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Post# 1050558   11/10/2019 at 17:01 (1,572 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        

I have a new gas dryer and finding it taking anywhere from 20 - 30 minutes longer to dry a load of clothes. It's the first gas dryer for me, and its firing and venting good and the lint screen is not full.
Anyone finding a newer dryer gas or electric taking longer to dry clothes?





Post# 1050571 , Reply# 1   11/10/2019 at 18:42 (1,572 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I've conjectured with another person about 4-6 months ago with the same dilemma.  I hypothesized that new dryers have had temperatures reduced for the various "labels" of ex low, low, med, & hi.  I said it wouldn't surprise me that Sanitize is now what high used to be, high is what medium used to be, medium is what used to be delicate, low is what ex low used to be and ex low is even lower.  His reply was once he adjusted temp settings to correspond with my logic, that his new dryer dried about as fast as his preivous one.  


Post# 1050628 , Reply# 2   11/11/2019 at 03:36 (1,571 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Interesting

Sounds like the final piece of the puzzle. When I put it on sanitize it shows 110 minutes on sensor dry and on time dry defaults to 75 min and shows 111 to dry on the dial.
I'm not liking these longer cycles, it took 90 minutes on high on timed heat to dry a small load of towels. At 60 minutes it was damp when the dryer finished, so another 30 to complete.
Tks Appnut


Post# 1050629 , Reply# 3   11/11/2019 at 03:52 (1,571 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Try the sanitize... it will start with an absurd time, after 10 minutes it will jump to less than half of the time.

Sanitize is definitely the old "high"

High is "medium low"
Medium is "extra low"
Low is "Brrr i'm cold"
Extra low is "It will soon start snowing in the drum but who cares? D.O.E. loves me"


Post# 1050660 , Reply# 4   11/11/2019 at 09:44 (1,571 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Tried Sanitize

No better it went to 115 minutes, you could go to Mars and back waiting on this machine.
Tks for the help.
Its probably machine I checked online it had a slow drying cycle review, it should say really slow.


Post# 1050662 , Reply# 5   11/11/2019 at 09:52 (1,571 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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What is the brand and model of this dryer?


Post# 1050663 , Reply# 6   11/11/2019 at 09:58 (1,571 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Model

Hi Appnut
Its an electrolux efmg627uiw maybe it was given wrong number and first 4 letters s/b crap.


Post# 1050746 , Reply# 7   11/11/2019 at 19:32 (1,571 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I think I can help you here since I also have an Electrolux gas dryer...the 527 which is the next step down from your 627. First of all check to see if your Eco option is selected. If it is, deselect it. That will shorten drying times and will make the dryer cycles fly. 2nd, make sure you have adequate make up air when you use the dryer. I always open a window and let the dryer pull the air from there.
That Eco option is designed to have the dryer burner cycle more yet gives a lower temp for the setting you select. It make the dryer take much longer to dry a load.


Post# 1050829 , Reply# 8   11/12/2019 at 15:48 (1,570 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

I have the Electrolux dryer, and it takes longer than my previous model. For one thing, it doesn't seem to use as hot of air on the normal cycle as the other drier did, nor the amount of air to push through the clothes. I have gotten used to it by now, but no it is not as fast. To get hotter air you have to use a cycle that will allow a hotter temperature, and even then the time will increase even more.

As I said I am used to it by now, plus I have a washer that has longer wash segments than my previous one so it all equals out.


Post# 1050830 , Reply# 9   11/12/2019 at 16:05 (1,570 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
I have a Samsung....

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Good call on the Eco button....many of the cycles on my Samsung default to the Eco option and I deselect it all the time.  I'll never understand why 2 hours at barely warm is more energy efficient than 30 minutes at a higher temperature.  


Post# 1050833 , Reply# 10   11/12/2019 at 16:19 (1,570 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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One thing that I noticed about my Electrolux dryer is that the lint filter has a much tighter and finer filter screen. I do use dryer sheets and the wax was starting to build up on the filter surfaces and making the dryer a little slower. I took the filter out and washed it in very warm soapy water and the dryer was back to normal. This dryer does pull about 200 cfms so it’s no slouch in the airflow dept. If one has a long vent situation, that will slow it some. My vent is a short 4 ft total from dryer to vent hood.

