Thread Number: 81866
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Asking permission to join the Maytag Neptune VIP club
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|Post# 1058953   1/27/2020 at 04:05 (1,155 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
YAY! My 3rd Maytag (well, the Samtag is also a Maytag, right?)
Last Night I was having dinner with my husband and then Kevin started texting me frenetically on Whatsapp "Check your facebook NOW!"
It took no longer than a couple of seconds until I almost head a heart attack anda stroke at the same time.
Maytag Neptune stacked, gas, $35.
I was like "Kevin, that's something we don't even think twice. Of course yes, yes, yes!"
He contacted the seller for me and the lady was like "Ok, but you must pick it up like IMMEDIATELY because I'm moving.
Ok, that was kinda weird but anyway.... Kevin was already in bed, he dressed up and went there in the middle of the night to pick up Mrs.'Tag.
1 hour later, Mrs. Tag is unloaded in front of my Six Flags (Kevin has the Washers' Disneyland and as my collection is way smaller and less rare than his, i named it Six Flags).
Still outside, super late night and we didnd't want to make noises, we just plugged it and tested the spin...
Lucky me! Max spin speed and silently purring like a kitten.
I don't need to say I woke up super early, desperate to organize Six Flags to make another machine fit in there (the very last one because now I literally don't have a single inch left)
Well... Everything done, Mrs tag properly installed (I forgot to mentioned it looks immaculate outside) it's time to finally try it.
First load, empty.
Pre wash drained like somebody took a whole box of TurboLax. Nasty, i mean REALLY nasty. I mean, the dirtiest washer I've ever seen. I mean, it was like somebody ate a party size bag of Doritos, didn't chew completely and then threw up.
Not to mention that AWFUL "Ensueño" fabric softener smell... OMG. How can somebody dare to use that thing? It should be called "Nightmare", not "dream" in Spanish.
Main wash filled... I noticed the water level is kinda lower during the main part of the wash and then (probably near 5 minutes before drain it raises the water level, right?
Wel... Nope... It raised the water level, then the fill valve noise changed, it sounded like it was flushing the bleach dispenser. As I have no experience with Maytags, for a second I thought it was normal until the washer started draining (and still flushing). OM, "MAYBE" something is wrong, but let's see what happens.
It spun... WOW, it has a spray rinse YAY. (Kinda strange, a spray rinse that starts in the middle of the wash and never stops...... anyway)
It filled, but then i realized the solenoid didn't stop flushing (probably the bleach dispenser?) Ok, it's time to do something more serious... I closed the tap. and I could hear the solenoid closing.
Ok, rinses went fine. (except for the nasty vomit every time it drained.)
Kevin arrived for dinner YAY. I started Mrs.'Tag again and went upstairs to eat. this time with a generous dose of Cascade Fryer Boil out and freaking hot water (Water heater set to maximum)
We're eating and then I heard a water noise, went back to Six Flags and found Mrs. 'Tag almost drowning. Laundry room flooded. I just ran, stopped the washer and closed the tap. then I went upstairs to give the news to everybody.
I forgot the door unlocks after 2 minutes. and the door was holding a tub literally full of water. ooops....
Ok guys, life vests required beyond this point.
Ok, I have a Neptune
The washer is ok, except for the fill valve that is obviously defective. (everything else works great)
Time to try the dryer!
When I tried it this afternoon, it was doing great. silent and hot as hell.
At night... NOTHING!
I can see the ignitor glowing, but no flame at all.
All that said, It's time for me to ask Martin (Yogitunes) if I can be accepted to the Ultra Premium and secret Maytag Neptune VIP Club (AFAIK it's easier to become a Freemason than being accepted to the Neptune club).
