Powder detergents containing oxi-peroxide list.

Yeah I know about powders disappearing from stores...it apparently it's a first-world thing and recently I've read many articles explaining the reason why, mostly to do with misinformation of commercials and companies wanting you to buy liquods instead and now pods which are even more profitable to makers than even liquids were and tendency to always lower temperature washing habits.
Said that, to my knowledge until some years ago you actually had a fair share of brands containing percarbonate in the formula in the US.
I have learned that there are and could be more activators than just nobs and taed implemented, and actually in the past there were detergents using these kinds of bleaches and activators.
In my stash I still have several American detergents with percarbonate, say All, Surf from SunCorp and others medium range or premium low price and activators.

Also medium range products from Procter & Gamble like gain or era powder used to have the dear thing but now not anymore, and I actually got a response from the gain Facebook page when I inquired for such a change and the response I got was other than being so fake kinda "suck-uppishy" a complete tease other than techically-chemically non-sense which simply makes me willing to slap someone in the face so hard to make it look like a balloon.
Msds sheets from C&D about Arm & Hammer
powder mention it containing percarbonate though I actually opened a recent box and I found it very different than the previous box I had.
Took off even from that one?
Surfing through the web one can find lists of patents and ingredient lists of detergents and activators dsting back in the days even from now dead companies like Boyle Midway.
Said that one can find TAED activators in products such as OxiClean and various additives, so activators are not a p&g thing only. Nobs which is the most effective in cold water is but not all the others.
I also read that in the past other kinds of activators were experimented.
Said that I believe that is merely a marketing maneuvre to shift people to liquids and pods which cost more per load and are more profitable for makers and also because that way they want you to buy more products to add because detergent alone won't be enough, stuff that otherwise they would not sell.
Again the response that I received from the gain people just make me want to smash their head on to a wall. Are the kind of things getting me mad.
How cannot consumers get mad at that? Being teased? Demand better?

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Post# 1049901 11/4/2019 at 11:18 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)
Checkrate/Likes I kindly ask automaticwasher.org members to help me making a list of powder detergents still containing percarbonate aka carbonate peroxide aka oxygen color safe bleach in the United States. Many detergents used to in the past as a default formula, now for some you get oxi versions, but now are decreasing at an alarming rate, pretty much powder offering is decreasing itself and we all know that, but what's offered is also downgrading to basic surfactant formulas with few enzymes and no oxi. This is also to turn people using liquids, more profitable for makers but not consumers. I'd like to build an updated list as of 2019 of what still contains peroxide. Thanks in advance

Post# 1049920 , Reply# 1 11/4/2019 at 14:49 (1,634 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There�s a Lady on Stage)
Checkrate/Likes There isn't much of a list to make, at least here in USA. Of TOL offerings Tide (thanks to P&G's lock down on bleach activator patents), is the only powder detergent with oxygen bleaching system. And even that is hard to find these days as many places don't stock powdered detergent period. Of the lower tier brands Seventh Generation, Bio-Kleen and some other powders do contain oxygen bleach, but they aren't in wide distribution IMHO. Many stores locally carry Seventh Generation liquid detergents, but powder is scarce.

Post# 1049935 , Reply# 2 11/4/2019 at 15:45 (1,634 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)
Checkrate/Likes Yeah I know about powders disappearing from stores...it apparently it's a first-world thing and recently I've read many articles explaining the reason why, mostly to do with misinformation of commercials and companies wanting you to buy liquods instead and now pods which are even more profitable to makers than even liquids were and tendency to always lower temperature washing habits. Said that, to my knowledge until some years ago you actually had a fair share of brands containing percarbonate in the formula in the US. I have learned that there are and could be more activators than just nobs and taed implemented, and actually in the past there were detergents using these kinds of bleaches and activators. In my stash I still have several American detergents with percarbonate, say All, Surf from SunCorp and others medium range or premium low price and activators. Also medium range products from Procter & Gamble like gain or era powder used to have the dear thing but now not anymore, and I actually got a response from the gain Facebook page when I inquired for such a change and the response I got was other than being so fake kinda "suck-uppishy" a complete tease other than techically-chemically non-sense which simply makes me willing to slap someone in the face so hard to make it look like a balloon. Msds sheets from C&D about Arm & Hammer powder mention it containing percarbonate though I actually opened a recent box and I found it very different than the previous box I had. Took off even from that one? Surfing through the web one can find lists of patents and ingredient lists of detergents and activators dsting back in the days even from now dead companies like Boyle Midway. Said that one can find TAED activators in products such as OxiClean and various additives, so activators are not a p&g thing only. Nobs which is the most effective in cold water is but not all the others. I also read that in the past other kinds of activators were experimented. Said that I believe that is merely a marketing maneuvre to shift people to liquids and pods which cost more per load and are more profitable for makers and also because that way they want you to buy more products to add because detergent alone won't be enough, stuff that otherwise they would not sell. Again the response that I received from the gain people just make me want to smash their head on to a wall. Are the kind of things getting me mad. How cannot consumers get mad at that? Being teased? Demand better? View Full Size

Post# 1050102 , Reply# 3 11/6/2019 at 15:34 (1,632 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)
Checkrate/Likes 1 That says it all. P&G removed the bleaching agents, in order that their manufactured stenches last much longer. Basically, the bleach was ruining their synthetic smells. So - in a nutshell - P&G want folk to have a less clean wash, but to reek of foul stuff. (They did that to standard UK DAZ powder too).