go before it stops. But this dryer doesn't have that button, but there is a wrinkle shield on the main dial. I had the end of cycle signal on but I had water running in kitchen and didn't hear a thing. When I turned the water off, I noticed the dryer had stopped. It got the entire load evenly dry which is something my Duet RARELY did with sensor dry. So I just opened the dryer and folded the load right away, but noticed the dial was not on OFF... Oh well, I'll figure it out. At least it seems to work well drying! I feel like it's a bit noisier than my Duet (more of an airflow noise), like the rushing air is more pronounced, but that's ok.

Now my old Duet is still in my garage. I wonder if someone would want to buy it for parts or something?


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Post# 1042386 , Reply# 19   8/21/2019 at 10:24 (190 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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I actually have that same dryer! :) So far it seems to be a pretty bulletproof machine, and I love having a hamper style door again, because I missed that after I sold the Kenmore 600 I had. The only other thing to get used to is having the lint filter on top again, but I don't mind it. I do miss my BravosXL, and especially miss my WP WFW/WED92 front load set, but I have a WTW4855 with this matching 4850 dryer and I actually really like them alot.

I know, I know...I need to make a MAJOR update post at some point. I've now had two more new dishwashers, sold the BravosXL and the Kenmore dryer I had, remodeled the laundry room, had the Whirlpool Duet set for two years, and now those are in storage because we're moving soon, and I have this 4855 set until then, which we'll sell with the house.

I'll attach a pic of the 92 series set and the 4855/50 set I have in currently.


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Post# 1042397 , Reply# 20   8/21/2019 at 12:38 (190 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Cool!

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This dryer is so different from my duet dryer in the sound that it makes. It's like I'll be standing in the laundry room and I can literally hear the airflow more at times than others while the dryer is running. I'm not sure what's happening during the drying process but it's dries clothes really well.

I'm not sure, but I think those top loading lint screen, when pulling them out, bits of lint can fall off down into the area that holds the lint screen and build up lint over time, but I have a vacuum attachment that's supposed to reach down to the bottom where the lint falls. I would also not feel nearly as paranoid about taking the back of this dryer to clean lint build up as I did the Duet dryer.

That laundry room pic... I LOVE IT


Post# 1042421 , Reply# 21   8/21/2019 at 19:39 (190 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
Mark wp_duet

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just a quick question if you had to replace your duet washer would you stick to a front load or get the matching washer to your new dryer?

Post# 1042438 , Reply# 22   8/21/2019 at 21:32 (190 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
NOOO

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I'm definitely getting another FL washer just not the pedestal. Ideally it would be a FL washer with rear controls but they don't make them, unless it's a speed queen, which I don't want because they don't have heaters.



Post# 1042439 , Reply# 23   8/21/2019 at 21:34 (190 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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thank you for your answer was only wondering thats all

Post# 1042531 , Reply# 24   8/22/2019 at 20:50 (189 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Hey

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no problem? I wasn't screaming I was just expressing that I would definitely be getting a FL my next washer. I have a really dumb question now. With this dryer, when you move the dial, is it safe to move it clockwise AND counterclockwise?

Post# 1042565 , Reply# 25   8/23/2019 at 08:46 (188 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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usually these dryers its recommended to turn the dial clock wise to the selected cycle

Post# 1042574 , Reply# 26   8/23/2019 at 12:38 (188 days old) by DADoES (TX,U.S. of A.)        

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Dryer timers by-and-large are bidirectional, CC and CCW. I recall hearing SQ are unidirectional, only CW.


Post# 1042641 , Reply# 27   8/24/2019 at 13:28 (187 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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After doing a few loads of laundry since the new dryer, I definitely like auto dry better than the sensor dry on my Duet. So far it's been very accurate. The longest it's taken to far to dry a load was 50 minutes (medium heat), some less. With my Duet dryer, even though the sensor strips were clean, I would get mixed results every time. If I chose the maximum dryness level, often, the display would show a lot of time remaining and when I would stop to check the clothes would be BONE dry and HOT so the heating element still fully engaging with dry clothes. If I chose medium dryness level, the dryer would stop and clothes would still be a little too damp. So I would always just choose max dryness level and try to run in there periodically to check. It's nice to not have to do that. Could have been something wrong with the sensor, I don't know.

Last night, since this dryer type is so common, I had no trouble finding videos showing how to take the back off and the lint chamber off to clean it. On my Duet, the bottom panel came off but it wasn't easy to clean certain areas. This dryer is so much simpler.


Post# 1042645 , Reply# 28   8/24/2019 at 15:18 (187 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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It's quite an easy platform to work on. I haven't had any issues at all with the auto dry. Sure, it's not as sophisticated as the WED92 was, and doesn't have as many sensors, but WP's automatic method on this simpler platform has been tried and true for probably 50 years, maybe more. As far as I understand, it uses a temperature sensor to sense the air that is being exhausted, and as soon as that temperature starts to rise, indicating that there is less moisture to dissipate the heat, it starts to reduce the frequency of the heating element turning on/off, and then stops all together, and that's when you see the dial in the "cool down" area. This is also why the dial doesn't start to move until that temperature sensor engages and completes the circuit to tell the timer motor to start spinning.

