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LG's new turbowash360
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Post# 1043103   8/29/2019 at 19:53 (1,646 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        

Hello everybody. Has anybody seen videos of the new LG turbowash360 model Wm3900hwa? What's different and new about these models? Why does the rinse jet seem stronger than previous models? If the machine is set to normal with a full load of towels, what speed will the turbowash recirculating pump run at? How much time does it take for the normal cycle at default?
Inquiring minds want to know. I'd also like to know how it will handle dirty work clothes what are sturdy.

Post# 1043131 , Reply# 1   8/29/2019 at 22:42 (1,645 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I'd like to see a video too. The pictures showing 5 spray lets......Looks awesome. This machine doesn't look horribly expensive either. I'm thinking this might be my next washer (no pedestal) I also hope they still have that long powerful spray rinse that the older turbowash LG's have.

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Post# 1043134 , Reply# 2   8/29/2019 at 22:57 (1,645 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Rinse jet design

I wonder what LG did to their rinse jet. Is it separate from the bleach dispenser, or is it still connected? I'm referring to the jet rinse hose under the hood.

Post# 1043136 , Reply# 3   8/30/2019 at 00:18 (1,645 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)        
Lorain Furniture has done some vids

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Post# 1043144 , Reply# 4   8/30/2019 at 05:10 (1,645 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Thank you so much

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Love the wash action, love the spray rinse. The recirculation kept going even with that little bit of water. LOVE LOVE the spray rinse. I'm sure this washer will clean great and be fun to watch sometimes when you're super bored. I just wish LG made this with REAR controls. They used to make a rear control FL washer but they don't anymore.

Post# 1043166 , Reply# 5   8/30/2019 at 11:05 (1,645 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        

I'd love to convince my parents to get this washer and matching dryer. We already have their laundry pairs for some time now, and so far seem to hold up well. My mom has had hers for just over a decade, and my dad has had his for a few. His is under the Kenmore elite label made by the same people, and got it used when the couple before him got it brand new. I wonder what their true balance system is composed of. I'm sure their direct drive motors produce electricity when you spin the tub. I noticed that LG front loads don't have tub rings. Is this true or is it hidden somewhere?

Post# 1043231 , Reply# 6   8/30/2019 at 21:03 (1,645 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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The LG 3900, with its new 360 turbo-wash system, tops the ratings at Consumer Reports. As mentioned in the video above, it replaced the popular 3770.

CR rates it Excellent for reliability, consumer satisfaction (a recently-added category), cleaning performance, energy efficiency and water efficiency. It received Very Good ratings for noise and vibration. The one ding is a Fair rating for gentleness to fabrics.

It has an onboard water heater and includes a sanitize cycle, an allergen cycle, and a steam option.

The $900 price tag is enticing, as well.

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Post# 1043254 , Reply# 7   8/30/2019 at 23:12 (1,644 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Cleaning performance

I'm sure it did perform well on the normal cycle. I don't wear delicate fabrics anyway. The vast majority of my clothes are everyday cottons. I wonder how the normal cycle will handle an everyday family sized load.

Post# 1043260 , Reply# 8   8/31/2019 at 00:02 (1,644 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

I'm not a fan of the spray rinse during the spin cycles (on front loaders at least). On my WM4370 it seems to do more harm than good especially on large loads. The washer ends up water logging the outer tub and detects it very late, sometimes even generating suds making certain cycles longer than they need to be as I need to add rinses.

Post# 1043367 , Reply# 9   8/31/2019 at 08:14 (1,644 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Switched DC pumps

They brought the new TurboWash to the EU as well.

They are using switched DC pumps both for recirc and drain now.
By their nature of being activley controlled synchronus systems they are somewhat more efficent, thus quieter and run less hot and are in theory more durable.
That is also what keeps the recirc constant yet weak: Lower pump speed means less flow volume.

They went away from recirculation in the EU over the past few sears as the asynchronus recirc pumps tended to be weak points with our longer and hotter wash cycles.

First DC recirc system I heard off (and couldn't belive at that time) was Mieles PowerWash (yes, the PowerWash system is in theory a variable speed system, though I haven't seen it doing much except for adjusting\sensing for cavitation).