And being accepted or not, can ANYBODY, please give me some help? Don't forget the very first time I put my hands on a gas dryer was 3 years ago here in the USA. Until then, I had only electric ones.
|Post# 1058954 , Reply# 1   1/27/2020 at 04:06 (1,155 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
and before I forget..... model number MLG2000AWW
|Post# 1058960 , Reply# 2   1/27/2020 at 06:49 (1,155 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )  || |
If the ignitor is cycling but not lighting try the gas coils first.
|Post# 1058994 , Reply# 3   1/27/2020 at 14:27 (1,155 days old) by Washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)  || |
But do we like Maytag Neptunes? My ex-wife had one and had nothing but problems with her Neptune washer...leaks, wouldn’t spin, etc. Must have been approx late ‘90s vintage. Yet she was bound and determined to hang onto it and its matching dryer. At the time, (2003), she didn’t like my ‘76 Frigidaire 1-18 because it made too much noise. After her hardwood floors were ruined by the Neptune washer, she eventually listened to me and ditched the Neptunes and bought a BOL Kenmore top-loader with matching dryer and was very happy. And do we really like front-loaders? Okay, it’s time for me to duck and run...
|Post# 1059009 , Reply# 4   1/27/2020 at 17:55 (1,155 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)  || |
SamTag....more of the Norge design, with a Maytag label slapped on.....
"if it doesn't say AMANA, its not a Radarange underneath"...
just like todays Maytag(sheep) in a Whirlpool(wolf) body.....
one of these things is not the same, one of these things doesn't belong....
but otherwise, Welcome to the World of a True Neptune SuperStack.....and the reason it was for 35.00, and had to go immediately!....but nothing that can't be fixed....
lets see, should there be a minimum of Neptunes to hold the title of having a FLEET!
as for the dryer, yeah, I would check the solenoids......
you do know that with this unit, the dryer can come off to service the washer...
|Post# 1059012 , Reply# 5   1/27/2020 at 18:13 (1,155 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)  || |
FLEET as in enema?
|Post# 1059019 , Reply# 6   1/27/2020 at 19:46 (1,155 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)  || |
|Post# 1059029 , Reply# 7   1/27/2020 at 22:30 (1,155 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
@Washerlover: But do we like ex-wives? My Husband owns a Maytag Neptune NAH5500 and it failed ONCE in 22 years of service. Bad inlet valve (I replaced it, of course) and my Father-in-law was kinda happy with the results.
Only now (again, after 22 years), the bearings went bad and I'm procrastinating to replace them (But I'll have to do before my father-in-law ends up rushing to Sears and buying a BOL Kenmore or worse, a new Frigidaire.
And it does a VERY decent job.
Yes, I know the Samtag doesn't count as a Maytag, even being the TOL version. that's why I didn't ask to join the Super Ultra Mega VIP Neptune Club.
But now I have a SuperStack (And there's a 5500 in the family, as mentioned above)
Yep, I know the dryer can be removed but I don't think it will be needed. I've found some information about a fill valve replacement surgery through the washer back door. Anyway, the boot seems a little bit off center and there's a tiny leak (which I can quickly imagine the dispenser hose is clogged) so MAYBE i can consider an open chest surgery.
The dryer is REALLY opinionated... this morning it decided to work (for only one cycle)
The valve also decided to work 100% ok for 2 cycles, on the third cycle it started to be a stubborn bad boy again.
I'm still impressed how silent it is spinning. I couldn't hear anything more than the pump and I couldn't see or feel it vibrating, but i saw the water coming out and hear that muffled jet engine noise when the final spin was almost done. No rattling, NOTHING ELSE! It actually shocked me because I would never expect that from a 22 year-old washer.
The end of cycle signal is kinda ridiculous. It sounded like there was a cricket in the control panel. I had a Casio G-shock watch in the 90's that beeps much louder than that.
By the Way... Super Kevin came to the rescue! He surprised me this morning saying he was ready to order the farts that Mrs.'Tag needs. He did all the online research for me and already ordered the parts for me (of course I'll pay for them), but it was really nice of him. It saved me some work.
I'm still thinking if i should replace that boot or not. It's REALLY stained (well, now it's much better) but I'm not sure if so many years off center didn't cause permanent wrinkles to it. (And wrinkles scare me to death, specially this week that I found a brand new wrinkle on my face).
