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Polit light will not stay lit after letting up the red lever on a Maytag DG606
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Post# 1057018   1/9/2020 at 13:18 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

I love the forum. I am a newbie so if I am missing something feel free to tell me.
Working on a Maytag dryer DG606 from 1983
I can light the pilot light very good when holding the red lever down. I hold it down for a minute or two then let it up. The pilot light will not stay lit. I cleaned the themocouple and the pilot hole is clear. I am thinking it is the thermocouple or the gas valve. Where can a person buy these parts new or used?


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Post# 1057020 , Reply# 1   1/9/2020 at 13:44 by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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Themocouples are readily available at hardware stores or home improvement centers.   They're usually found on hanging cards in the plumbing/heating department. 

 

It sounds like the thermocouple is the culprit.  Bring the old one with you to compare with what the store carries.


Post# 1057029 , Reply# 2   1/9/2020 at 14:10 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        
thermocouple

Here is what the thermocouple looks like. I don't know if the ones in the hardware store will work?

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Post# 1057041 , Reply# 3   1/9/2020 at 16:11 by RP2813 (Sannazay)        

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OK, we'll need to wait for the SMEs to check in.  Thermocouples I'm familiar with have a lead with two spade connectors.  The arrangement on that valve is something I've never seen or dealt with before.  If it's some sort of proprietary Maytag thing, you may have trouble locating a replacement, but let's wait for others to reply here.


Post# 1057059 , Reply# 4   1/9/2020 at 18:27 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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I have the a Maytag DG606 that was converted to a Maytag DG306 timed drying dryer and itís been in daily use since June of 2019. Thankfully everything works on the burner and havenít had any issues with the pilot staying lit on mine.

Hereís the pilot light instructions on the small access panel


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Post# 1057060 , Reply# 5   1/9/2020 at 18:29 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Even have a video showing the burner turning on, on my Maytag DG306

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Post# 1057139 , Reply# 6   1/10/2020 at 12:09 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

It is a bad thermocouple. Here is a picture of it. Now the job is finding it. That is where you guys come in.

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Post# 1057145 , Reply# 7   1/10/2020 at 13:12 by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

Whatís the serial number for this dryer? Pretty sure it was built before 1975.

Post# 1057149 , Reply# 8   1/10/2020 at 14:11 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

574369 WF

I thought I saw a date of 1983 could that be true?


Post# 1057152 , Reply# 9   1/10/2020 at 15:17 by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

Your dryer was manufactured in March 1975, so it was one of the last of this style built. They were called halo of heat dryers. The ones made after this had a completely different design and were called stream of heat dryers.

Post# 1057153 , Reply# 10   1/10/2020 at 15:26 by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

Here is the part you are looking for. If you are not familiar with the workings of a gas appliance, I would recommend you having someone who is install this part. Even a tiny gas leak could cause a fire, explosion, or worse. On a lighter note I hope this info helps and you are able to get your 45 year old Maytag back into service.

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Post# 1057161 , Reply# 11   1/10/2020 at 16:26 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Thank You I will give that part a try.

Post# 1057182 , Reply# 12   1/10/2020 at 20:37 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Bad Dryer pilot Safety

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This part is not a thermocouple, you can not find them at hardware stores or plumbing supply houses.

 

It is instead a pilot safety, it has Mercury in it, the pilots heat makes the mercury expand and apply pressure on the round bellow end and this holds the gas valve open as long as the pilot stays lit, if the pilot goes out this safety will close the gas valve within 15 seconds.

 

The one pictured on Ebay is not exactly the same, but you can probably drill out the rivets and use it on your dryer.

 

These are fairly easy to install and you are unlikely to cause any gas leaks etc doing so, just check your work with a soap bubble solution if you have any concerns.

 

Also follow the instructions for adjusting the new safety, after you get it all working be sure to test the adjustment by blowing out the pilot and gas flow to the pilot and main burner should stop in 15 seconds or so.

 

John L.


Post# 1057287 , Reply# 13   1/11/2020 at 19:21 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Thank You combo52

Post# 1057567 , Reply# 14   1/14/2020 at 14:23 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Thanks Repairguy for the link to the part got it on now and it works. Is the pilot light the right size? It is about 1/4 inch higher than the box it sits in and goes out to the end of the pilot safety. One new question is the deal on the right side of the gas line the pilot adjuster? It looks like it takes a six sided tool?

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Post# 1057587 , Reply# 15   1/14/2020 at 17:03 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
pilot size?

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The Steel plug screwed into the valve body is a test point to test the gas pressure in the valve after the pressure regulator, I have never used one.

The pilot flame size is not adjustable, the tiny pilot orifice regulates the pilot gas flow, if the pilot is too large you might have to replace this part, are you operating this dryer on Natural or propane gas ?

John L.


