Thread Number: 80881
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
I HATE Scrappers and "Haul Away" from big box stores. I think all of us do. |
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Post# 1048847   10/25/2019 at 23:53 (1,644 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)   |   | |
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Does anyone agree with this one? It makes me sick that whenever I go to the scrap yard for new findings or to get rid of some junk and I see someone come in with a trailer full of machines and on Youtube today I saw someone bring in a load of "Collectibles" Including but not limited to Maytag Neptune,Whirlpool Calypso,LG TROMM,Possible 1-18 and a direct drive. It saddens me as well I had to scrap some machines in my life like my Frigidaire Front loader the spider arm broke in 1/3 from anaerobic corrosion because the spider is Aluminum and the drum is stainless. I wanted to repair it but the spider is not available separately from the tub and it was $530 for a brand new one. I basically watched powerlessly as I unloaded it at the scrap heap and watched it be destroyed. I felt depressed for about 2 weeks because it was my first front loader. About the Haul-Aways from big box stores I am completely powerless on new findings/Donor machines because they load them in the back and haul them off to the scrap heap some near me like my local Home Depot send the haul aways to one of the scrap yards near me. I Happen to go to it and I made a contract with them. there is another store near me that is "A Family owned business". And I know that because they sell Speed Queen. Their Haul-Aways go to a Used Appliance store and I made good friends with the owner and thankfully enough most of the donors/new findings are "disposable junk" because usually one of 3 options. 1: too expensive to repair. 2: I don't have time for this or 3: It's usually too rusty. So This is getting long and if you take the time to read this please reply as long as it is a nice thing to say. (It does not have to be supportive and it NEEDS to not be HATEFUL towards me)
If this is too controversial please move this to Dirty Laundry and give me a warning for a first time offense. I think it makes no sense to ban me for a first time offence. |
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Post# 1048849 , Reply# 1   10/25/2019 at 23:58 (1,644 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1048850 , Reply# 2   10/26/2019 at 00:04 (1,644 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)   |   | |
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Viewer Discretion is advised. Calypso gets smashed on camera.
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Post# 1048856 , Reply# 3   10/26/2019 at 02:58 (1,644 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 1048867 , Reply# 4   10/26/2019 at 05:58 (1,644 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi Kelly, Yes everyone here hates seeing vintage appliances that could be fixed get scraped, but bitching about it does little good.
You could learn to repair appliances and either work go for a company or start an appliance store that specializes in reselling good used appliances.
We are always in need of people that want to get into this business repairing and rebuilding appliances, almost every town and city in the US has openings for people that want to work on major appliances.
Call Me, John L. |
Post# 1048868 , Reply# 5   10/26/2019 at 06:13 (1,644 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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You can't keep them all. I get in probably 30 a month or so. What should I do with the ones that aren't worth fixing? Front loaders with bad bearings, or the electronics are out? Maytag Neptunes that have had a rough life, and are not worth saving? BD Whirlpool and Kenmore machines that no one wants? Do I pay to warehouse them, hoping that years from now, someone would want them? I have a Kenmore BD set, got them several months ago, that I've offered FREE to anyone on here. No takers. Just picked up a vintage Hotpoint machine. No idea what to do with it, but I couldn't let it go bye. BOL Maytags, like a A106, that no one wants.
What should I do with them? Any of those machines pictured are FREE to anyone who comes to pick them up. When can I expect you? |
Post# 1048884 , Reply# 8   10/26/2019 at 09:53 (1,644 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 1048889 , Reply# 10   10/26/2019 at 10:55 (1,644 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1048894 , Reply# 11   10/26/2019 at 13:59 (1,643 days old) by RP2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Refrigerators are the stand-out tragedy in this situation. It doesn't take a whole lot of special equipment or scientific knowledge to repair or restore a washer or dryer, but that's not the case with refrigerators.
