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Thread Number: 80643
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Is powdered detergent safe for dishes? |
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Post# 1046144 , Reply# 1 9/27/2019 at 20:52 (1,672 days old) by ea56  (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Back in the 50’s and early 60’s just about everyone on both sides of my family used powdered detergent to wash dishes, in those old fashioned oval enameled dish pans. Usually Ivory Snow or White King D, I believe. One of them packed a towel in every box for a while, but not Ivory Snow. And actually Ivory Snow is powdered soap, not a detergent.
And they washed the “good china” this way too. I think my Mom was one of the first in the family to use Joy, back when it came in a can and it wasn’t ”lemon freshened”. I got my mouth washed out with it once. Believe me it was much worse than bar soap! Eddie This post was last edited 09/27/2019 at 21:30 | ||
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Post# 1046149 , Reply# 2 9/27/2019 at 21:29 (1,672 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Using Powered Detergent To wash Dishes My Mons Mother always used powered Tide to wash dishes, in the 50s-60s Tide was a good detergent with phosphates and worked very well on dishes, mordent laundry detergents would probably also work very well as long as you stay away from detergents with added fabric softener etc.
I dough that Ivory Snow would be a good choice unless your water was very soft as it was soap and would be likely to leave a film on glasses and dishes.
Hi Eddy, what did you say to cause you to have your mouth get washed out with Joy ? | ||
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Post# 1046150 , Reply# 3 9/27/2019 at 21:33 (1,672 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Post# 1046158 , Reply# 4 9/27/2019 at 22:04 (1,672 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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The water was very soft in Richmond, Calif. and actually Ivory Snow or Ivory Flakes were the ones’ best liked because they were easier on the hands. I also recall Tide being used, very slippery had to be careful not to drop the dishes while rinsing. I think that maybe it was Rinso that packed a towel in the box.
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Post# 1046163 , Reply# 5 9/27/2019 at 23:47 (1,672 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Back in day when powdered laundry detergents were mainly just phosphates, surfactant (anionic mostly), silicates, fragrance and some other bits, no; there wasn't anything wrong with using for washing up. Even later when powders switched to washing soda instead of phosphates things weren't "that" bad. However can think of many reasons why one shouldn't.
First and foremost an enzyme laden detergent is going to do a job on one's skin. Two many laundry detergents today are far more powerful than in past and contain a host of ingredients that may prove difficult to rinse off dishes. Scent, borax and some other things come to mind. If you can lay hands on a mild laundry detergent that may be different. | ||
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Post# 1046195 , Reply# 6 9/28/2019 at 09:13 (1,672 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I remember the towels hanging over the edge of the bottom shelf in the detergent aisle, but I don't remember the brand. Maybe it was SuperSuds. Old boxes of Super Suds had the jingle, "Super Suds Floods O' Suds For Dishes and Duds" | ||
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Post# 1046202 , Reply# 7 9/28/2019 at 10:45 (1,672 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Tide for dishes P&G does make an all-purpose version of Tide powder. It's recommended for walls, floors, pots and pans, etc. It comes in 18 or 36 lb. cartons, and 1.5 oz. packets in box of 100. | ||
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Post# 1046206 , Reply# 8 9/28/2019 at 12:52 (1,671 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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Just for fun (I have a strange idea of fun) I’ve been using a bit of 1968ish Tide XK to wash dishes. The XK was Tide’s first enzyme detergent, but I assume the enzymes are inactive after 50 years, so it shouldn’t be harder on hands than regular Tide of the day.
Yes, the phosphates make everything very slippery and you have to carefully rinse the dishes if you air dry and don’t want detergent spots. It works fine, but there’s no advantage to using it rather than a liquid. The powdered Trend of the day (“for dishes and fine fabrics”) was linear alkylate sulfonate and sodium borate, according to the box. It works great without phosphates and dishes are easier to handle and rinse. | ||
| Post# 1046220 , Reply# 9 9/28/2019 at 16:08 (1,671 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
are you gonna say it again | ||
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Post# 1046223 , Reply# 10 9/28/2019 at 16:17 (1,671 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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So, Eddie, did you ever say that word again?!? | ||
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Post# 1046251 , Reply# 11 9/28/2019 at 21:18 (1,671 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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The brand with the towels was Breeze. It took a few hours, but it finally came to me. | ||
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Post# 1046253 , Reply# 12 9/28/2019 at 23:25 (1,671 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Thanks Tom, | ||
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Post# 1046291 , Reply# 13 9/29/2019 at 14:42 (1,670 days old) by bendix5 (Central Point, Oregon) |
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My mom washed dishes in Breeze. She collected the dish towels, washed and ironed them and then embroidered them for gifts. When I really grease up the kitchen cooking I will fill sink and add a little gain powder. It really cuts the grease unlike any dishwashing liquid. I had no side effects on counters or stove.
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Post# 1046292 , Reply# 14 9/29/2019 at 14:58 (1,670 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 1046317 , Reply# 15 9/29/2019 at 18:40 (1,670 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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I hear that Mexican detergents like Foca do a great job on dishes. Put about 1/4 cup in the bottom of your dishwasher, press start and prepare for the show of a lifetime! 😈😈
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| Post# 1046323 , Reply# 16 9/29/2019 at 19:02 (1,670 days old) by Oliger (Indianapolis, Indiana) | ||
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I wash dishes in the sink. I like them to sparkle. I also am not a fan of leftovers. | ||
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Post# 1046326 , Reply# 17 9/29/2019 at 19:22 (1,670 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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Jon,
I’m the freak of nature on AW.org that also likes to wash our dishes by hand, but I do like leftovers, LOL.