Post# 1057598 , Reply# 16   1/14/2020 at 18:02 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Natural Gas

Post# 1057601 , Reply# 17   1/14/2020 at 18:37 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

I think it looks good here is some video
i.imgur.com/Xf5P2vd.mp4...
i.imgur.com/Prl0AcW.mp4...


Post# 1057614 , Reply# 18   1/14/2020 at 21:22 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Pilot Size

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That does look about right, A pilot on a gas dryer like will burn $3-6 dollars of gas a month and about twice that dollar amount if you have propane.

 

If you only do laundry once a week or so you are wise to turn off the gas between laundry days, both to save money and to save the damage to many dryer components that the moisture and other combustion products that the constant burning pilot causes.

 

John L.


Post# 1057616 , Reply# 19   1/14/2020 at 21:32 by Repairguy (Danbury, Texas)        

Congrats on getting your vintage Maytag dryer operating again.

Post# 1057656 , Reply# 20   1/15/2020 at 12:25 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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One thing AW user QSD-DAN pointed out to me is the constant burning pilot lights tend to weaken the high limit thermostats and will cause the burner to cycle below the cycling thermostat. Not sure if that happened to all gas HOH dryers but mine tends to cycle the burner below the cycling thermostat at times but it doesnít really do it when I dry smaller loads in my Maytag DG306

Post# 1057900 , Reply# 21   1/17/2020 at 12:05 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

I put a load of clothes in the dryer turned it on. It ran for an hour. I opened it up the clothes never moved. Took the back off. The drum is froze it will not move. I ever tried to move it by hand but it would not. I need your guys help with this as a newbie.

Post# 1057914 , Reply# 22   1/17/2020 at 14:24 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Uh oh, if the drum is frozen thatís not good! Needs oil ASAP! When oiled properly, the drum should turn effortlessly, and I added over 150 drops of oil to my Maytag DG306 last time I had it apart. 150 drops of oil is overkill, but Iíd rather it have too much oil than not enough oil at all

Post# 1057915 , Reply# 23   1/17/2020 at 14:25 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Paging QSD-DAN! Paging QSD-DAN!

Post# 1057924 , Reply# 24   1/17/2020 at 15:07 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Maytag85 can you show me where to add the oil and what kind of oil?

Post# 1057927 , Reply# 25   1/17/2020 at 16:00 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Most people on here recommend turbine oil such as Zoom Spout, but I use Shell motor oil to oil my Maytag DG306 bearing and have no issues what so ever with the 15W-40 Shell oil

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Post# 1057928 , Reply# 26   1/17/2020 at 16:11 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Hereís a thread showing the drum bearing of a Maytag DE806, and the DG606 is basically the same dryer minus the back lit panel. Make sure to not let the carbon brush fly away, and hold down the carbon brush assembly while removing the bolt that holds it down to the back of drum where it rides along the slip ring

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Post# 1057937 , Reply# 27   1/17/2020 at 17:00 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Thank You Maytag85 Now I am thinking how is a newbie going to do this?

Post# 1057938 , Reply# 28   1/17/2020 at 17:02 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

I wonder if it is frozen is it shot or will the oil bring it back to life?

Post# 1057949 , Reply# 29   1/17/2020 at 17:37 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Iíd give it a try to bring it back to life. These Maytag Halo Of Heat dryers can be tricky but are worth bringing back to life since theyíll just about outlast most dryer made today, and are quieter than most of the dryer made today. You will have to take the entire dryer apart to oil the bearing, and you will have to oil the blower/fan since theyíll make a racket when they arenít oiled.

While everything is apart Iíd paint the base and clean up everything as much as possible before putting it back together, and make sure the outer felt seal is in good condition.

If the outer felt seal becomes compromised the blower/fan wonít pull the flame through the burner and the high limit thermostat will kick the burner off until it cools down. Belt tension also can cause the burner to turn off because there isnít enough air flow through the burner.

Hereís my Maytag A606 and DG306 I use as my daily use machines and havenít had any issues with them since I put them into service last summer


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Post# 1057964 , Reply# 30   1/17/2020 at 19:18 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Paging QSD-DAN! Paging QSD-DAN!
Will the oil unfreeze the bearing.


Post# 1057967 , Reply# 31   1/17/2020 at 19:37 by LowEfficiency (Iowa)        

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>> I put a load of clothes in the dryer turned it on. It ran for an hour. I opened it up the clothes never moved.
>> Took the back off. The drum is froze it will not move. I ever tried to move it by hand but it would not.
>> I need your guys help with this as a newbie.

First things first, something I learned the hard way when restoring my DE806, is that the Halo-of-Heat dryer cabinet relies on the rear panel for holding the cabinet square. If you attempt to run one of these dryers with the back off, the cabinet flexes enough to contact the side of the drum. In my case, it made an absolutely terrible noise. I'm not sure if that misalignment could make it bind enough to not turn by hand, but it certainly wouldn't help.