Post# 1050836 , Reply# 11   11/12/2019 at 16:41 (1,570 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Thanks Everyone

There is a new vent about 8ft max,
and new vent cover nothing being blocked and eco was deselected since first time I used it. I'm not impressed with it, the washer works great but the dryer just won't heat up the way it should. I put it on fast dry and it was not hot after 5 minutes, it only has 15 minutes to dry, it's a joke.There's more hot air in parliament since the election than this machine, from my experience, its a dud.
Anyone else reading this have a better dryer to recommend because this needs to be returned.
Tks


Post# 1050837 , Reply# 12   11/12/2019 at 16:54 (1,570 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I wonder if your burner is not adjusted properly. Keep in mind that your fuel source may have something to do with too. If you are using natural gas , the burner will put out 20k btus, if it’s propane then the output is less at 17k or so. If you have 240v available in your laundry area, I would get the electric version.

Post# 1050842 , Reply# 13   11/12/2019 at 18:52 (1,570 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Here is another thought I just had....are you using the matching washer and if you are, what are you using for spin speeds? I use High spin speed and the dryer, depending on the load will take 55.mins or less to dry the load. Most loads I just use the Normal cycle with Normal temp and Normal dryness. Never an issue with that cycle. If I use the Heavy/Towels cycle I have to use the High dryness setting to ensure that the load is fully dry.

Post# 1050843 , Reply# 14   11/12/2019 at 18:58 (1,570 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Sanitize

If you run a sanitize cycle it will naturally over dry the load by quite a bit. That is why it is requiring such a long amount of time. Heavy Duty would be a better choice, but still will take a while. My newer Duet takes longer than the Kenmore it replaced, but actually does run warmer believe it or not.

Post# 1050849 , Reply# 15   11/12/2019 at 21:00 (1,570 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Slow Gas Dryer

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If you like make sure it is working properly, if it was converted to propane it will put out the same 20,000 BTUs if it was done properly [ often when gas ranges are converted to LP they derate the burners because the burners cannot withstand the higher burning temperature of LP gas, there is no such problem on a gas dryer ]

 

If you can return it you will likely be better off in the long run, we are seeing a lot of problems with newer electrolux washers and dryers, while the washers seem to perform well the dryers are only so-so and both are troublesome.

 

Best gas dryers would be the simpler WPs and MTs, Speed Queen also builds very fast and reliable gas and electric dryers but they don't have all the bells and whistles, but they get the job done and will last the average user over 30 years easily.

 

John L.


Post# 1050856 , Reply# 16   11/12/2019 at 23:44 (1,570 days old) by elfridaauston87 (OAKLAND GARDENS)        

No dear I dont have and really I dont have any idea about it.

Post# 1050863 , Reply# 17   11/13/2019 at 04:44 (1,569 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Cycles & Models

I really like the steam option on this dryer, it's great on the Refresh cycle for dress pants, comforters, etc.
As for a simpler model I guess I'm looking at one without steam, so it would be a more middle of the road model, any suggestions Combo52?
I do have the matching washer, and now getting nervous after hearing that review on these machines.
I use the Heavy cycle and Max spin speed for towels,I find it cleans better than the LG I had last. Nmassman44,if I put the dryer on your setting of Normal, Normal, Normal it finishes damp, it never finishes dry, if I put it on Normal, High & High it'll run even longer and not be completely dry, like the bands on t-shirts for example. If I use the Heavy/Towels on high heat and dryness it starts at 75 and then could go from 95 +, and it not a big honk'n load either. At this rate I'll have nothing left to wear by spring, I'll be bare ass to the weather, and no linen left to sleep or shower with. I have a service call on it, it's under warranty, if it doesn't get fixed it has to go, winter is in the background and lugging to a laundromat is not in my future :) .


Post# 1050871 , Reply# 18   11/13/2019 at 08:38 (1,569 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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There has to be something wrong then with your dryer because mine doesn’t behave like that. Before you throw in the towel and get a new dryer, see what the tech says and go from there.

Post# 1050879 , Reply# 19   11/13/2019 at 10:48 (1,569 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Thanks nmassman44

Logic tells me if the gas version is doing this, stay away from the electric one, if it can't be fixed, hopefully it can be returned,I'll go to a more moderate version of something else.
Appreciate your help here, I'm beginning to think it's a design flaw with the way the clothes move in the machine, it seems to be around the door more, landing and circling on and off the vent for the lint trap.I did call Electrolux, they said the load was too small, but it isn't, it's the dryer!
Maybe the one who designed the machine needs a good boot in the wazoo, either way it's not working well at this point.