I don’t like to have to come back to any task later on, like unloading the DW, and I also find the process strangely therapeutic and calming, go figure, huh. I use Palmolive Ultra Strength Liquid, cuts grease well and is easy on the hands and the scent is pleasant. All of my Pyrex and Farberware pots and pans sparkle, no DW ever cleaned them as well. Eddie | ||
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Post# 1046331 , Reply# 19 9/29/2019 at 20:02 (1,670 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 1046339 , Reply# 20 9/29/2019 at 20:31 (1,670 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.) |
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I like to look out the window while washing dishes, | ||
| Post# 1046352 , Reply# 21 9/29/2019 at 22:24 (1,670 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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I have lived in five apartments since we sold the house, and NONE of them had windows over the sink, so why not use the machine?? Each to his own. If doing dishes by hand is for you, more power to you. It does not Thrill me, or bring me much Joy........... Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
| Post# 1046409 , Reply# 22 9/30/2019 at 09:24 (1,670 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA) | ||
 As a single guy I could easily live without a dishwasher. On average I run it once a week. A lot of times I just rinse off whatever dishes I was using and put them in the sink rack to dry to use again.
The microwave oven is what I would really miss if I didn't have one. Hard to believe they can bought for $40 (or even less on sale) these days. | ||
| Post# 1046486 , Reply# 23 10/1/2019 at 01:05 (1,669 days old) by sarahperdue (Alabama) | ||
Palmolive | ||
| Post# 1046571 , Reply# 24 10/1/2019 at 23:30 (1,668 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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| Post# 1046572 , Reply# 25 10/1/2019 at 23:42 (1,668 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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I personally hate doing dishes by hand. I'm pretty sure I swore 12 years ago that I'd never, ever live without a dishwasher again...only to be forced to accept living in a place with no dishwasher! That said, I don't think it's crazy preferring to wash dishes by hand. One person's relaxing task is another person's drudgery, and all that.
The funny thing for me is that I was once cynical about the value of dishwashers--at least for someone like me (single, living alone). Then I had a chance to use one (and did so just to try it)...and quickly got hooked. Indeed, I thought there was nothing as relaxing as sitting in the next room, watching TV, sipping a glass of wine...while the dishwasher ran in the background, doing all those wretched dishes! | ||
| Post# 1046573 , Reply# 26 10/1/2019 at 23:50 (1,668 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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>[Microwaves] can bought for $40 (or even less on sale) these days
Or how about getting one for about a dollar, like I did? (Admittedly, it was at Goodwill, and a very special sale). But, yes, it's amazing how cheap they can be. That's another gadget I was once cynical about. When I was a teenager, someone told my mother that we should consider getting a microwave because "they are so cheap now!" (although probably a lot more than $40!) and it would be something I might find useful. I had no enthusiasm for the idea--my attitude was more or less "why bother?" Today, I'm not sure I consider them indispensable, but I find it very handy having one, and really wouldn't want to go back to no microwave. Although if I had to choose between a microwave and a dishwasher, the dishwasher would probably win. | ||
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Post# 1046579 , Reply# 27 10/2/2019 at 01:51 (1,668 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Since I don't have many dishes-just clean them by hand.My KA dishwasher died several years ago.Just NOT interested in buying a piddle dishwasher that takes 2-3 hrs to wash dishes when I can do them in 10 minutes!Don't have ANY use for new time wasting appliances.REMEMBER------TIME is a resource you don't get back! | ||
| Post# 1046644 , Reply# 28 10/2/2019 at 16:43 (1,667 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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>TIME is a resource you don't get back!
Very true. This is one argument in my mind for having a dishwasher. It might only take a few minutes a few times a day...but that time adds up... That said... I can't say I'm a fan of the idea of long cycle times. Yes, I've heard the argument it really doesn't matter, because you don't have to be standing there as it works! BUT those cycle times can be inconvenient if one is doing something that will generate a lot of dishes through a day (family holiday events, entertaining in general, a cooking binge to fill the freezer). I also personally don't like to leave appliances like dishwashers running entirely unattended. I may be paranoid, but I like to be around in case something goes really wrong. I'm not one of those "I'll hit the button and go out for the evening types!" either. | ||
| Post# 1046670 , Reply# 29 10/2/2019 at 21:36 (1,667 days old) by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA) | ||
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I know an older guy who runs his dishwasher twice a day! In the morning after his breakfast (coffee cup, cereal bowl, spoon) and in the evening (plate, glass, silverware, maybe a pot or pan.)
His wife passed away a few years ago and everybody worried how he would get along with housekeeping. He does pretty well, all things considered so if this is his system we don't dare criticize. We all envisioned unwashed dishes piled to the ceiling. | ||
| Post# 1046680 , Reply# 31 10/3/2019 at 01:40 (1,667 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room) | ||
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Post# 1046880 , Reply# 33 10/5/2019 at 07:17 (1,665 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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