You say it ran for an hour but the clothes didn't move? If the motor was running, then at least one of the belts would have to be slipping over a stuck pulley, or a pulley spinning against a stuck belt. It would have made a noise or smell for sure.

... Or did the motor not turn? is your drum free, but a frozen motor holding it still?



Post# 1057970 , Reply# 32   1/17/2020 at 20:27 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Non Tumbling HOH Dryer

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Hi Robert, you just need to take the back off and see what is not turning, it is a pretty simple system.

 

The blower bearing could be tight, the main shaft could be tight, the best oil for either of these items would be light machine oil, multi weight motor probably would work but a lighter non-detergent machine oil is preferred.

 

When you move this dryer away from the wall position the dryer where you want to work on it and run it. If it is not sitting level before you remove the back panel put a shim under a leveling foot so the machine is sitting on all four feet [ it does not have to be level ] this way the drum will not be out of alignment and you can run the dryer with the back off.

 

Let us know what you find.

 

Are you fixing this dryer because you have the matching washer or are you just sentimental about this dryer ?

 

There are much better performing, safer and more reliable vintage gas dryers out there if you are just into great vintage appliances.

 

John L.


Post# 1057983 , Reply# 33   1/17/2020 at 22:14 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

One of the belts was moving slower. One was stuck still. Both belts had some damage from the one hour. They were old so no big loss. The back was on when I ran the machine. I can turn the motor by hand with no problem. The heat was blowing to the outside so I think the blower was working. The drum did not ever move. I am guessing the drum bearing needs oil. Our family has owned the dryer for 30 years bought it used no one ever oiled it.

Post# 1057984 , Reply# 34   1/17/2020 at 22:20 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

I thought fixing it would be cheaper than a new dryer. I thought it would be easier. The flet is loose also maybe a half inch is that a problem?

Post# 1058390 , Reply# 35   1/22/2020 at 14:14 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Got the main bearing off and oiled. But I have a few question what should be between picture one and two? An o ring or flat washer? I think it is missing something but I am not sure? How do you repair the felt in picture three?

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Post# 1058391 , Reply# 36   1/22/2020 at 14:16 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Picture on is the back of the blower fan.

Post# 1058420 , Reply# 37   1/22/2020 at 18:22 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Missing Part

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There is normally a white nylon spacer on the drum shaft before the blower goes on.

 

The small gap in the front felt is not bg enough to cause any problem, there is supposed to be a 1" wide tension felt band around the wide one you pictured to hold the wide felt against the rotating drum.

 

What was sized, the drum bearings or the blower bearings ?

 

John L.


Post# 1058438 , Reply# 38   1/22/2020 at 20:15 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

The the drum bearings were sized. The felt is not on that metal part for about 8 inches how do you fix that? Will high temperature adhesive work for the felt to the metal?
How thick is that white nylon spacer?


Post# 1058443 , Reply# 39   1/22/2020 at 21:00 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

How about trying some J-B WELD epoxy to stick in on? It is rated to 600 degrees.

Post# 1058492 , Reply# 40   1/23/2020 at 07:52 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Anybody know?

Post# 1058511 , Reply# 41   1/23/2020 at 11:35 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

I have a white nylon spacer like this one the front of the blower fan should there be one on the back also?

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Post# 1058535 , Reply# 42   1/23/2020 at 15:34 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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The felt will definitely need to be replaced eventually. When the felt seal is compromised, it wonít allow for the burner to stay on for very long and will kick off the burner. You can make a new felt feel for it out of new felt, and one thing I did was is I used steel wire to basically make new staples to hold the felt onto the shroud, and so far itís held up very well. I also use a long piece of felt Weather stripping and I put that around the larger out felt seal to put tension on it, and I use a paper clip to hold everything together and Iíve have no issues with that either. John suggested I glue the smaller felt strip onto the outer felt seal but I didnít want to put glue onto the new outer felt seal, but I want to make it easier to put back together when I disassemble my Maytag DG306 for cleaning and piling of the bearings and such.

Post# 1058550 , Reply# 43   1/23/2020 at 18:08 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Gas MT HOH Dryer Reasembly

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Hi Robert, no you only need the white spacer in front of the blower wheel, it was not in your earlier picture and you were asking about washers so I thought you may not have it.

You can either use Hi-temp glue or the stuff you were talking about to secure the seal to the metal shroud.

John L.


Post# 1059592 , Reply# 44   2/4/2020 at 15:33 by fanofjesus (Kansas)        

Working on the felt now. How tight should the felt be around the drum?

Post# 1059615 , Reply# 45   2/4/2020 at 18:40 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag Gas HOH Dryers

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The felt needs to stay in contact with the drum as it revolves so excess air cannot be pulled in around the felt and instead is pulled from the gas burner area, but it does not need to be very tight.

 

John L.





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