Post# 1050893 , Reply# 20   11/13/2019 at 15:29 (1,569 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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One thing that my 527 dryer has that the 627 dryer doesn’t have, or at least the ones I have seen around here is this variator vane. It keeps the load moving around the drum and doesn’t allow for balling up sheets or tangling. It also keeps stuff from collecting in the door opening. My dryer has the same drying sensor system...Predicitve Dry and it performs quite well with my model. If you decide to swap out dryers, look into the 527.... here is a pic of said vane

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Post# 1050894 , Reply# 21   11/13/2019 at 15:30 (1,569 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Here is a pic of what the other two vanes look like...

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Post# 1050896 , Reply# 22   11/13/2019 at 15:55 (1,569 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        
Energy Star Rated

The 527 and 627 Electrolux dryers are Energy Star Rated. In other words, they meet the energy requirements set by governments. It is likely that the dryers are made to use a lower heat so that they can meet the energy requirements. All new dryers are now Energy Star Rated so you may find that any new dryer will act the same way or worse.

Post# 1050899 , Reply# 23   11/13/2019 at 16:11 (1,569 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
My Samsung..

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I also have the steam cycle and I like it to refresh things that are wrinkled.  I'd hate to give that up.  I will say, on mine, most of the preprogrammed cycles take way too long and leave the clothes still a little damp like the t shirts bands you mention.

 

I've just learned that when I use the manual settings it seems to get warmer and the moisture control works much better meaning the clothes are dry when its finished.  

 

Mine is electric BTW.


Post# 1050904 , Reply# 24   11/13/2019 at 17:04 (1,569 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Variator Vane

Yup I have the same it works great with a comforter, and most loads, unless it's smaller, I add a large beach towel. It'll keep things moving, but clothes do keep landing on & off the door vent.
From what I've heard the burner may not be firing to full capacity or the high limit switch is gone giggly.
So after about ten minutes the machine is running and you open the door can you feel hot or warm air, on mine its very
gentle heat nothing near hot?
Here's my drum the dryer is white not that odd glare color.


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Post# 1050930 , Reply# 25   11/13/2019 at 20:55 (1,569 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Now that is interesting since here in the US that model has a stainless steel drum and does not have the variator baffle. I wonder if the Canadian model is a different animal all together.

Post# 1050955 , Reply# 26   11/14/2019 at 02:38 (1,569 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Made in USA



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Post# 1050959 , Reply# 27   11/14/2019 at 03:03 (1,569 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

So, if it's converted to LP and running on LP, is it running on bottled LP?

If so, if I know anything, there should be a pressure regulator in line, right?
Maybe that has gone wonky or is somehow limiting gas flow to much?
Or the dryer hasn't been converted\adjusted enough in some way?


If anything, get a technician to check it out or return it, these machines should still be done in an hour.



Question is though if the predictive dry estimates 95+ min straight away or if it just takes that long.

Former would point more towards spinning issues or (not sure on where this is set up or if that system even checks for that) verry cold laundry or intake air.


Post# 1051245 , Reply# 28   11/16/2019 at 11:14 (1,566 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
LG dryer normal cycle temperature

I too have noticed this on my LG dryer and my Kenmore elite dryer built by the same people. On my previous GE, the normal cycle had high heat. I had the matching electric set. I disable the energy saver option on my Kenmore elite model. Makes no sense why the normal cycle uses medium heat. Casuals/permanent press uses low heat, delicate uses low, and ultra delicate uses extra low. I don't know where they were going with the idea of normal cycle using medium heat. The normal cycle with energy saver disabled takes 41 minutes.

Post# 1051440 , Reply# 29   11/17/2019 at 21:22 (1,565 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Look a bit further to the left on the tag and it will say Made in Mexico. These dryers are not made here in the USA, I wish that they were though. And the pic of your dryer drum looks a bit like stainless steel to my eyes. With my 527's drum there is no doubt that its white.
That said I am wondering if when they converted your dryer for LP gas use what they actually did to it. That tag just says the control was converted, but what about the burner orafice and pressure regulator?