They do use a variable speed drain pump (you can hear it ramp to full speed for drain, then ramp down to minimum once empty, then ramp up again as the tub ramps up and then adjusting speed according to water output).

Makes the machines incredibly quiet and great at dealing with huge water loads, bad thing is that if something gets past a pump filter and somehow manages to block a pump impeller, your PCB is likely to turn to toast.

Post# 1043441 , Reply# 10   8/31/2019 at 22:55 (1,643 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Hose for the rinse jet

Is the hose for the rinse jet still connected to the bleach dispenser or is separate from that. Is it it's own freshwater hose, or is it connected to any dispenser valve at all? This is a very fascinating machine to watch.

Post# 1043444 , Reply# 11   9/1/2019 at 00:39 (1,643 days old) by georgect (Fairfield, CT)        
Tub Light

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I wish it had a tub light like it's matching dryer.
Silly to omit a drum light.

Post# 1043454 , Reply# 12   9/1/2019 at 07:20 (1,643 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

The UK site has this image regarding the variable speed recirc pump...

Quite interesting!

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Post# 1043476 , Reply# 13   9/1/2019 at 10:36 (1,643 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        

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This should have applied to the US as well but it seems some of the items presented in January 2018 haven't made it yet.

Post# 1043517 , Reply# 14   9/1/2019 at 17:37 (1,643 days old) by PinkPower4 (USA)        
PCB and Water Level Switch?

@henene4 and others:

Why is the pcb likely to be toast if something gets past the filter?

Does anyone know if the water level switch can be adjusted?

Does Whirlpool/Maytag have anything like this?

Post# 1043519 , Reply# 15   9/1/2019 at 18:28 (1,643 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

It's an activley controled pump.

If it's blocked it is likely to burn out.
On "dumb" AC pumps they would burn out.
On the DC pumps, the weakest links are the control parts which in turn would burn out instead of the pump itself if it got blocked/stalled.

Post# 1043520 , Reply# 16   9/1/2019 at 18:29 (1,643 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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"Why is the pcb likely to be toast if something gets past the filter?"

On many if not all modern washing machines everything is controlled off PCB board. Thus anything that can cause an electrical short, surge of power, etc... may "fry" the board. One that happens either thing must be replaced or machine is usually bricked.

Washing machines and dishwashers or any other appliance where pump is driven from main motor or even its own by not controlled by a PCB board will have issues confined to itself alone. Thus if the pump motor fails say because something cause impeller to jam, one either repairs or replaces, and that is that.

Modern electronic technology has done wonders for washing machines and dishwashers. For a start it allows them to do quite a lot with far less water usage. However there are trade offs; having a pump controlled via electronics/PCB board again means you're totally reliant upon latter remaining in good condition.

Far to many appliances are rubbished simply because PCB board has failed and cost of new is more than the thing is worth new.

Post# 1043525 , Reply# 17   9/1/2019 at 19:21 (1,643 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I can remember

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first joining the forums around 2005 when I got my first generation Duet and different people talking about their FL washers, etc. One of the big things I remember was staying away from LG for the simple fact that if something went wrong, finding a technician who works on them and finding parts would be a nightmare and a long wait. Since they have been around a long time I'm sure that's not the case now.

Post# 1043614 , Reply# 18   9/2/2019 at 19:25 (1,642 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Yes, when LG first hit USA market their service network wasn't very robust. Believe they have solved that issue for some time now however.

Those early LG washers and combos gave Miele, Bosch and other European brands a run for their money. Far cheaper than TOL offerings (Miele especially), but better build quality along with value for money than Equator or Malber. Neither of those two had particularly great nor extensive service either IIRC.

Post# 1043722 , Reply# 19   9/3/2019 at 16:12 (1,641 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Water level

The older LG machines you could still adjust the water level. However, I am not sure of the new ones. If they did switch, I would likely buy an older model instead!

Post# 1069793 , Reply# 20   4/28/2020 at 22:21 (1,402 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
wash pump and rinse jet

I noticed that on the normal cycle, the turbowash recirculation pump would cut on and off 3 times during main wash. Also, when the rinse jet came on, water flowed through the main wash compartment I could've sworn. Anybody notice? I did.

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