Thread Number: 80974
/ Tag: Modern Dishwashers
Cascade Fryer Boil Out V. STPP Sodium Tripolyphosphate |
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Post# 1049718 , Reply# 1   11/2/2019 at 18:16 (1,608 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Fryer Boil Out has phosphates (assuming the formula hasn't changed since I last looked) so no need to add STPP to it ... unless perhaps your water is mineral-laden to the point the detergent alone can't handle it. Boil Out also has chlorine bleach, which STPP does not provide. Also keep in mind that the detergent is gone by end of the last rinse so there may be some spotting / mineral residue effects ... unless perhaps you add a smidgen of STPP to the final rinse but I don't think anyone around here is doing that. Rinse aid is the alternative for that. |
Post# 1049771 , Reply# 3   11/3/2019 at 11:32 (1,607 days old) by SudsMaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Deb,
Probably most here haven't done the research so we don't know the results you are asking for.
Perhaps you could do the research yourself?
Moi, my DW is clean enough using Finish. If I had to, I could run a cycle with just some STPP. I'd be reluctant to go out and purchase a product like Boil Out. And if Boil-Out has Chlorine bleach, I'd be even more reluctant, because it's my impression that Bosch doesn't recommend DW detergents that contain chlorine bleach. It is, after all, corrosive to stainless steel.
If you DW is clean with your current regimen, I wouldn't stress out over it.
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Post# 1049787 , Reply# 5   11/3/2019 at 14:54 (1,607 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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I always add a teaspoon of STPP to the the tub for the initial rinse and another teaspoon to the detergent cup, along with the detergent. My dishes always come out spotless. I would recommend that you stop rinsing and just scrape debris. Today's detergents are designed with enzymes which active when they come in contact with food proteins. Pre-rinsing doesn't allow the detergent to work as it is designed to do.
I have thought about buying some of the Cascade Fryer Boil Out but I still have a large tub of Costco detergent pods! |
Post# 1049790 , Reply# 6   11/3/2019 at 15:20 (1,607 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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I have been using Institutional / Boil Out for 8 years. It does a much better job on tomato and tea stains than enzyme formulations. The only soil I've specifically noticed it doesn't handle is dried egg residue (microwave scrambled in a coffee mug). Enzymes are better for egg. STPP is not intended to be used as a detergent by itself ... but added to your choice of detergent. |
Post# 1049923 , Reply# 9   11/4/2019 at 14:59 (1,606 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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With the institutional Cascade/Fryer Boil Out.
If you have an older machine that reaches the higher wash temperatures (140-160F), it will work well. If you have a newer machine (105-120F), it may not give you great results.
My older Maytag Jet clean machine gave great results, as it reached higher wash temperature, my newer Kitchenaid leaves a white film on the dishes. It actually does better with the Cascade Platinum.
Will be interested to see what your results are, as they do certainly vary. |
Post# 1060028 , Reply# 10   2/8/2020 at 21:48 (1,510 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 1060034 , Reply# 11   2/8/2020 at 22:50 (1,510 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 1060042 , Reply# 12   2/9/2020 at 00:24 (1,510 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Your mileage will vary based on the type of dishwasher you have.
Any newer household Dishwasher will work best with an enzyme based detergent. The longer cycles and lower wash temps are designed for them. If the water is hard some STPP will help. For vintage DWs and Commercial Dishmachines enzyme based detergents should not be used. The cycles are not nearly long enough and the water too hot for enzyme detergents to work. This is especially true in commercial settings where dishmachine wash times run from 6 to 40 seconds with blasting 150F spray. WK78 |
Post# 1060047 , Reply# 13   2/9/2020 at 03:38 (1,509 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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