Pictures coming tonight after I finish organizing the laundry room.
|Post# 1059040 , Reply# 8   1/28/2020 at 07:18 (1,154 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)  || |
These are very serviceable machines with the emphasis on the word SERVICE.
We have lots of customers that still have these machines and they generate a lot of service money.
To replace the inlet valve it is best to remove the dryer, removing the dryer will also make it easier to replace the washers door boot.
Overall these are pretty decent machines and MT sold so many of them that there are still lots of parts out there. The other week at one of the places I go used appliance shopping there were three of these stacks there, one gas two electric, two of them had bad bearings.
I left them there as these are too old to sell any longer because anything we sell to customers we expect to remain serviceable for around 10 years minimum.
Thomas let me know if you need any good used parts.
|Post# 1059053 , Reply# 9   1/28/2020 at 13:05 (1,154 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
John, thank you!
Well, The manual shows a grate on the bleach dispenser (not sure if LFS dispenser also) and mine has none.
I'm also looking for a boot (It will save me tons of bleach soaking).
As the cabinet in mine is on the extent of the word "perfect", I want to make the rest of it as perfect as possible.
John, actually, I'd love If i could have you here for a few days because I want to save the Ultramate. Having you here, of course I'd service all the machines (some repairs and preventive)
Now I can say Six Flags is complete (because i have no room even for a clothespin).
I can, eventually, consider 3 other 24 inch washers, but not now and let go The Laundry Alternative SuperPop, The Laundry Alternative Megawash (Prototype), and The Laundry Alternative Patriot (prototype). One of them can be 27", but then I'll have to get rid of one (out of two) The Laundry Alternative Silk Lux.
But of course, I'll have to wait and always leave some room because every once in a while a new prototype comes.
Now the background info:
Frigidaire Stack: Replace the whole wash system (donor washer is at Kevin's Disneyland). We're both procrastinating because we know it's a PITA to work on those machines.
SQ Ultra-Mate: Transmission leaking oil I stopped using the washer. Dryer is OK, but eventually replace the drum rollers (prevention)
Magic Chef: Every once in a while the bearing makes a light noise (prevention but I know the bearing is slowly starting to die).
Thin Twin: Sometimes it doesn't iddle for draining.
SQ Marathon washer: Replace belt (and other preventive maintenance)
LG washer-dryer: It starts filling with water in the middle of the drying.
Samtag: Bearing replacement needed since 3 years ago.
SQ Marathon dryer: That darn thing is noisy as hell (replace drum rollers)
Maytag (Mrs.'Tag). Kevin ordered the fill valve and the coils. We'll repair that ASAP. Door boot is annoying me (OCD) and I'm not exactly sure if I'll replace it or not (I'll know only after I take it apart).
Other stupid thing I'm procrastinating as hell is take everything out of Six Flags, clean the walls and wash the floor (behind and under the machines it's nasty), then reinstall everything, replace all Y-connectors because all of mine are those that have a valve that not only restricts the flow but also they break because they can't resist hot water (prevention, thank God only one broke in 3 years and I was in front of the main valve).
I promised pictures, they're coming today.
|Post# 1059055 , Reply# 10   1/28/2020 at 13:10 (1,154 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
I forgot to mention.... World Washer... replace bearings. (And as a prevention also replace the transmission)
I'm also bringing a dual action or a 8-vane agitator from Brazil. They're both way better than the 4-vane agitator.
By the way, are those transmissions still available here? Otherwise I can bring from Brazil (They're like $25 there, the whole kit with brake, spin clutch and bearings)
|Post# 1059057 , Reply# 11   1/28/2020 at 13:57 (1,154 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)  || |
This is the “Samtag” (as in Samsung-Maytag) Thomas was referring to, not even close to any Norge design!
The only thing I like about it is I was able to easily adjust the water level up not long after I acquired it, so it now comes nearly up to the tub opening.