Post# 1051444 , Reply# 30   11/17/2019 at 21:59 (1,565 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Last new dryer I bought was done in 2004.  Its target temps are 149°F, 140°F, & 127°F.  No issues with drying speed or moisture sensor performance.


Post# 1051511 , Reply# 31   11/18/2019 at 13:49 (1,564 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
Found something

Nothing from the tech guy yet still waiting to hear from him / her, I may have a wonky propane line or as suggested a burner conversion problem.

I did find this on the internet from Energy Star Market & Industry Report as follows;
“Eco-Mode” options or other similar settings can save energy by reducing power output while lengthening the drying process and/or stopping the dryer before clothes are completely dry. Such settings may also incorporate a variable heat source. One manufacturer has noted a 40% dryer energy savings from using this energy efficient mode or cycle. However, recent testing by Ecova (formally Ecos Consulting) on behalf of NRDC, found that “eco modes” on two dryer models provided no energy savings if clothes are dried to a similar level of dryness reached in other modes.48 Ecova suggested a truly energy-saving “eco-mode” could be accomplished by modulating the heater power and fan speed.
A lower heat setting can also improve energy efficiency and reduce energy consumption, since less energy use used to heat air, cloth and metal. For example, Ecova testing for NRDC found a 13% difference in energy consumption between the highest and lowest heat settings for one clothes dryer model tested when drying the same load, at the expense of a 14-minute increase in drying time.

So as Jerrod6 replied about Energy Star Dryers and the 527 & 627 are rated as Star, it may explain why it takes longer to dry, it's the make -up of the machine and where they are going with appliances.

Yes the drum in my dryer is stainless. It's too bad they don't tell us this when buying new appliances, I'm beginning to believe it's more product ignorance on the supplier's part, or maybe as a consumer we need to ask more specific questions.


Post# 1051517 , Reply# 32   11/18/2019 at 14:31 (1,564 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        
Electrolux 400, 500 and 600 dryers

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Reviewed.com measured temps roughly from 120 to 135F on the Normal cycle - presumably with Eco engaged.

Post# 1051518 , Reply# 33   11/18/2019 at 14:49 (1,564 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
No energy savings if dried to a simmilar degree

Presumably that were timer based dryers with seperate temp selectors.
Those just dry shorter.

Just lowering temp will always save energy in a dryer.
At some point, tumble drying just becomes fancy hang drying, you know.

There was a UK only vented tumble dryer that had an Eco mode as efficent as the heatpump dryers of the time for a fraction of the cost.
Cycles took 8h and just used cold air.



On that note many dryers over here drasticly cut dryness when efficency suddenly became super important.
To the dispair of most consumers.

Now things start to recover and most Eco modes are close enough to dry to be considered a drying cycle and most manufacturers offering something between not quite dry enough and overdried.

What we have now is most dryers going to inverter motors as they usually save a couple dozen watts which is enough to be significant with our dryers.




Though what is honestly the real shame: We had dryers that could dry a 14lbs load from a spin result verry much comparable to todays US FLs to honestly dry in about 90min with less than 1.75kWh of energy about a decade ago.

For the price of some US vented dryers.

Now your vented dryers take just as long and probably use still more energy while costing probably the same.


Post# 1051574 , Reply# 34   11/18/2019 at 20:44 (1,564 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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“Now your vented dryers take just as long and probably use still more energy while costing probably the same.“

#America


Post# 1051704 , Reply# 35   11/20/2019 at 07:22 (1,562 days old) by easy (Boston, Mass)        
dry time

I have a LG 3500 dryer and do not find the drying times to be long at all. If I wash a load using the towels cycle (1300 rpm spin), I was the towels cycle on the dryer. For some reason it selects medium temperature and initially displays 58
minutes for the dry time. I usually select one level above regular dryness level.

I've gone back to the dryer after 40 minutes and found it has completed the cycle. All items were perfectly dry.



Post# 1051710 , Reply# 36   11/20/2019 at 09:19 (1,562 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
All new North American Dryers Are NOT Energy-Star

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And in general there has been NO increase in dryers running time, in fact many customers often tell how much faster there new dryers seem to be.

The only new dryers I have had long drying complaints on are WPs 27" hybrid Heat-Pump models, and of course all the little Miele and Bosch dryers-etc.

John L.



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