Beautiful refrigerators in excellent shape are sent to the crusher every day because the average DIYer doesn't have the skills or tools to change out a compressor. Try getting any refrigerator repair person to replace a compressor -- on a professional level or as a side job -- and you'll get one or all of these three responses: 1) A quote in the 4-figure range, 2) No guarantee whatsoever, or 3) Crickets, usually in that order. So you end up with a fridge, pristine as it may be otherwise, that has been totaled.
Nobody without the ability to repair it wants a dead refrigerator, but parting one out more often than not wastes time and does more harm than good, usually resulting in valuable parts being broken because they weren't designed for easy disassembly. And so the whole thing gets sent away. Storing parts for some day that may never come just doesn't make sense. Most of us don't have that kind of room. |
Post# 1048899 , Reply# 12   10/26/2019 at 16:23 (1,643 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Steve Gyrafoam has it right. Many times I hear people lamenting about old machines, how someone "needs to save this", and "I wish it were mine", etc. But I've seen examples of the same people commenting on a Craigslist post "if it were only closer", when it's an hour away. How bad do they really want something? With a full time job, and other responsibilities, checking a newer machine out to see if and how it runs, tearing it apart, looking up part numbers, listing said part on eBay, hoping someone who can work on these machines gives me $40.00 for it, instead of going out and buying new, and if they do buy said part, boxing up, and shipping said item, ain't gonna happen. I'd have machines stacking up all over. Yes, Northern Indiana is where I live. Logistics is another problem for many, but again, how bad do you want something? I've had people from several states away stop by, and pick up machines. I've shipped a Maytag 806 washer to California. Others went to Missouri. I gave a late 40's Philco 'fridge to my cousin's neighbor, to make a smoker out of it. It killed me to do it, I could see the potential. But it was covered in rust, huge dent in the door, only 1 shelf inside, no freezer door, wiring was original and crispy, no idea if it worked, you get the picture. I guess that makes me the "hated scrapper".
I can live with that. |
Post# 1048901 , Reply# 13   10/26/2019 at 16:56 (1,643 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1048902 , Reply# 14   10/26/2019 at 16:57 (1,643 days old) by MaytagNeptune (FireAlarmTechGuy4444 on YouTube. Interlochen MI)   |   | |
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Post# 1048905 , Reply# 15   10/26/2019 at 17:43 (1,643 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)   |   | |
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I’ve got my fair share of machines and a couple I’d like to part with. I’ve avoided the scrapper so far. I was fortunate to land my dream machines early on so there haven’t been any others that I felt the need to drive many states away for, not that I’d be opposed to doing that for the right opportunity. I agree that being overwhelmed with too many certainly takes away the joy of having and using the good ones without feeling the burden of things to be done. Collecting, I’ve learned, takes lots of patience and time.
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Post# 1048911 , Reply# 16   10/26/2019 at 18:15 (1,643 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 1048990 , Reply# 17   10/27/2019 at 11:46 (1,643 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)   |   | |
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When cleaning out our family business, I had to choose what appliances to save, and which to dispose of. I am fortunate, in that I had the time to make reasonable choices. I did not have to empty out the building for a quick sale. I had time to decide what was worth saving. I lived next to the building, so whatever I wanted to save (or was undecided about saving), it involved just a short haul.
Of course, then I found this great group, and was able to find new homes for so much Blackstone material (appliances and parts). But not every machine could be saved. I made many trips to the junkyard with my Suburban. I also filled 2 roll-off dumpsters with scrap iron. Have I had any misgivings about getting rid of something? Perhaps. Those 2 new-in-box Blackstone dryers would be nice to stare at. The 350 that was our household washer (and which was rebuilt many times) would be a nice momento. As with everyone else, space is a finite quantity. As mentioned above, on the day after our funeral, someone will just be hauling away the remnants. Hopefully, when that day comes, the scrap iron price will be high. |
Post# 1049034 , Reply# 18   10/27/2019 at 17:42 (1,642 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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But recall several months ago there was an auction of a former member's vast collection. We're talking about a house and one or more storage areas (IIRC) full of things.