Clarification part 2: I contacted the seller of the Neptune stack at nearly 9 pm. As Thomas mentioned, she was insistent that I pick it up THAT night, rather than first thing in the morning. Rather odd I thought, as I was getting tired etc. plus it was a 40 minute drive away. Regardless, as she was so insistent, I got my truck ready and headed off. So here I am at 10 PM in this woman’s garage disconnecting the unit and wheeling it to my truck. I headed over to Thomas’s place to drop it off. Got home about 11:30 pm.
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|Post# 1059097 , Reply# 12   1/29/2020 at 02:21 (1,153 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
Mrs.'Tag and her roommates.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Six Flags.
I'm sorry the room is still a bit messy and dirty.
|Post# 1059284 , Reply# 13   1/31/2020 at 11:30 (1,151 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
Yesterday Dr. Kevin and I performed a Fill valve and dryer coils transplant surgery.
Patient is doing great and it's already fully recovered from the surgery.
Mrs.'Tag washed her first real load last night, a whole load of white towels.
Now the only thing left is a tiny leak on the front left. Probably today Mrs. 'Tag will undergo some exams. I can imagine it's the Bleach dispenser clogged.
(Note that BOTH dispensers had fabric softener residue.
One thing I didn't like very much: It dispenses the Fabric softener on the THIRD rinse, no matter what. If I select extra rinse, it will rinse once more AFTER the fabric softener is dispensed.
|Post# 1059991 , Reply# 14   2/8/2020 at 17:03 (1,143 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
Can anybody tell me when my Neptune was made?
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|Post# 1059999 , Reply# 15   2/8/2020 at 19:00 (1,143 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)  || |
CLICK HERE TO GO TO DADoES's LINK
|Post# 1097351 , Reply# 16   11/17/2020 at 01:31 (860 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
Mrs. Big'tag (superstack) has bad bearings and I also need that silly plastic grate that goes in the dispenser (I have the syphon)
Mrs. Old Lady'Tag (E2LP) needs a new goose neck
Mrs. Sam'Tag is desperate for new bearings since 2017 (or 2018?)
Mrs. Mini'Tag (A50) needs a new belt.. I replaced the belt but it falls sometimes.
Mrs. The Other'Tag (MAH7500) needs a door lock
Oh, and I'm still desperate to find a washer to call it Mrs. Weird'Tag (Neptune TL) and I want it with the LCD display.
Yeah, I know it's not the best washer in the world, but I want it anyway because it's... ... ... exotic.
|Post# 1097353 , Reply# 17   11/17/2020 at 05:08 (860 days old) by Lorainfurniture (Cleveland )  || |
I have bearings but no seals atm. I probably have the grate and the lock perhaps too
|Post# 1097567 , Reply# 18   11/18/2020 at 22:17 (859 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)  || |
How does it sound when tumbling/washing/rinsing on the cotton/sturdy (normal) cycle?
|Post# 1097575 , Reply# 19   11/19/2020 at 01:31 (858 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)  || |
Well, it sounds like... hummm, how can I explain that? Err.. ah... humm... well... it sounds like a Neptune washer.
Faint beep whe. You press the start button.
Slosh, slosh, slosh, slosh (tumbling)
Slosh, slosh, slosh (much louder and faster) together with shhhhhhhh when it's rinsing the tub before the final drain
Trruuuummmm (drain pump)
Vruuummmmmm (when spinning) also some nhec nhec,neck (squeaking) because it's not as young anymore.
and as expected because of the bad bearings.... roaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrr during the spins
|Post# 1115464 , Reply# 20   4/24/2021 at 12:05 (702 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)  || |
Thanks for the sound description.
|Post# 1115491 , Reply# 21   4/24/2021 at 17:56 (702 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)  || |
my '98 3000(using the early "switched reluctance" motor) makes a really cool "UFO liftoff" sound during the spin runup :) the spacecraft in the movie ET makes a similar sound as it lifts off.