As far as the question of what direction to turn the dial, I had the same thought since this is the first mechanical timer dryer I've had since 2013. The dryer we grew up with was a late 80s Kenmore that was this platform exactly, and we always just turned it counter-clockwise to the normal automatic dry setting. That dryer was still running fine in 2009 when my parents got a F&P dryer after I moved out. That said, after reading several different reviews or articles saying it's best to turn it the direction it turns itself, I've start just turning it CW just like a mechanical washer dial.

As far as the actual drying, it seems to do a perfect job with normal dark and colors loads when set to Normal and low temperature. Towels and sheets do better if the dial is set between the More Dry and Normal spot, with medium temperature.


Post# 1042658 , Reply# 29   8/24/2019 at 17:40 (187 days old) by DADoES (TX,U.S. of A.)        

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All dryers (well, maybe not some *really* old units) have a thermostat (or thermistor) in the exhaust air to control the temperature, otherwise they'd heat out-of-control. Thermostatic auto-dry simply controls the timer motor through it ... in opposition to the heat source. The nature of the drying process is what makes the heat source run more (and the timer less) at the beginning due to moisture evaporation holding the air temperature down ... and accordingly run less as the items head toward dryness and hold heat more readily.


Post# 1052298 , Reply# 30   11/25/2019 at 17:18 by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Now that you've had the dryer awhile

Mark,do you find auto dry best for drying most if not all loads?

Post# 1052338 , Reply# 31   11/26/2019 at 05:35 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Yes

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to elaborate:
I strictly use auto dry. I used to use medium heat but I'm using high heat for most everything because I read that the old medium is the new "low" and the new High is medium. Whether or not that's true, I can't say for this dryer.
I have noticed that if I turn the dial to around normal, the loads will be a little damp when done....but if I turn it beteen normal and more dry that seems about perfect. Seems like it takes about 45 to 50 minutes to dry a load, which I guess isn't that bad. Now, if the load isn't completely dry for my taste when it shuts off, which has only happened ONCE, that's when things aren't as accurate. If I turn the dryer BACK on, even though the clothes are totally bone dry, the dryer was still running trying to dry them. Overall I really like the dryer better than my Duet dryer.


Post# 1052366 , Reply# 32   11/26/2019 at 10:39 by roscoe62 (Canada)        
45-50 Minutes

seems more normal for a drying time on most loads, unless it's unusually large. I have a dryer on order like the one you purchased, it reminds me of the older model Kenmore I we owned about 15 years ago, I used the auto dry and every load was bone dry when the machine shut down.
I have had three of the newer front load dryers, not one will dry everything completely dry, even set on Driest or More Dry settings, it's like a crap shoot with every load. All I want is DRIED clothes when the machine stops, HUH!!
Do you think the wrinkle shield is on auto if you don't get to dryer after it has completed the cycle?


Post# 1052629 , Reply# 33   11/28/2019 at 18:59 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
yep

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the buzzer buzzes really fast too.......sometimes it's so fast I don't even hear it, but wrinkle shield kicks in and it will buzz again. On this dryer, if you choose more dry you will have bone dry clothes when it shuts off. The only load that has taken longer than the 45-50 min range was 62 minutes but that was a huge load of heavy jeans.

Post# 1052665 , Reply# 34   11/29/2019 at 08:46 by roscoe62 (Canada)        
So once the door is opened

I'm guessing the wrinkle shield shuts off.
It seems to be far more efficient at drying than the one I have, it's very pokey, but it'll be short lived here, it'll be gone, gone, gone, pretty soon. Since it's star rated I'd like to send it to the moon with a few people attached to it :).
Thanks for you help Mark, appreciate it.


Post# 1052688 , Reply# 35   11/29/2019 at 10:38 by appnut (TX)        

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From my 1986 LK with its mechanical timer, when wrinkle shield had started and you opened the door to retrieve some items.  When I closed the door and pushed start button, it would resume the 5 minute periodic tumble to the end of wrinkle shield.  


Post# 1052730 , Reply# 36   11/29/2019 at 18:02 by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
You know

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now that I think about it........mostly as soon as I hear the buzzer, I go and open the door and fold the clothes......clean the lint screen and vacuum up around the area and I will forget that the turn the dial to off, but it doesn't do wrinkle shield after I close the door.....the dial will just turn itself to OFF after a bit of time without coming back on....so I can only assume that the dryer knows the door has been opened and that stops wrinkle shield from coming on? I don't know HOW.....but wrinkle shield works fine UNLESS the door has been opened.....I'm thinking if you want wrinkle shield to keep going, you have to close the door and push START again or the timer will just go back to OFF on its own without coming on again.




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