Barely one-quarter or one-third of collection sold to other members, collectors or anyone who would actually have use for things. General opinion one gathered from members who attended the auction is much if not all of considerable amount of remaining stock would be heading to knackers yard or be crushed. One cannot save everything; and even the most rare or desired things (in good condition) often have a very limited market. Mr. Lee Maxwell's collection is case in point; to best of my knowledge he has not found anyone willing to purchase, donate to or whatever it would take to preserve even a portion of that lot. Time is short given the good gentleman's age, thus one is afraid of what will happen should nothing pan out before Mr. Maxwell pegs out. Whenever Miele techs are called out, they shake their heads at why one is spending so much money on an "old" washer. They also do not understand why one has other old machines littered about. Defending one's habits by pointing out build quality and other points gets one but so far. If we are being honest with ourselves most of us hobbyists know much if not all of our collections will be rubbished before we are in the ground good. Over the years several members have liquidated or at least cut things down. Others have abandoned the group totally and what wasn't sold/donated/collected.... well you can guess the rest. Even when members have passed on and those charged with settling their estates have reached out to the group; often response isn't what was expected. Quite frankly we're talking about major appliances, and not everyone has a home or storage space the size of Tara. Shifting these large (and often heavy) machines across one or two states has become increasingly expensive. When a member passes on or someone is otherwise under the gun to clear a place out, time is often short. It really comes down to "come and get it before "X" date or it's going onto curb/will be hauled away". This post was last edited 10/27/2019 at 18:50 |
Post# 1049112 , Reply# 20   10/28/2019 at 05:57 (1,642 days old) by potatochips ( )   |   | |
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Hey @Launderess, whos collection here was being auctioned off? Its been a while since I browsed most of this forum.
Who else has tried to sell off all or part of their collection? |
Post# 1049116 , Reply# 22   10/28/2019 at 06:43 (1,642 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Yes, I believe you did go; recall reading about you and some other members made out at the auction.
@potatochips Here ya go; www.automaticwasher.org/c... |
Post# 1049146 , Reply# 24   10/28/2019 at 12:56 (1,641 days old) by kenmore58 (Rhode Island)   |   | |
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Just to add my two cents on this, the problem with this type of collecting (vintage appliances) is location and acquiring the machine. Several times, machines have been offered for sale on this site that I would like to add to my collection, but they're located so far away. And as we all know, a vintage washing machine doesn't fit in a small box or envelope!
I'm considering scaling my collection down, but I'm sure, living in Rhode Island, I won't have many interested collectors because there are not many in the area. Ron |
Post# 1049177 , Reply# 26   10/28/2019 at 17:01 (1,641 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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The "true value", for the most part, is what someone is willing to pay for it. You might think you're vintage washer is worth north of $500.00, but when trying to sell it, the only offer you get is $100.00, what is the value? When I still had a store, I could sell vintage washers and dryers to landlords. But very seldom got more than $100.00 for a set, and most times I didn't mess with selling them on the retail market. You have to offer a warranty, and you don't know how they will be used. Something breaks, and then what? |
Post# 1049231 , Reply# 28   10/29/2019 at 06:56 (1,641 days old) by potatochips ( )   |   | |
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Yeah Kenny, thats why I put quotes around true value. Its entirely subjective to the buyer. |
Post# 1049232 , Reply# 29   10/29/2019 at 07:02 (1,641 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)   |   | |
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I have been steadily downsizing throughout the years. The reality of space and far too many projects starts to take away the joy of the hobby. Add to that a grumpy husband and well, the writings on the wall. Most of my appliances went on to live in other homes, although a few, sadly, had to be scrapped. As it stands vintage wise, I have 1 washer, 2 refrigerators, 1 dryer, 1 stove, 1 dishwasher and assorted kitchen appliances. This is in addition to vintage radios, phonographs, irons, fans, telephones, Christmas decorations and the like. The strict philosophy now is, if it doesn't fit in the closet, I don't get it. |
Post# 1049234 , Reply# 30   10/29/2019 at 07:15 (1,641 days old) by potatochips ( )   |   | |
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Personally myself I am thinking about downsizing and just maintaining a small working collection. Use it for a year and sell it, find something else, do the same thing. |
Post# 1049237 , Reply# 31   10/29/2019 at 08:01 (1,641 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Well at least you can make a contract with somebody, over here in Europe- Italy is much more difficult.
Many of my recent machines came from a scrapyard or better say "city dump" or how they call it, ecologic-isle. Basically up until one year ago I could just go with my truck to the city dump and load in a hurry machines that I liked and needed to be saved, and the dump employees would just pretend not to see.. but now things are much more difficult because of new rulings. They in fact need to register whatever appliance enter the dump and fill a document as soon as it enters the dump, and it becomes a waste according to law. So now they did put gates to enter the dump that opens thanks to a magnetic card they re-new every year and give you if you show them you have paid city taxes for the garbage care. The fact is that the same is for shops, doesn't matter big box or family owned, as soon as they deliver the new appliance and withdraw the old one one they need to fill a form and it becomes a waste that will need to be treated as such, and when they go to the dump they pass this waste along. If they are caught transporting a washer or whatever appliance without this document they get in trouble. I actually went to speak with the dump manager explaining to him of my passion and trying to see if they would allow me to take washers or pieces, but no, he said that t now the only way I could do that is to have a licence to treat waste so they can invoice me even for free but they need to make an invoice to me because they need to fill documents for whatever enters in the dump and goes out, they just cannot get rid of waste like that or they get in trouble for improper waste disposal! Because city dump actually is a company itself. So guys this is the law! Yet they keep telling about ecology etc! Ha! they prefer a machine to get scrapped rather than saved, you cannot even take pieces from it and save another one. Truth be told 80% of what you see in the dumps actually is just two or three years old nowadays and rarely machines 15-20 years or older. Of course due to the fact that appliances today are just garbage themselves as you buy them new, but also many just ends there because of today's tendency of using liquid detergents and quick Cycles and low temperatures that build-up thick gunk layers of in the outer tub that rotten spiders that crumbles due to acidic fermentation YES FERMENTING WASHERS! The even more sad part of the story is that many Modern machines doesn't have on purpose a outer tub you can open in order to change the spider, seal or bearing but you have to buy the whole block outer tub spider and basket, that cost as much as a new one! Ha the ecology! 😂 |
Post# 1049244 , Reply# 32   10/29/2019 at 08:44 (1,641 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I am in many Facebook Groups about laundry
And every day comes out a gal asking for help, typical complaint is: " help why my washer stinks" or " how do I get my laundry to smell good because it doesn't it stinks". To be blamed of course it's always and only how you use your machine and how you do laundry. Typical housekeeper's laundry today means tossing whatever color in, put a pod or a cup of liquid, add a colour catcher sheet ( because nobody got time to divide colours- they have the sheets now God forgive!) choose a quick cycle Mix-30° or equivalent are the favourite and when very dirty of course an eco with reduced temps, they don't smell good? No problem! Just add a gallon of softener (which greasy components enhance the gunk build up in the machine) and if you really wanna make things great also use like a bucket of unstoppables or those new scent boosters (made and created just for that) and you are done, your laundry will smell good!!! 😂😂😂 And in a couple years : "Help my washer basket fell down doesn't turn" rotten crumbled spider...or "help my washer sounds like a jet during spin" ie: rotten seal, rotten and gone bearings! |
Post# 1049300 , Reply# 33   10/29/2019 at 17:33 (1,640 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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I could always sell newer machines, like you say, depending on what it is, for much more. I used to sell the cr@p out of GE FF's to landlords. They were dependable, for the most part, easy to repair, they loved' em. Those are the ones that I would get $100.00 for the set. Those and Maytags are pretty much the only vintage machines I would sell to the general public.
I have it pretty good WRT haulaways. I have to drive an hour each way, but I can buy 12-15 machines (fridges, laundry, ranges) from a dealer, who sells me what they don't go through themselves. He charges me $40.00 for a load. Usually half of them are worth fixing. Some give up parts for others, many just go on the truck to the scrapyard. |